line cheaters at Princess Fairytale hall

[ArwenMarie]

Are we sure that this is even considered cutting by the park? I know that at the A&E meet and greet in Epcot, they didn't want everyone to wait together, as someone already mentioned. I would imagine they wouldn't care about Fairytale Hall either, since that is also in a very congested area of the park.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I have no issues with people who are in the line and need to leave and return due to an emergency of any sort as long as they are respectful going and coming.

Great - but that's not the situation described by the OP.

 

[Pesky]

I'm not bothered by it. Before I continue, I will freely confess that I did this at DLR for the 2 hour wait for A&E. I also readily confessed to all around me that while I thought A&E were swell, it was my 2 kids, not me, who would be getting the picture. And multiple folks said they were doing the same. That said, I made sure the kids were with me when we got down to about 5 groups ahead of me. So if you are saving a place in line for a couple of young kids, fine. Saving a place for someone who had to run to the restroom? Fine. For a giant tour group or your family reunion? No.

 

[kittyab]

Not even for a parent to take a child to the bathroom? You know those lines can be 2+ hours long, right?

Hopefully the potty patrol isn't going to make some 5 year old wet themselves, jeez.

I am laughing at the term potty patrol

 

[JanaDee]

As I previously wrote, we are brand newbies to WDW, but this conversation is somewhat disappointing. I thought the whole point of going to WDW was to experience the magic and be around a bunch of happy people, rather than by disgruntled complainers with whom we must deal in "regular" life. I understand the "what's the cutoff for a reasonable number of people joining the person waiting" point, but would posit that the cutoff is probably a nuclear family. In other words, I would happily hold a place for my husband and two children, or join my husband if he was waiting, but I would not dream of holding a place for my husband, our children, my brother and his children, and my sister-in-law with her children. Nor would I blink at anyone holding a place for their partner and children. I might sigh to myself if 10 people joined one in line, but it sure will not ruin my day. I hope those in the parks when we are there have the same idea - it only takes one easily bristled guest to make a whole room of people upset or uncomfortable. I, for one, do not plan on being that guest! You never know what someone else has going on and making a fuss about an extra five minutes in an hour long line seems really over-the-top...even in "regular" life.

After it happens on almost every single line you stand in, come back and let us know how magical you felt about watching people cut in front of you.

 

[tlmadden73]

I don't see a huge problem for it ... but the problem is that things like that can be abused and people will bend the rules.

If a Dad is saving a spot in line for mom and two daughters? Fine .. Dad took the initiative to charge up and wait in line so his family didn't have to .. sorta like getting a fast pass in the old days. To me this is no different than what I did for getting a reservation at Crystal Palace. After a ride, I ran to get reservation for the family for dinner while my wife and son went to the bathroom and just sorta explored a bit. The reservation person told me that as long as my family was there within 5 minutes of my pager buzzing, that we wouldn't lose our table. less than 20 minutes later we got buzzed and they showed up without having to try and entertain a 2-year old while just sitting around.

But if Dad is saving a spot in line for his family, and the grandparents and his brother and their family of 5... ya . no thanks.

Honestly if ONE person in the party could wait in line for things like character greets it would make the park more pleasant for everyone. Just need to have a strict policy about people not showing up on time.

Unrelated --- but it irks me when a family of 8 are huddled around a Fast Pass Kiosk trying to make decisions when it could have been handled by 1 person.

 

[cakebaker]

I'm just curious whether you are a DL regular. I really have not seen anyone successfully hold a place with a blanket at WDW. It's hard enough to hold a spot you are actually standing in. But holding spots with blankets is out of control at DL. People actually put their blankets down hours before the parade or fireworks, then leave it unoccupied to come back to later.

We noticed this on our first trip to DL and were just amazed that it works. Then again, DL visitors seem to have a completely different mindset than WDW guests. The other thing they do- and I LOVED it- was during the fireworks they sit down! They don't put their kids on their shoudlers! It was an amazing sight for a WDW vet to see. And they were quiet during the show--I miss that more than anything!

Of course, it's been a while and things may have changed, but that was the best thing ever- standing there, the show is about to start and everyone just... sat....down....it almost brought tears to my eyes.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Honestly if ONE person in the party could wait in line for things like character greets it would make the park more pleasant for everyone. Just need to have a strict policy about people not showing up on time.

Sure. Defying the laws of physics would make things more pleasant for everyone - except probably the guests who are immediately displaced by those [literal] bodies being able to exist in two places at one time. Or the guests who wait in line for the meet & greet with their entire parties.

 

[OZMom]

We noticed this on our first trip to DL and were just amazed that it works. Then again, DL visitors seem to have a completely different mindset than WDW guests. The other thing they do- and I LOVED it- was during the fireworks they sit down! They don't put their kids on their shoudlers! It was an amazing sight for a WDW vet to see. And they were quiet during the show--I miss that more than anything!

Of course, it's been a while and things may have changed, but that was the best thing ever- standing there, the show is about to start and everyone just... sat....down....it almost brought tears to my eyes.

Being 5ft tall, this sounds fantastic. Can we start this trend at WDW?

 

[cakebaker]

Being 5ft tall, this sounds fantastic. Can we start this trend at WDW?

I don't know if they still do it, but I hope so. I thought the same thing then, why don't people do this at WDW? In front of the castle there's just no reason to stand. Everyone sits, no need to put your kid on your shoulders, we're all happy and we all see the show.

 

[smitch425]

Great - but that's not the situation described by the OP.

Ummm...I know that. I've already voiced my opinion on the original post further up in the thread. Bathroom emergencies became part of this discussion. I was giving my opinion on that particular part of the discussion. No need to be rude.

 

[tooh8ful]

My girls learned as soon as they were potty trained, you go potty before we get in line, because if you have to go while in line, we don't ride. I agree with the pp, I wouldn't have gotten in a 2 hour line when either of my girls were 4, for several reasons.
I'm kind of amazed at all the people (on the boards AND in the parks) who don't think their children should have to wait in lines. It's Disney World, there are lines!

 

[JoshuaShaw]

Ummm...I know that. I've already voiced my opinion on the original post further up in the thread. Bathroom emergencies became part of this discussion. I was giving my opinion on that particular part of the discussion. No need to be rude.

 

[mom2rtk]

We noticed this on our first trip to DL and were just amazed that it works. Then again, DL visitors seem to have a completely different mindset than WDW guests. The other thing they do- and I LOVED it- was during the fireworks they sit down! They don't put their kids on their shoudlers! It was an amazing sight for a WDW vet to see. And they were quiet during the show--I miss that more than anything!

Of course, it's been a while and things may have changed, but that was the best thing ever- standing there, the show is about to start and everyone just... sat....down....it almost brought tears to my eyes.

I remember them actually requiring everyone to stand when we saw the fireworks there in 2010. On our trip in December, they only specified that those in front of the VIP seating area had to sit. No word on what anyone else had to do. Most stood.

And lest I be misunderstood, I think it's rude to put down a blanket and occupy a spot while you are off playing, keeping someone who is ready to occupy that spot from doing so.

 

[cakebaker]

Then why can't he wait at the entrance. What if it was a family of six or ten? Extended cousins and grandparents. Where's the line when it's not ok.
We are the you use the bathroom before you get on line, get on line as a group and if you leave the line you start over or forfeit the ride (had to do that once with dd because she said she didn't have to go to the bathroom but ten minutes into waiting, she did. Left the line met up with our group after they road. She never did that again.)
I have been in lines where there are almost two line those actually waiting and those who are pushing through to get to their group. Dh has refused, politely, to yield way a few times and told the person their group can join them back here.

My grandson had just started potty training a few weeks before our trip last year. He was 2 at the time. Bad timing, I agree, but he started self training and we could hardly say no, don't learn that yet. I don't think he would've quite understood the concept of if you leave the line to go do what we've bragging on you for weeks now- you're going to be punished.

I can assure you, if your husband blocked my daughters way back to me after taking him to the potty, I'd just get a CM and see what they say. Potty breaks have long been an accepted practice for the younger set. I'd be ashamed to raise a fuss with someone who took their toddler to go to the bathroom and just wanted back where they were.

Thankfully people are a lot tougher on the internet than they are in person. Not once have we ever had anyone be anything but polite and easy to deal with as far as potty breaks.

Seriously, relax people. It's just a character meet n greet-so what if someone gets away with something now and then. Who cares....or as they say...Let it go...

 

[cakebaker]

I remember them actually requiring everyone to stand when we saw the fireworks there in 2010. On our trip in December, they only specified that those in front of the VIP seating area had to sit. No word on what anyone else had to do. Most stood.

And lest I be misunderstood, I think it's rude to put down a blanket and occupy a spot while you are off playing, keeping someone who is ready to occupy that spot from doing so.

That's too bad, it was a fun thing. And I agree, the blanket thing is crazy at DL and rude. But it seemed accepted practice there.

 

[Gracie09]

My grandson had just started potty training a few weeks before our trip last year. He was 2 at the time. Bad timing, I agree, but he started self training and we could hardly say no, don't learn that yet. I don't think he would've quite understood the concept of if you leave the line to go do what we've bragging on you for weeks now- you're going to be punished.

I can assure you, if your husband blocked my daughters way back to me after taking him to the potty, I'd just get a CM and see what they say. Potty breaks have long been an accepted practice for the younger set. I'd be ashamed to raise a fuss with someone who took their toddler to go to the bathroom and just wanted back where they were.

Thankfully people are a lot tougher on the internet than they are in person. Not once have we ever had anyone be anything but polite and easy to deal with as far as potty breaks.

Seriously, relax people. It's just a character meet n greet-so what if someone gets away with something now and then. Who cares....or as they say...Let it go...

When your daughters ask you why everyone else gets to go in front of them and are we sure we're on the right line, ask me if you would just stand around and say we just have to wait our turn. Its not one child and parent. Its a dozen or more and then the extended families. Like I said my husband politely declines to move aside. You would be welcome to get a cm and we would simply explain it.
I had a child who potty trained weeks before going on a disney trip. It was just like when she took a long care ride. You go before you get on line. We don't go on hour long lines. Its really quite simple. Just takes planning.

 

[WillAustin]

You are missing the point, it is not for us to judge.

Actually, it is. Whether or not I let someone pass me in line is entirely my decision to make. The circumstances at the time will determine how I make my choice.

 

[piccolopat]

In my view it is really simple - anyone, regardless of age, that attempts to move ahead of others that are on line before they get there is cutting. If a family gets on line together and midway through their young child has to go to the bathroom, one parent can take care of that and then rejoin the rest of their party. Everyone on line behind them already sees them exiting and then re-entering and so I don't think most people would view that as cutting the line. The responsible thing is to have potty breaks and get drinks, etc. before you enter a line so as to minimize any inconvenience to those around you. I also agree with some other posters that expecting a young child to wait on a 2 hour line is probably not the best decision. Personally, I think it is good for kids to learn how to wait for their turn and behave while they are doing so.

 

[OZMom]

My girls learned as soon as they were potty trained, you go potty before we get in line, because if you have to go while in line, we don't ride. I agree with the pp, I wouldn't have gotten in a 2 hour line when either of my girls were 4, for several reasons.
I'm kind of amazed at all the people (on the boards AND in the parks) who don't think their children should have to wait in lines. It's Disney World, there are lines!

The ONLY character my kid wanted to meet was Jack Skellington, we got there an hour and a half before he officially started meeting guests. Guess what? He had a 2 hour line. We asked them if they wanted to wait, they did. We waited and I have never seen my kids be so patient. Not a single whine or complaint.

I didn't need SEVERAL reasons, just one. It made my kids happy.

But you're right, I yield to your superior parenting.

What I don't understand is how in the same comment you criticize parents who let their kids wait in 2 hour lines AND parents who don't think their kids should have to wait.

When your daughters ask you why everyone else gets to go in front of them and are we sure we're on the right line, ask me if you would just stand around and say we just have to wait our turn. Its not one child and parent. Its a dozen or more and then the extended families. Like I said my husband politely declines to move aside. You would be welcome to get a cm and we would simply explain it.
I had a child who potty trained weeks before going on a disney trip. It was just like when she took a long care ride. You go before you get on line. We don't go on hour long lines. Its really quite simple. Just takes planning.

Or you just don't have kids that want to meet hard to meet characters? There is no fast pass for 7 dwarves, Jack Skellington, Santa Clause etc. So how do you propose planning your way out of that? Or do you just tell your kids "no, sorry, you can't meet those characters"? I, personally, couldn't take the heart break on my kid's face if I told them they couldn't meet the ONE character they wanted to meet.

But again, I guess you're just another superior parent.