Losing faith in humanity

[Olivejuicy]

The concentration of people, different kinds of people from all walks of life, is bound to create some friction. I have to say that one person acting like a jerk our of hundreds of thousands that one encounters at WDW should not make one lose faith in humanity. It should make one feel better about humanity, that such a small percentage are jerks.

It doesn't excuse that person being a jerk, but if you view it in a more Pollyanna way, you're apt to have a better time.

 

[paintnolish]

The concentration of people, different kinds of people from all walks of life, is bound to create some friction. I have to say that one person acting like a jerk our of hundreds of thousands that one encounters at WDW should not make one lose faith in humanity. It should make one feel better about humanity, that such a small percentage are jerks.

After nine days there, I can honestly say I encountered only one intentionally rude person. The vast majority of people I encountered were friendly, helpful, and polite. Every single time I needed a seat while carrying or wearing my baby in a baby carrier, one was offered to me immediately. Strangers helped my daughter lift our stroller onto the bus, helped hold it on the bus, and helped take it off the bus. Tons of people talked to the baby, and one woman even offered to hold him while I washed my hands in the restroom. I didn't take her up on it!
I did accidentally ram people with the stroller two times, but when you (walking in front of the stroller) stop abruptly, that's bound to happen. I sincerely apologized both times. Accidents happen!

 

[kaligal]

I have been to WDW many, many times and we usually go in late August and at the busiest time of the year (Christmas/New Years). I have only been intentionally pushed by anyone once and that was by an adult at DL. There are a lot of stories and anecdotes but just don't think the problem of pushing, shoving, physical guests is all that rampant . I do think that if a CM sees that kind of behavior that person should be ejected but I don't see where a sign will make a bit of difference to a person who will get physical with someone else.

Rampant? No.

Happening? You bet.

You may not be aware of it, but Disney is. And their stance is, " We don't have the authority. We cannot control guest behavior."

There is almost no trouble with line jumping in the parks with the signs. People know where they can get away with that crap and where they can't.

 

[Miz Diz]

Did he have an East coast accent?

Maybe he was from missouri.

 

[mom2rtk]

I'm not sure Disney has no authority. I think they just prefer not to deal with it. But the problem with that is that over time, it encourages more of said behavior. That person who cut in line at the bakery had a successful outcome (got what he wanted with no wait and no repercussions) so he'll do it again. And again. And perhaps a few people in line who saw it happen will decide to try it at some point when they have hungry kids and the line is long.

No, I don't want Disney to turn into 6 Flags. But if 6 Flags has the "authority", then I'm sure Disney does too.

 

[smw]

These might help restore some faith in humanity


http://www.buzzfeed.com/expresident/pictures-that-will-restore-your-faith-in-humanity

ha! i was totally going to post that.

 

[siugoalie78]

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[Mad Hattered]

Maybe he was from missouri.

Hey now!! Don't make me get all East Coast on ya!!

 

[Miz Diz]

Hey now!! Don't make me get all East Coast on ya!!

 

[Logic]

I'm just wondering, is there a number to call security or do you just tell the nearest cast member?

 

[chartle]

I'm not sure Disney has no authority. I think they just prefer not to deal with it. But the problem with that is that over time, it encourages more of said behavior. That person who cut in line at the bakery had a successful outcome (got what he wanted with no wait and no repercussions) so he'll do it again. And again. And perhaps a few people in line who saw it happen will decide to try it at some point when they have hungry kids and the line is long.

No, I don't want Disney to turn into 6 Flags. But if 6 Flags has the "authority", then I'm sure Disney does too.

I'm just wondering, is there a number to call security or do you just tell the nearest cast member?

Even if you did call or get a CM, the post above yours would be the most likely outcome.

 

[mefordis]

If one line jumper at a bakery has made you this shocked and miserable then I'd say you must be used to being treated pretty well by your fellow man on a regular basis.

Please don't let these small annoyances get to you. It just isn't worth it. Disney doesn't let it get to them!

 

[maxiesmom]

I have been to WDW many, many times and we usually go in late August and at the busiest time of the year (Christmas/New Years). I have only been intentionally pushed by anyone once and that was by an adult at DL. There are a lot of stories and anecdotes but just don't think the problem of pushing, shoving, physical guests is all that rampant . I do think that if a CM sees that kind of behavior that person should be ejected but I don't see where a sign will make a bit of difference to a person who will get physical with someone else.

I agree with you. I've been to WDW over the 4th of July, and twice during Spring Break. I can't remember ever being shoved, and can only remember twice someone line cutting. Once was a couple of young girls at Splash Mountain, and once was a lady by the firetruck in the Magic Kingdom. I don't think cutting happens as much as people assume it does.

 

[kaligal]

I'm just wondering, is there a number to call security or do you just tell the nearest cast member?

Tell the nearest CM.

But you might as well tell a rock, for all the good it will do you.

Disney doesn't care if people cut. They don't care if people are pushing and shoving their way through lines. They support that behavior.

But you can tell them.

 

[maxiesmom]

This is kind of off topic, but with everyone bemoaning the state of humanity, I wanted to share something good with you.

I have a co-worker who recently lost everything in a fire. House is gone, as was almost everything they had. Her daughter and her 2 grandchildren live with her, but everyone got out ok. We took up a collection for her at work, to help her get by, but that isn't what is so great.

What is awesome is that she has had total strangers handing her money! People she doesn't know at all have been giving her gift cards and cash! One of our customers over-heard us discussing what had happened, and decided she needed to give too. When she was out shopping for basics for the kids, another customer over-heard what was going on and gave her $100, saying she knew who needed it more. It is so awesome that there are people out there like that!

People are not the heartless scumbags we so often make them out to be. There are many decent, caring people out there!

 

[TDC Nala]

In eleven years of regular (multiple visits per year) visits to WDW I have seen a good bit of line cutting (not LOTS of it, but a number of instances), been shoved aside with regularity, and about three or four times had a stroller rammed into the back of my foot hard enough to break the skin (walking in crowds).

 

[cattylove2001]

Currently at DW, have not lost faith however my DS11 and I have encountered rude people, people without a clue, and a CM's who did there very best to control unruly people.
- First at MK, at Stitch ride a lady from Central or South America (Spanish Speaking) yelled at me to move through the turnstile while I was taking a picture. Seriously, I was only able to move two steps after the turnstile (I guess it was THAT serious that it sent her over the edge). Then her adult daughter and her infant tried to get in line but the CM told her the infant couldn't go inside and all hell broke loose! She started screaming at the top of her lungs and verbally abusing the CM in Spanish. She and the mother who screamed at me called him an arrogant stupid #$#$ and other unmentionables. They complained about how much money they spent and how they should be treated like royalty and it went on and on and on.. Apparently the CM was from their country too and it seemed they thought he was thinking too highly of himself. I speak and understand Spanish btw (MA). Everyone looked on in horror and disbelief. I just thought to myself, "seriously?" Didn't get into an altercation with this lady because it was obvious to me she was mad about something else. Just laughed and shook my head.
- Later when we went on HM, the "infamous" Brazilian Mega Tour group of young adults were in full effect and tried to push their way to the front of the line. One of them pushed my DS and boy did they pick the wrong feisty LA Woman to mess with. Suddenly I turned into a very IRATE Momma Bear and pushed one of them right back. Needless to say, they were stunned and backed off. Not saying it was the best way to handle the situation but if you mess with my cub the claws are coming OUT!
- Then there are people who don't have a clue. A family was peed off at AK EE because there was a man just trying to join their family (not cutting). Or maybe I just have a higher tolerance?
- Lastly, at TL when the rope drops it teases you to go to another rope drop section LOL. The CM kept good order and discipline by telling people to form a line behind the first person and so on. Loved it! There was people attempting to go to front and she was pretty militant about about it!

 

[mgoblue21]

No kids yet, but I'd be with everyone if my kid got pushed/trampled.

Otherwise I'm somewhat passive (but effective) at not letting people cut in front of me. I make sure that they cannot just "sneak" past, and usually ends up working.

I sometimes say something in these situations, I just do a mental calculation if it's worth it or not. If it's something I'd be mad at myself all day for ignoring then I'll say something. If I can chalk it up to a rude person and move on then I'm less likely to get involved...

I do see a difference between cutting in line and running into/over kids...I'm very defensive of my family in that respect, but sometimes it's not worth causing a big stink over a line cutter.

Sometimes causing a scene (even if I'm right) will end up causing me more stress than it'd be to just forget it and look at happier things.

 

[chateau]

I was like you most of my life. I completely understand where you're coming from on this topic. One thing changed in my life (religious) and my outlook changed dramatically, as did how I FEEL!! It's been an amazing transformation. Please don't take me wrong in anything I say here, just give it a try sometime and see how it makes YOU feel, ultimately. I have children and in your scenerio I would've tried to give them this meaning. If that person SO BADLY needs to be ahead in the line, feels entitled somehow, let him go, and have no ill will. There are a lot of people who react to the way the world had treated them, the lot they have been given. I myself was hardened, pessimistic, LOST my sense of PEACE! Since having the outlook of "I don't know this particular person's life, their scars, their hardships, their needs" and trying to be as empathetic as possible, my whole outlook changed DRAMATICALLY!! I REGAINED my sense of peace, I get positive results from people (for instance this man would wonder "what's up with this lady?!?" when instead of being troubled, I greet him with warmth). I know, I know, this may sound like a soap box rant but TRUST ME... I was one MISERABLE person until this change occurred, and since, my life has been the most remarkable thing ever!!

 

[luvmyguyz]

I find it interesting that CMs are enforcing FP times and keeping resort guests from pool-hopping, but they don't stop line cutters? Especially in the situation the OP spoke of, would it really have been so difficult for the CM to simply ignore the jerk and take OP's order instead? I agree that a CM should not be expected to put himself/herself in a dangerous situation, but I can't see how ignoring the rude guy and taking the OP's order would have put the CM in harm's way, or even caused much of a scene. I mean, even if the jerk yells and complains for a few minutes as he's being ignored, I would think he would eventually give up and either go to the back of the line (doubtful) or find another place to get food (more likely.)

I'm in agreement with those who believe in teaching their children to stand up for themselves. I am all for being as nice to people as possible, but if someone is intentionally being rude, I won't be a doormat. Must be the "East Coast" in me, but I assure you, the jerk in the OP's situation would not have been getting any food before me.