jon and kate

[scootch]

I have watched very few episodes b/c I could not stand the way that Kate treated Jon.

The show should have been called Kate bosses 9. .

People who treat others like Kate treats Jon will always end up alone.

that is how I feel too!

 

[flagdaytwins]

Lonely -- that's what this fame and big house brought them.

Sorry Kate, I'd trade fame and fortune for having a FEW FRIENDS, happy kids, and happy husband. Oh wait....I have all that!

I hope that Hawaiian hotel that gave them a free vacation sues the pants off of them.

 

[cherokeemamma]

I am not going to speculate on their finances or what they want because I do not know these people. I think the kids are adorable and look to be happy and well adjusted. The show is for entertainment purposes and I am sure it is edited for that. Even though you see alot of their life there is no way we would see it all or want to. I would hate for my family to be taped like that. I would probably look like an unorganized disaster.

Like many others have said, I was very disappointed that neither Jon nor Kate mentioned "fixing" or "working on" their marriage. No marriage is easy; it requires work from both spouses and alot of compromise. I hope for their children's sake that, whatever judge gets to be the lucky one in this mess will require counseling. I can't imagine that a divorce will just be granted. That would be so very wrong.

Also, it was my understanding that they were Christians. Where is their pastor or elders/deacons? I would hope their pastor or others from their church would intervene (with at least some advice and wisdom)

I am a child of divorce and it sucks! My parents divorced when I was 3. I am in my 40's now and every holiday and birthday is still overshadowed by my parents and their inability to get along.

I am very sad for the kids.

 

[suevee]

Originally Posted by DVCBELLE
I have watched very few episodes b/c I could not stand the way that Kate treated Jon.

The show should have been called Kate bosses 9. .

People who treat others like Kate treats Jon will always end up alone.


The way Kate treats Jon is learned behaviour. Learned because it was easier for Jon to let Kate take on the burden of the family. It made his life easier. He could be the nice guy and coast. Once he was required to help ie take care of the kids because Kate was the breadwinner....He became angry.

Now he wants out.

 

[fletchers5]

It is very funny reading all these post.....Everyone has their own opinion and everyone has interpreted the last show differently. That is the one Great Thing about OUR country. We are allowed to have are own opinions......

Now that said......I have watched this show since the beginning. Yes, Kate can be very controlling......BUT.....and a big BUT.....if you had 8 kids I would think you would be a little controlling also. Can you imagine if Kate wasn't the way she is.......what the house would be like with having 8 kids. And I don't think it is just the 8 kids, I think it is having 6 the same age. We are all so eager to criticize. I really think we all have a little controlling issues within ourselves. We as women like our house a certain way, want our kids to look nice ( can't imagine what my kids would have dressed like if I would have let my husband dress them) Guys just don't worry as much.

I truly believe that alot of their problems stem to PEOPLE telling JOHN ......HOW DO YOU PUT UP WITH HER........BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.....and then comes along a young girl who he meets at a bar and the rest is history. HE thinks life is greener on the other side. He doesn't have to deal with Kate anymore. He can enjoy his YOUNG life. Do I blame John.....some of the blame goes to him. I think he copped out and someday he will realize and someday he will wish that things had turned out differently.

They mentioned problems started about 6 months ago.....I think when they renewed their vows....THEY WERE HAPPY.......

I always liked KATE and JOHN. They were very funny together. They made it work in the beginning. KUDOS to them for sharing their life with us. They did what they needed to do to make a GOOD life for their kids. They sacrificed their freedom so they could provide for those children. Are they perfect....NO......Is that how I run my house......NO.....Is that how I treat my husband....NO..... (Well sometimes) LOL......But to each his own. As long as there is no abuse... who is to say how they are supposed to act. What a boreing WORLD if everyone did EVERYTHING the same.

I hope the show goes on.......and I hope they both get what they are looking for........ Good luck to them and the children

 

[Kimmumum]

This morning on the "Today" show, someone who interviewed Kate for PEOPLE magazine, said that the show will be going on hiatus.

 

[Dancemom03]

Lonely -- that's what this fame and big house brought them.

Sorry Kate, I'd trade fame and fortune for having a FEW FRIENDS, happy kids, and happy husband. Oh wait....I have all that!

I hope that Hawaiian hotel that gave them a free vacation sues the pants off of them.

ITA!
After watching several of the shows leading up to the vow renewal, it seemed pretty obvious to me that this was Kate's way to get what she felt her parents refused to give her the first time. I don't think it was about the marriage at all. I think it was about the free trip/ceremony she always wanted & resented not getting before. It didn't go unnoticed that her family/friends (like she still has any... wonder why?) were nowhere to be seen. IMO, it was all about the party and, as usual, what she could get - not their future as a couple/family.

I'd lay odds that they were having major issues then. It's not unusual for people to renew their vows while attempting to put a marriage back together - and after all, this was Kate's dream wedding offered up free on a platter.
It wouldn't surprise me a bit if both the trip, and her behavior the other night to garner sympathy after she filed for divorce, were both lies, put on for the camera to give viewers what they needed to keep the show - and the money - going.

As far as Jon being excited... I've been happily married for 33 years now and it is sad - but I still think that it's at least an honest reaction and perfectly acceptable, given the fact that he sees a chance to escape not only his controlling, verbally abusive wife but also the TV cameras for a while and try to live a semblance of what he thinks a normal life might be instead of the charade his daily life's become. He's been given a temporary reprieve from a horrible situation. I'm sure he'll still be a good dad - countless divorced men are, you know. I also don't doubt that he'll do some wild, stupid things that he'll later regret. As sad as it is though, it's still a new chapter of his life, I'd probably be excited too...

 

[DMRick]

It's not unusual for people to renew their vows while attempting to put a marriage back together -

This part I'll totally agree with. They either have vow renewels or another baby, and both is usually just another try at saving a marriage going down hill fast. Neither usually work. At the time of the vow renewel, most of us thought Jon wasn't very interested.

 

[pweyl36]

She did. It was done at the same time as the tummy tuck; they mentioned it.

What they didn't mention was the rhinoplasty that she also appears to have had -- if you look at the old "before" photos when she had brown hair, her nose was much more up-tilted; now it's perfectly aquiline.

The truth is that this show was about to run its course anyway, the kids were getting older and losing their cuteness factor. The "will they or won't they" factor was the draw this season, and now that's gone, too. I'm sure that TLC got several faxes today from sponsors who are choosing not to renew their ad buys.

BTW, they *do* have a mortgage on the house, in fact, on both houses, as the old one has not yet sold. They said so in an EW interview that is available on the web. I'm thinking that the new house will be up for sale shortly, too, unless she can pay for it from the book proceeds.

The usual payment arrangement for shows involving children is that they are not directly paid; the money is normally put in trust for them. They cannot own real estate at their ages, so the money cannot be used to buy a house unless the trust owns it. Whatever the parents made is theirs, but I suspect the bulk of the cash that TLC paid went to the kids.

Anyone else care to bet that there is a ghostwriter already at work on the story of how traumatic the divorce was? Kate is going to have to depend on the book income now that the TV money is gone; speaking engagements will be the only spotlight left to her. (If you think she's ever putting scrubs on again, rethink. She's addicted to the spotlight now. It won't be long before the kids get a nanny and Kate will be on the motivational speaking circuit full-time.)

It wasnt done during the tummy tuck. The dr told her just to a good bra.

 

[ZiPaD3doDAH]

the thing that bothers me the most is that people think they can just quit the show.

NO THEY CAN'T.

you really think someone is going to offer jon or kate a job now? with all the fame they have? thats like telling me that someone is going to give kevin federline a job (britney spears ex-husband). he is too famous. also, who will take care of the kids? a baby sitter? you'll have to pay the baby sitter about two weeks of a paycheck in order for them to watch EIGHT kids around until one of them comes home.

their paychecks come from this show. they have to keep it in order to pay for things.

then, kate could possibly make money from the books but who will take care of the kids when she goes on book tours? we all know how well that worked out for jon and kate. also, people will say "oh, it's all about her, never her kids. she wants to keep selling books" however, thats what she HAS to do in order to provide for these kids.

 

[CC12005]

What got me worse than that was when he said he was sad but also excited to start a new chapter in his life - EXCITED?!?!?! SERIOUSLY?!?!?!

I agree with you. I saw his excited comment during the reruns. The first time I only saw the last 10-15 mins. Getting excited leaving your kids is kind of sick (at least if they aren't teenagers, yet).

 

[stitchlovestink]

Lonely -- that's what this fame and big house brought them.

Sorry Kate, I'd trade fame and fortune for having a FEW FRIENDS, happy kids, and happy husband. Oh wait....I have all that!

I hope that Hawaiian hotel that gave them a free vacation sues the pants off of them.

bolding is mine...
Sue them for WHAT?!?!?! The hotel got their free advertising. what in the world are they going to sue them for ?

Originally Posted by DVCBELLE
I have watched very few episodes b/c I could not stand the way that Kate treated Jon.

The show should have been called Kate bosses 9. .

People who treat others like Kate treats Jon will always end up alone.


The way Kate treats Jon is learned behaviour. Learned because it was easier for Jon to let Kate take on the burden of the family. It made his life easier. He could be the nice guy and coast. Once he was required to help ie take care of the kids because Kate was the breadwinner....He became angry.

Now he wants out.

Kate was pretty much forced to treat Jon that way because he wouldn't take any initiative on his own to do anything. so in order for anything to get done by him, she had to boss him around.
I do definitely agree with the part of your post that I bolded though...

 

[Our 2 Princesses]

Getting excited leaving your kids is kind of sick (at least if they aren't teenagers, yet). [/QUOTE]

So funny!!

 

[patsal]

I agree with you. I saw his excited comment during the reruns. The first time I only saw the last 10-15 mins. Getting excited leaving your kids is kind of sick (at least if they aren't teenagers, yet).

I'm laughing so hard! When someone we know says they are divorcing, if my DH and I are talking about it later on I always slip in that if we divorce he can have the house, and the kids (ours are 14 and a few months from 18). I figure the prospect of sole custody of two teens is enough to keep DH in line!

 

[jmminarik]

Hulu.com may have last nights show also. Not sure how often TLC updates their shows.

Hulu doesn't have much other than clips for the show that I could see. Fancast.com has previous season shows, but not the premier from this year.

 

[TheRatPack]

I'm laughing so hard! When someone we know says they are divorcing, if my DH and I are talking about it later on I always slip in that if we divorce he can have the house, and the kids (ours are 14 and a few months from 18). I figure the prospect of sole custody of two teens is enough to keep DH in line!

LOL, yea we have 5 children so my husband and I remind each other all the time that #1 no one else would have us with this size brood and #2 with all these kids, there is no walking out.

I hate to see any marriage fail, but they do everyday. Parents of multiples have a higher divorce rate too, sad. We adopted 3 at one time....and our marriage really took a beating having 3 at once I can't imagine 6 at once. Although....they were through most of the harder years, so not sure what happened.

 

[princessmom29]

Originally Posted by DVCBELLE
I have watched very few episodes b/c I could not stand the way that Kate treated Jon.

The show should have been called Kate bosses 9. .

People who treat others like Kate treats Jon will always end up alone.


The way Kate treats Jon is learned behaviour. Learned because it was easier for Jon to let Kate take on the burden of the family. It made his life easier. He could be the nice guy and coast. Once he was required to help ie take care of the kids because Kate was the breadwinner....He became angry.

Now he wants out.

I think in was learned behavior on Jon's part. In order to maintain some kind of peace in that house he learned not to contradict Kate in any way and to take orders and do as he was told. I can't say that I blame him for being tired of being treated like a child.

the thing that bothers me the most is that people think they can just quit the show.

NO THEY CAN'T.

you really think someone is going to offer jon or kate a job now? with all the fame they have? thats like telling me that someone is going to give kevin federline a job (britney spears ex-husband). he is too famous. also, who will take care of the kids? a baby sitter? you'll have to pay the baby sitter about two weeks of a paycheck in order for them to watch EIGHT kids around until one of them comes home.

their paychecks come from this show. they have to keep it in order to pay for things.

then, kate could possibly make money from the books but who will take care of the kids when she goes on book tours? we all know how well that worked out for jon and kate. also, people will say "oh, it's all about her, never her kids. she wants to keep selling books" however, thats what she HAS to do in order to provide for these kids.

I think if I was making tens of thousands of dollars and episode, plus getting royalties from book deals, making money from speaking engagments and public appearences I could have saved enough by now that i wouldn't need someone to hire me. If they hadn't bought a million dollar house and weren't trying to support the kind of lifestyle they are leading they would not need to keep doing the show to keep their heads above water.

 

[tayandjensmom]

I have watched this show from the start. Couldn't stand Kate for the longest time. Then you have Jon, who wants to take no control and be in charge of nothing. So yes, Kate had to instruct him to do everything. Made me crazy.

Now, you have Jon "who is excited to start the next chapter of his life". OMG, I can't stand to look at him or hear him speak. He wants to live like he is 20 years old again. Hey, I don't care that you are only 32. You have 8 kids, suck it up, you pathetic excuse of a man !!!

Just goes to show you what getting a little bit of money can do to some people. Hair plugs,diamond earrings, and a 2 seater sports car. Good lord, you make me sick. I hope he gets exactly what he deserves in the end.

And anyone who thinks these kids are not going to need some serious help in the future. Really They can buy the DVD set and continue to relive this train wreck. I feel so sad for all 8 of them.

 

[maxie]

the thing that bothers me the most is that people think they can just quit the show.

NO THEY CAN'T.

you really think someone is going to offer jon or kate a job now? with all the fame they have? thats like telling me that someone is going to give kevin federline a job (britney spears ex-husband). he is too famous. also, who will take care of the kids? a baby sitter? you'll have to pay the baby sitter about two weeks of a paycheck in order for them to watch EIGHT kids around until one of them comes home.

their paychecks come from this show. they have to keep it in order to pay for things.

then, kate could possibly make money from the books but who will take care of the kids when she goes on book tours? we all know how well that worked out for jon and kate. also, people will say "oh, it's all about her, never her kids. she wants to keep selling books" however, thats what she HAS to do in order to provide for these kids.

So not true. If they can afford both a apartment in Trump Towers (Jon was looking at one) and a 1.2 million dollar home they can afford to be home. They have royalties coming in from the books and DVDs.

They can sell the house, new cars and downsize back to a much smaller home and still not have to work.

The kids are in school starting this fall. In a year they will be in school full time. They do not need full time babysitters.

 

[mrsklamc]

Divorce is always sad, but to me this is especially sad because it's all recorded for the kids to look back and say 'wow, my parents were selfish jerks.'