My sister's wedding issues

MMM - reread daisax's post. Take it to heart. Have the wedding you want, but being able to admit you made a mistake will give you a lot of mileage, here.
 
they will be involved, they can go to the ceremony just not the reception. My brother is getting married in May, they have his reception to look forward to.


Are they invited to your brother's wedding or are you just assuming? And who will be watching the kids while your sister is at your reception?

Michelle :flower3:
 
That's really funny what someone wrote about alcohol ruining weddings more than children. We attended a really swanky. expensive wedding once and there were some really drunk people in their 20's, even the wedding party and the groom ( the bride was almost holding him up). On the way out, there was a girl laying on a bench in the lobby passed out. My 5 yr. old said " mommy that girl is really tired and fell asleep" My kids have better manners than that.
Sorry to go off topic, but having 2 or 3 kids there would be the least of my worries.
 
FWIW, I have to agree with AndyB. What is it with brides? All too often, they think that everyone else's life has to adjust or stop just because they are getting married. They are like 2 year olds having temper tantrums. "It's my wedding and if you don't do what I want, I'm throwing a hissy fit." Maybe it's just me, but I think it's a very selfish way of thinking.
No, it's not just you. I think that brides spend way too much time worrying about what might ruin their "perfect day". The thing is ... that "perfect day" should be the start of many "perfect days" and not the penultimate "perfect day". I was married 17 years ago and I know that my wedding day (as nice as it was) is just a blip compared to the many other days that have meant more to me.

FWIW, I started with a "no kids" policy because none of my friends had kids and our siblings didn't have kids. When my DH's cousin asked if her young daughters could attend and I changed my mind. The kids had a blast and didn't ruin a thing. Then again, my wedding was rather small and intimate and in no way "trendee".

I think the biggest issue here is that the OP's family has a tradition of inviting children to weddings and making them a family celebration. It's one thing when everyone has adult-only weddings (like in daisax's neck of the woods) and quite another when the tradition is where the whole family is included. The OP is bucking the trend (please forgive the pun) by insisting that her wedding exclude the kids ... it kinda makes me wonder exactly who, to borrow Camicar's term, is the "special snowflake" in this situation.
 

they will be involved, they can go to the ceremony just not the reception. .

You have every right to have your wedding and reception exactly the way you and your fiance want it. Your sister may well just prefer to pack up her children after the ceremony (because really, the wedding is the important event of the day...not the party) and travel 2.5 hours back home. As a parent, that is her choice to make.

Just remember that while she is your sister, she is their mother. She gave birth to THEM...somebody else gave birth to you.
 
This type of discussion always make me think that people (and to be honest it's normally brides) seem too obsessed about having such a perfect occasion that they miss what the meaning of the day is, to join in marriage to another person after that it's all window dressing.

I too would rather spend time with my Children than not.

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Sorry but the day is not about only the bride. It is the joining of two families. Not Bride on Parade day. I have to be honest that I wouldn't even look for a babysitter if it was my sister. I would not go. If it was a friend or other relative then no problem, but my sibling no way. Sorry but I would be very hurt and insulted.[/QUOTE]

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Honestly, I think you excluding your nieces/nephews is awful. I have NEVER been to a adults only wedding. What's the point? Marriage is about joining two families. Are the kids not just as much a part as the adults?

Kids LOVE weddings. Dancing, staying up late, good food.

We had a very formal wedding/reception and not a single child "ruined" it. I wouldn't hesistate to bring my kids to a wedding. If I was told they couldn't go - I wouldn't go.

Take the focus off YOU and the PARTY and put the focus where it belongs. Not on the dress, the cocktails, the flowers. On the FAMILY.
 
I do not want anyone to have to worry about taking care of kids and not paying attention to the party.

I did not tell my sister my plans because she has three kids and I knew she would get upset.

Did you somehow think that she would be *less* upset when she got the invitation? Less upset when she showed up with them and they were turned away?

My husband has gotten in trouble all his life b/c he delays upsetting people. It's really the most ridiculous thing. He got a bad grade in school? He'd lie, and wait the 2 weeks for grades to come in and HOPE his parents would'nt look. Got in trouble. He forgets to do something he was supposed to do for our family? His first instinct is to wait, just in case something happens in between then and my finding out and I'm not upset. Doesn't work.

When were you thinking she would be *less* upset about this?

As for worrying about kids...once you are a parent you will always be a parent. Sure, the kids might not be right there, but they are going to be talking about the kids, showing pictures to family members they haven't seen in a while, going away to call the sitters, worrying that everything is OK at home, etc. There's no switch that parents flip to just forget they have children somewhere. You have unrealistic expectations of what your guests are going to do.

As for paying attention to the party, it's been covered here, but here's another way to look at it.

I have a very fancy wedding album. We spent the bulk of our wedding money on our photog, and the album is big and lovely. When there's a picture of us, you can see people behind us. Were those people staring intently at us? Well, other than during our first dance, NO. Absolutely not. YOu can see them chatting with their spouses or other guests, old friends, relatives. Other than the dance and the toasts, they aren't paying attention to us, they are having their own fun. And that's the point.

Don't kid yourself and think that everyone is going to be staring at you the whole night. So really, it doesn't matter who they are paying attention to, whether they are wrangling a kid or calling a sitter or talking about college with someone who hasn't seen them since elementary school.

The kids will be 11 and 7 at the time of the wedding. She also has a 2 year old. They do not have a lot of money so they do not have regular sitters. They only go out when grandparents come to see the girls. The location is two and a half hours from her house, so I guess it is pretty far away. I just do not have any other kids in the family except for her three so if I hired a sitter it would just be for those three.

Do you consider the kids to be your relatives? Nieces and nephews? Or are they so separate that they are your sister's children? No matter what, they ARE your relatives; it's not just your sister that is your relative.

Since you know your sister doesn't have a usual sitter and you know she doesn't have any extra money, let's talk it through, OK?

Let's say there's a full year until your wedding. So she has to first FIND a sitter who is willing to watch such a varied group of ages. Then FIND a sitter who is willing to watch them for the bulk of the day. A year from now. Now she has to see how the very few people who qualify deal with her kids. So she needs to invite the sitters over to meet the kids. If the sitter(s) passes that, then she has to *create* events for her and your BIL to go to, and FIND money to pay the sitter, for the practice events.

And even if she can find enough money to pay for enough sitting sessions to let everyone feel comfy....now she has to hope against all hope that this sitter is going to be available and there for your wedding!

Can you see how something that SEEMS so simple and easy, when you're not doing it, is actually quite an expensive and time-consuming proposition? I wouldn't be able to do it, and I only have one kid. We do not go out, together, without him except for every blue moon...it's actually been only ONCE, and he's almost 5. The one paid sitter we had was while we were moving, and it was across the street so we were in and out as we walked our stuff over. The solo sitting experience was with MIL, and it was only 2 months ago. It would take ages for us to find someone, and scads of money to let them get to know each other long enough for both to feel comfy enough to deal with a 10 hour event.


Not paying attention to the party - Why is there a need to pay attention to the party. Your there their there, this is going on in one corner, when that is going on in another corner. Aunt Bea and Uncle Jo are stuffing themselves with cake, while your BFF is hitting on your DH's hot single co-worker who came solo. Where is any one "paying attention" to the party.

Loved that. :) That's what reminded me of my wedding pictures. I'm so glad people had fun, and SO glad people didn't pay too much attention to me. My brother re-connected with the ONLY member of our father's family that he will deal with, and the photog got a picture of them talking, and it's absolutely precious to me. I'm so glad they didn't waste their time watching us, and had a chance to talk.


...I want people to be able to enjoy themselves and not have to worry about watching kids. There have been lots of weddings in the family lately and kids have always been invited and people had to be parents and not have as much fun.

It might have been YOUR perception that they didn't have fun, but it most likely wasn't theirs. When you become a parent, you sign on to a whole different kind of fun. One of the benefits of getting married when older (I was 33) is that you have had it up to HERE with adults-only fun. I was ready for family fun! I just had a quick solo trip to DLR (well, part of a bigger ladies only trip) and hubby and son had most excellent fun at home. I will tell you...NONE of the women there with kids at home were 100% focused 100% of the time on themselves. We all had moments of missing our kids, or grandkids even. We thought about them, talked about them, bought gifts for them. I was a parent even though I was 2 states away. It doesn't matter where the kids are.

And the people who have good care and WANT to have a good time without wrangling kids? They will leave them at home! I tell you, we invited, by name, every single kid. 4 showed up. And 2 of them were in the wedding party. All the others had parents to watch the grandkids, or good sitters, etc, and wanted to party without the wrangling. Even though I, The Bride (LOL), wanted it to be otherwise. As it was I have excellent pictures of my then 9 year old half-sis (jr b'maid) and our 8 year old ring-bearer dancing and twirling on the dance floor. My 7 month old cousin is in a series of wonderful pictures as she sat on the edge of the dance floor or maybe on the grass (outdoors wedding and reception), and she's so cute. I danced with a little year old, her diapered-bottom right on my silk wedding gown, and those pictures are wonderful, as are the memories. I'm so thankful their parents brought them. They wanted their kids there (and they were invited). Every other parent did not. The parents of the ring bearer have another son, but they left him with grandparents!


You will not be featured in In Style magazine.

Contrary to what you seem to believe, people actually LIKE spending time with their own kids. Myself included.

Keep In Style away from weddings...they were the absolute curse for marriages while I was planning. Almost every cover-bride with wedding featured inside was divorced inside 1 year. Freaky.

I enjoy spending time with my son, too. :goodvibes


What is it with brides? All too often, they think that everyone else's life has to adjust or stop just because they are getting married. They are like 2 year olds having temper tantrums. "It's my wedding and if you don't do what I want, I'm throwing a hissy fit." Maybe it's just me, but I think it's a very selfish way of thinking.

I am sure her sister could find somebody to babysit if she really wanted to be there for her sister. It is amazing how many people will not attend an event because their children are not invited.

FWIW, we didn't experience this sort of guest, but there are MANY weddings with incredibly rude, tantrumy guests.

I wouldn't have an easy time finding someone to watch DS for half a day, not even with a year. See my first bit of answer.
 
they will be involved, they can go to the ceremony just not the reception. My brother is getting married in May, they have his reception to look forward to.

So what is the game plan? What do you expect your sister and the kids to do? Do you even care? So you expect your sister to go 2 1/2 hours away and attend just your ceremony but not your reception? That is a lot to ask.

My DBro just got engaged and I asked right away if my kids were going to be invited bc I know my kids (esp my oldest) would be disappointed NOT to go to their uncle's wedding, then have been to several family weddings as they are currently the only kids, so everyone likes to include them. I aslo included all my cousins who were kids at my wedding. I have also gotten a lot of compliments of how well behaved my kids are at this events.

But I never assumed they are invited to weddings bc people are entitled to the wedding they want but they also need to understand that people dont always have babysitters at their disposal to use for these events. I would not trust my kids with strangers.
 
sister is a bridesmaid, so she should be at reception

You really are just digging yourself in deeper. What exactly do you expect your sister to do with her children, who are now priviledged enough to be allowed to come to your wedding, but have to make themselves scarce for the reception?

You want your sister to be a bridesmaid (and I assume pay all of those related expenses...shoes, dress, hair, etc) AND pay for a sitter for what is going to amount to at least 10 hours if she doesn't bring them...or worry about finding and paying some stranger to look after them? You admitted money is tight for her family and you still think she is going to agree to that and have FUN at your trendy party????

You need to understand that once you become a parent you have a whole different set of priorities. Hate to break it to you, but your "big day" is turning into your sister's "big hassle".
 
sister is a bridesmaid, so she should be at reception

I am sorry and I am not trying to be a butt here but I think you are wrong. Yes, you are excited about your wedding, and yes, you can have any type of party you want. However- not everyone is going to be as excited for your wedding. None of your guests are going to look at it as the event of the year. I know that is hard to hear but that is true. I honestly think you are wrong not only in how you handled it but with the whole situation. Sorry but that is my opinion.
 
Every time this topic comes up, I continue to be mystified by the number of people who do not have at least ONE person they can count on to watch their child(ren) for 24 hours just as a favor. I certainly hope they could come up with one in an emergency!

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Every time this topic comes up, I continue to be mystified by the number of people who do not have at least ONE person they can count on to watch their child(ren) for 24 hours just as a favor. I certainly hope they could come up with one in an emergency!

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I think the problem here is their one person will also be attending the wedding.
 
sister is a bridesmaid, so she should be at reception

... and probably should be at a rehearsal and rehearsal dinner, too, which I assume no children will be invited to. You really are digging yourself in deeper, and need to do some damage control right away.
 
I think the problem here is their one person will also be attending the wedding.

I think people should have more than one - I am fortunate to have many. If my parents weren't available, I certainly have enough friends here that would take my kids for me, and I would be comfortable asking my kids' friends' moms if they could watch them for me, maybe even sleepover (not the 2 year old - I'd ask a friend for that). Actually, my life would be a little lonely if I didn't have friends I could count on, a social network.
 
Every time this topic comes up, I continue to be mystified by the number of people who do not have at least ONE person they can count on to watch their child(ren) for 24 hours just as a favor. I certainly hope they could come up with one in an emergency!

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Favor and emegencies are two different things. I dont ask friends for favors that are lengthy in the time they are babysitting. I do have friends that would be there for me in a heartbeat if I have an emergency but I am not going to abuse that friendship to ask for a wedding.

My family helps with lengthy babysitting favors. I am lucky that my ILs can usually help with enough notice for my side of the family events and my mom is great for DH's side.
 


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