Land Border Opening?

[NewYKRunner]

Wow, just under 200,000 doses in Ontario alone today, 134k of those are second doses. Nice work

 

[NewYKRunner]

THIS!!!!! This just frustrates the ever living heck out of me. They keep moving the goal posts!!! STOP GOING BACK ON YOUR WORD AND CHANGING THE GOAL POSTS!!!!

Ugh, when did Dr. Tam say that? Makes sense why our new plan states similar for us to fully reopen:

https://www.gov.nt.ca/covid-19/en/emerging-wisely-2021

 

[Sue M]

The official Government of Canada information on "COVID-19: Travel, testing, quarantine and borders" is here: https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid which includes information on the type of test required (there is a list of acceptable test types), timeframe, etc.

I just noticed the alert yesterday that said probably in July fully vax people won’t need test, yay!

 

[Sue M]

We have a mid-August trip planned....supposed to drive across the border and fly from there. I'm the only one in my household fully vaccinated....my husband and one child will have one dose and the other is under 12. I had been feeling so optimistic but today I'm just feeling so unsure we'll get across the border. I work in healthcare and haven't had time off in over a year and a half...these Disney trip plans are the only thing that's been keeping me from completely burning out....at least I had something to look forward to.

We will be fully vaccinated by Tuesday! Yay. Our trip is 1st two weeks of Aug. I booked flights yesterday, because things are looking up, now that we won’t have to Quarantine. Daughter has to go back to work and can’t quarantine 2 weeks!
but in same boat as you. I booked flights, but would rather drive acros, only 3 hrs to Seattle. I’m confused about rules driving across. But flights sure are cheaper, so far. I’m going to wait & see what info comes out. Clear as mud right now. I can change flights, but I’m afraid by the time we have solid info, they’ll go up.

 

[2Lunds]

I just noticed the alert yesterday that said probably in July fully vax people won’t need test, yay!

Where did you see that alert?

 

[Sue M]

Where did you see that alert?

It was on the link Starwind posted. Right on top in yellow

 

[Sue M]

Exemptions for fully vaccinated travellers who are eligible to enter Canada are expected in early July. Current travel restrictions still apply.

this is what is on our Government website. So I think this may mean we won’t have to get Covid test?

 

[Starwind]

Exemptions for fully vaccinated travellers who are eligible to enter Canada are expected in early July. Current travel restrictions still apply.

this is what is on our Government website. So I think this may mean we won’t have to get Covid test?

No that is not what it means.

The public statements from government about the relaxation of restrictions in July for returning travellers who are fully vaccinated has been that they still need to be tested before arrival and after arrival. The relaxation is that they do not have to do the upto 3 days hotel quarantine, insteade they have to self isolate while waiting for the arrival test result and can then onward travel if the test is negative. They will also be able to skip the 14 day quarantine requirement [if the arrival test is negative].

See https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/government-travel-restrictions-border-1.6061398 :

"However, Ottawa announced on Wednesday that all fully vaccinated travellers currently allowed to enter Canada will soon be able to skip the 14-day quarantine requirement, including the mandated hotel stay. Instead, they'll have to show proof of a negative pre-departure COVID-19 test, take another test upon arrival, and self-isolate until that test comes back negative.

The government has not yet set a date for the rule change but says it "hopes" to implement it by early July. "

 

[2Lunds]

Exemptions for fully vaccinated travellers who are eligible to enter Canada are expected in early July. Current travel restrictions still apply.

this is what is on our Government website. So I think this may mean we won’t have to get Covid test?

I watched the announcement. The July "loosening" is only doing away with the hotel quarantine. As it stands now we'll still need a negative test going down, a negative test before coming back, another test upon arrival, and a quarantine at home until those results come back (estimated at 3 days). Eta: I see the previous poster already addressed this, sorry, I'm on mobile.

 

[Starwind]

I watched the announcement. The July "loosening" is only doing away with the hotel quarantine. As it stands now we'll still need a negative test going down, a negative test before coming back, another test upon arrival, and a quarantine at home until those results come back (estimated at 3 days). Eta: I see the previous poster already addressed this, sorry, I'm on mobile.

You added the extra important detail about the test needed going down, too. I haven't seen anything that says the US government will be lifting that requirement yet.

 

[bcwife76]

You added the extra important detail about the test needed going down, too. I haven't seen anything that says the US government will be lifting that requirement yet.

Nope, testing to enter the US by air is supposed to be in place until Dec 31, unless the CDC rescinds it.

 

[2Lunds]

You added the extra important detail about the test needed going down, too. I haven't seen anything that says the US government will be lifting that requirement yet.

I'm willing to bet the US side drops their testing requirements before we do. If all I needed was a PCR test at MCO airport before coming home, I'd go, but paying for all these tests out of pocket is too much. Especially in MB where they're about $500 each.

 

[petunia]

Nope, testing to enter the US by air is supposed to be in place until Dec 31, unless the CDC rescinds it.

Do you know if Canadians drive over and fly out of Buffalo what steps need to be taken?

 

[Sue M]

Do you know if Canadians drive over and fly out of Buffalo what steps need to be taken?

I’d like to know driving requirements too.

 

[Sue M]

No that is not what it means.

The public statements from government about the relaxation of restrictions in July for returning travellers who are fully vaccinated has been that they still need to be tested before arrival and after arrival. The relaxation is that they do not have to do the upto 3 days hotel quarantine, insteade they have to self isolate while waiting for the arrival test result and can then onward travel if the test is negative. They will also be able to skip the 14 day quarantine requirement [if the arrival test is negative].

See https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/government-travel-restrictions-border-1.6061398 :

"However, Ottawa announced on Wednesday that all fully vaccinated travellers currently allowed to enter Canada will soon be able to skip the 14-day quarantine requirement, including the mandated hotel stay. Instead, they'll have to show proof of a negative pre-departure COVID-19 test, take another test upon arrival, and self-isolate until that test comes back negative.

The government has not yet set a date for the rule change but says it "hopes" to implement it by early July. "

Oh darn! Thanks for the clarification. I was hoping it meant we wouldn’t have to do all those Covid tests If you are fully vaccinated. That’s going to add $$$ to the trip. Plus they closed the testing place by MK. And Urgent Care places are charging $175 USD maybe I can find a CVS nearby that isn’t a drive thru as we won’t have a car and have to Uber.
with any luck we’ll have better news after G7 meeting. Maybe just 1 test done at the border. A rapid test!

 

[bcwife76]

Do you know if Canadians drive over and fly out of Buffalo what steps need to be taken?

I’d like to know driving requirements too.

You can't drive over right now. Only US citizens and permanent residents can drive into the US.

 

[White Cat]

Driving back into Canada later this week. It’s interesting planning the test and times for the day we drive over. Keep hearing how bad it is in the Waterloo region. It’s so safe in Florida there’s not much talk about COVID anymore. Life is basically normal here. Going to be strange being in a place that’s shut down and so many people are afraid.

 

[damo]

Driving back into Canada later this week. It’s interesting planning the test and times for the day we drive over. Keep hearing how bad it is in the Waterloo region. It’s so safe in Florida there’s not much talk about COVID anymore. Life is basically normal here. Going to be strange being in a place that’s shut down and so many people are afraid.

The positivity rate in Florida is higher than the positivity rate in Ontario. Just because nobody is talking about it anymore, doesn't make it safer.

 

[ottawamom]

Exactly what @damo said.

 

[HappilyEverAfter80]

I don’t know the numbers, but I think it certainly depends on the person, some would rather stay in Florida right now even if positivity rate is higher, especially if vaccinated than be very restricted and locked down in Ontario. Our friends with dual citizenship chose to move down to FL a couple of months ago, at least for a few months. Their whole family said their mental health improved, the feel once again they are loving life where in Ontario both the kids and the mom were not doing well psychologically. They are all fully vaccinated, wear masks indoors (most places still required masks indoors in FL) and yes they feel safe.
Apparently there are a lot of people who left Ontario in the past few months. At the same time there are people that would not feel safe going to FL or elsewhere in the States right now. Nobody is wrong. What works for me and my family may not work for the family next door. Personally if I could live down there for a few months, I would. Some people may disagree.That’s ok.