jon and kate

REALLY!!!!!!! I felt her pain. I have nothing bad to say about her actions last night. When she said she doesn't want to be alone was so sad :sad1: And he said he is EXCITED to start a new chapter!!! I was discusted! I think he new what he wanted before they even separated. I think Kate hoped for a different outcome. When she said he dosen't even want to talk to her killed me. I understand she was a bit controlling but she didn't wake up one morning and decited to take control.

I noticed from earlier eposodes how he wanted nothing to do with her. It's as if she did something to him. I really fell so sad for her because you could see so much of her pain and not so much his.

Thank You! Thank You! I whole heartedly agree! Yes ! Kate is a B**** and we all see that she doesnt hide it ! so obviously he knew what she was like! And still decided to have kids with her! He keeps saying he's only 32 ! To me it seems more about him like he wants to get out and do what he missed because after all he's only 32! He makes me sick! I feel bad for Kate! I think eventually the show will go on without him I think he's binded to a contract right now and once that runs out he will be gone! They are not showing any new episodes until August 3rd they are on Hiatus to get there new living situations in order!
 
No more free trips,no having to stand in line, ,toys, houses,clothes and whatever else the kids and Jon and Kate got free will be missed by them,I'd miss it if I as use to it.The family already took away other family the kids had Aunt Jodi gone.When the nannys ,babysitters, the fame ,no waiting in line ,no "perks" for anyone it will be hard for all of them.The show is on hiatus now until august maybe the 15 minutes of fame is done.Kate's books due to hit the bargin bin, big signing engagements out the window and that free stuff done with,now they can see what its like to pay as you go.The big house and land I'm sure TLC has paid for it so at least they will have a house.AS for the divorce I'm sure it will be nasty Kate has said the holidays and birthdays are hers so that leaves Jon on the outside on those days and weeks ,its going to be a mess with the kids in the middle of it all.

Just wanted to say that KAte didn't say the Holidays and Birthdays were hers she said that She would not miss a Holiday or Birthday so if that means that she has to suck up whatever is going on with her and Jon at the time and put on a Happy Face she will because they will be sharing these days.:) So that neither miss them.
 

I have watched very few episodes b/c I could not stand the way that Kate treated Jon.

The show should have been called Kate bosses 9. She treats Jon like a child, berates him when he doesn't do things her way and doesn't give him the power to make decisions. When you continually give someone the message that nothing they do is ever good enough - believe me - they will stop trying! Jon could NEVER do anything right in Kate's eyes. So if you are going to get yelled at either way - why keep trying?

And don't even get me started on how she treats her kids. If my kids make it back to the room at the end of the day without ice cream on their shirt at WDW then I feel it was a failed day and we didn't have any fun! Kids need to be kids and get ice cream on their shirts sometimes but that is never acceptable to Kate - not even on vacation.

And when all the crap started to come out in the tabloids instead of dealing with it privately Kate decided she would go to People Magazine, berate Jon some more in print this time and say she is not to blame for the way he acts. She said in that interview - I can never please Jon so I stopped trying. The problem was that I don't think that Kate ever tried to do the things that would have truly made Jon happy - like treat him like her partner instead of another child.

There seem to be a lot of rumors that Kate told Jon sometime ago that the marriage was over but they would keep things up for appearance sake. My DH believes this is true and once Jon started dating someone new - Kate tipped off the tabloids and then twisted the situation so she looks like the victim. I am not sure I believe she would really do that but I think the fact that someone would even think she was capable of something like that speaks to her personality (or at least the one she presents in public)

Their kids will have problems b/c of this. They will hear things at school, people will whisper things, they will have on videotape and magazines and books the way their parents treated each other and them. If I were them, I would budget a lot of money for therapy.

People who treat others like Kate treats Jon will always end up alone.
 
I guess my brother and his wife should have called TLC first to see if they would film a show about them and their multiples...........:lmao:. I think it is sad that we stoop so low that we watch a family disintegrate before our eyes. I say bring back the Osbourne's, at least watching them we didn't feel so bad.
 
REALLY!!!!!!! I felt her pain. I have nothing bad to say about her actions last night. When she said she doesn't want to be alone was so sad :sad1: And he said he is EXCITED to start a new chapter!!! I was discusted! I think he new what he wanted before they even separated. I think Kate hoped for a different outcome. When she said he dosen't even want to talk to her killed me. I understand she was a bit controlling but she didn't wake up one morning and decited to take control.

I noticed from earlier eposodes how he wanted nothing to do with her. It's as if she did something to him. I really fell so sad for her because you could see so much of her pain and not so much his.


I feel the same way :(. I saw the episode last night and the re-play tonight. I was on my elliptical and about fell off because I was crying. It was soooooo sad to watch. Like a PP mentioned, I remember them talking about the importance to them of renewing their vows in Hawaii to show the kids that they would always be together. I know Kate is very in charge and controlling, but I think Jon became just another one of the kids with his "whatever" attitude lately. Of course, I feel worst for the kids. I wish they had tried the counselling route first :(.
 
That is not true. She went straight to injections. Most people who do infertility treatments start at a pill called clomid. With her already having twins AND young and thin PCOS patient, clomid was truly the first choice, not injections. (from someone who has been there, done it all to achieve her miracles)

Correct. The method she chose has the absolute highest rate of multiples. She mentions going strait to IUI and injectables, and I really question the doctor that would do this based on what she "says" she had done. I also have a hard time believing she "knew" she had pcos at such a young age, and being so skinny like she was. She somehow bypassed having to try on their own for over a year and then maybe starting with clomid. Again, this is just going on what she has stated in her interviews. I have struggled with infertility for the past 3 years and still haven't gone with IUI because our insurance won't cover it. Jon must of had great insurance at the time.
 
Don't forget that the production company edits the footage. Viewers only see what they us to see. We also don't know what's said and done when the cameras aren't there. They showed us things that stir emotion - good and bad. And they (TLC) suck us all into the drama and we go (willingly - myself included).
 
Don't forget that the production company edits the footage. Viewers only see what they us to see. We also don't know what's said and done when the cameras aren't there. They showed us things that stir emotion - good and bad. And they (TLC) suck us all into the drama and we go (willingly - myself included).

EXACTLY!!!
So how is it that the show has no responsibility? It was clearly stated that Jon didn't want to continue (or had reservations) and Kate was perfectly happy with continuing filming. IMO TLC could have stepped aside (or in depending how you look at it) and told them TLC had decided to suspend filming for them to get their personal lives together (one way or another)...granted Kate could have then said it was Jon's fault because they knew he didn't want to continue, but I think we would all have a lot more respect for TLC if they would have been the one to make the decision to stop filming BEFORE it got this far.
I just wonder if they didn't have the show and Jon had been out of the house at a 9-5 job (and/or Kate still picking up shifts as a nurse) if their marriage would have evolved into what it has become. Yes, she still told him what to do (if she "had" to or if it was just her nature), but for the hours at work he got a break and was told what to do by someone else :lmao:. ...and Kate didn't have to tell him what to do and wnet about her schedule.
I know that even being a SAHM I go crazy and want an escape every once in awhile with just 2 kids...and my DH used to have to be away from home for weeks at a time for work. We managed for 2 reasons: communication about what was happening (talking and listening openly and honestly) AND taking time to be husband and wife! They keep saying this is all baout their kids and they are doing everything for them...maybe if it was about them AS A COUPLE and putting a little priority on theri relationship things would be different. Yes, we, as parents, do all we can for our children, but ultimately they are just passing through our lives. For most of us, our children (will) grow-up, move out, and become independent adults/spouses/parents. What then do we have? We have our marriage/spouse...the relationship that although evolving is a constant (or that is what we all hope when on the day we say our vows...really do any of us go into marraige saying this may end in divorce?). We are not JUST mommy/mom & daddy/dad...we are hunny/babe/dear/wife-husband. In the last few years how much did TLC show just Jon and Kate together (like a date night)?...cause really the show was about the family not just the kids.
Budget Board related: I truly hope they do not waste the $$ that has been earned with the filming on lawyers...oh wait Kate would never allow someone else to make $$ off her family :lmao:.
 
I dont care what Jon or others say.....He IS a 32yr old man, who is balding, out of shape, with 8 kids, and one heck of a future ex-wife....Who wants to wait in line for that?!?! Sign me up ladies!!:lmao:
 
I dont care what Jon or others say.....He IS a 32yr old man, who is balding, out of shape, with 8 kids, and one heck of a future ex-wife....Who wants to wait in line for that?!?!

VERY true!!:lmao:
 
I am so mad at Jon! I really resent that childish comment, "I'm excited about this new chapter in my life". Is he excited about the pain he is causing his family? That he feels that way, speaks volumes about his immaturity. He needs to MAN UP fast! I think he needs to give Kate a chance to mend her ways. They need serious counseling. They need to fireproof their marriage. Kate looked so SAD and I think she is rational enough to realize that her bickering, condenscending manner needs to be changed. Those Hawaii vows really meant nothing--what a sham! I guess it was all about a free trip. How very SAD! I'll continue to watch in the hope that Kate learns some life lessons and she finds a real man who will be a good father to her kids. Jon--grow up!
 
I dont care what Jon or others say.....He IS a 32yr old man, who is balding, out of shape, with 8 kids, and one heck of a future ex-wife....Who wants to wait in line for that?!?! Sign me up ladies!!:lmao:

Anyone who thinks that she can tag on to his (over-used) 15 minutes of fame and possibly get to some of that hard earned $$??? Maybe that is why he's been reported to be hanging around Kate's plastic surgeon's daughter...he want's a tummy tuck and some lipo too.:rotfl2:

You mean an unemployeed, "balding, out of shape," divorce' with 8 kids, who wants to party like it is 1999 isn't a catch???:lmao::lmao::lmao:
 
I am so mad at Jon! I really resent that childish comment, "I'm excited about this new chapter in my life". Is he excited about the pain he is causing his family? That he feels that way, speaks volumes about his immaturity. He needs to MAN UP fast! I think he needs to give Kate a chance to mend her ways. They need serious counseling. They need to fireproof their marriage. Kate looked so SAD and I think she is rational enough to realize that her bickering, condenscending manner needs to be changed. Those Hawaii vows really meant nothing--what a sham! I guess it was all about a free trip. How very SAD! I'll continue to watch in the hope that Kate learns some life lessons and she finds a real man who will be a good father to her kids. Jon--grow up!

Yep, she LOOKED so sad. I am sure she was, but how much of it was over the divorce and how much was over that she could be loosing all the perks that come with the show. OK, I know that I am now sounding like an Ice Queen, but with the way TLC edits anything can looks like, well, anything they want. And Kate seems to know how to play the cameras...just my observation.:confused3
 
Someone mentioned before why this was on the budget board... I just figured out why. I wonder how much $$$ we can make for Disney trips selling "Team Jon" and "Team Kate" t-shirts.....:lmao:
 
Been really thinking of this today....

Kate said something to the effect of this has been going on for a while now....yeah? A while? How long is "a while" in Kate terms, b/c less than a year ago you renewed your vows. This Jon and the other woman thing has been in the media maybe 2, 3, 4 months @ most. Now defending Jon at all, but seriously, this couple, in my opinion, made no attempt to even work this out.

I think Jon wanted out, I think he did not want the cameras around as much and I think when he approached Kate about this topic, she flipped. She needs the money, attention, fame, etc. I really feel bad for the kids. THey have ALL this money and Jon is deciding to move just too far. He could find a nice house close to his kids that would be able to accommodate them and he is going miles away. And honestly, I have no idea how Kate is going to take care of 8 all by herself.

I just think it is sad, in the first 2 seasons they looked very happy, money and the media changed this. The money they get from this should go to marriage counseling, not a deluxe 1 bdrm apartment in NYC or Crooked Houses and Motorcycles.

I am just very bothered by this, I told fiance if we were going through something like this I would not want my issues to be aired on TV for all the world to see...what's that expression that deals with dirty laundry lol?
 
I started watching the show when I was refinishing my kitchen cabinets one weekend when they had a J&K+8 marathon. What came across to me, was how organized Kate was when planning an outing with the kids, how well behaved the kids were, how well dressed the kids were, the great variation in their diets - crab legs - how many 4 yo do you know that eat crab legs??

From what I learned from others - John quit his job to stay home with the kids because Kate wrote a book and needed to travel a lot for the book tour and speaking engagements. So she became the bread winner, the major bread winner. He didn't like being the stay at home dad. He wanted to be out snow boarding with the guys, riding the ATVs, etc. He became bitter that he was trapped.

I guess TLC only tapes the family for 1 day for an episode. They don't have camera's running 24 hours a day. Sorry gang, but if someone wanted to pay me $75,000 to film my kids birthday party, or our trip to Sesame Place, roll cameras. That way my DS can afford a good shrink, not the one paid for by BC&BS because I made him eat broccoli.

Personally, I would have no patience for the dip either. I find him to be pathetic, especially after the comment - I'm excited to start the new chapter in my life - or in other words - I'm gonna sleep with a whole bunch of new woman. Yippee. I bet in another year - Kate will have written another successful book - how I survived blah blah blah, is still on Oprah talking about how she survived, and Jon will have gotten some 21 yo stripper pregnant.
 
I started watching the show when I was refinishing my kitchen cabinets one weekend when they had a J&K+8 marathon. What came across to me, was how organized Kate was when planning an outing with the kids, how well behaved the kids were, how well dressed the kids were, the great variation in their diets - crab legs - how many 4 yo do you know that eat crab legs??

From what I learned from others - John quit his job to stay home with the kids because Kate wrote a book and needed to travel a lot for the book tour and speaking engagements. So she became the bread winner, the major bread winner. He didn't like being the stay at home dad. He wanted to be out snow boarding with the guys, riding the ATVs, etc. He became bitter that he was trapped.

I guess TLC only tapes the family for 1 day for an episode. They don't have camera's running 24 hours a day. Sorry gang, but if someone wanted to pay me $75,000 to film my kids birthday party, or our trip to Sesame Place, roll cameras. That way my DS can afford a good shrink, not the one paid for by BC&BS because I made him eat broccoli.

Personally, I would have no patience for the dip either. I find him to be pathetic, especially after the comment - I'm excited to start the new chapter in my life - or in other words - I'm gonna sleep with a whole bunch of new woman. Yippee. I bet in another year - Kate will have written another successful book - how I survived blah blah blah, is still on Oprah talking about how she survived, and Jon will have gotten some 21 yo stripper pregnant.

:rotfl: Love it!
 
I dont care what Jon or others say.....He IS a 32yr old man, who is balding, out of shape, with 8 kids, and one heck of a future ex-wife....Who wants to wait in line for that?!?! Sign me up ladies!!:lmao:

:lmao:Thanks for the offer, but Im gonna have to pass:crazy2:
 












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