jon and kate

I have watched this show from the start. Couldn't stand Kate for the longest time. Then you have Jon, who wants to take no control and be in charge of nothing. So yes, Kate had to instruct him to do everything. Made me crazy.

Now, you have Jon "who is excited to start the next chapter of his life". OMG, I can't stand to look at him or hear him speak. He wants to live like he is 20 years old again. Hey, I don't care that you are only 32. You have 8 kids, suck it up, you pathetic excuse of a man !!!

Just goes to show you what getting a little bit of money can do to some people. Hair plugs,diamond earrings, and a 2 seater sports car. Good lord, you make me sick. I hope he gets exactly what he deserves in the end.

And anyone who thinks these kids are not going to need some serious help in the future. Really :confused3 They can buy the DVD set and continue to relive this train wreck. I feel so sad for all 8 of them.

Jon will get exactly what he deserves ~ a chance at happiness away from Kate. :thumbsup2
 
I found a petition to sign to get this show off of the air:

blah-blah

It is time for the Gosselins and TLC to grow up!!

Seriously??? Why would you waste your time?!?! If you don't want to watch it, then don't. If other people do - then let them. Why go bossing around other people for something that has NO EFFECT on you
 
very sorry for the kids the most. Jon needs a swift kick in his rear end Im sorry to say I couldnt be married to a guy like that personally. he now has his new 20 something year old girlfriend to keep him young lol... what a whiner. grow up
 

Jon will get exactly what he deserves ~ a chance at happiness away from Kate. :thumbsup2

:thumbsup2 He never said he was excited to be away from his children. I seriously doubt anyone would be. Maybe he's excited about a chance for peace and happiness.

I couldn't imagine spending the rest of my life with someone I didn't love. Counseling could help them, but they both have to want to make it work. And I seriously wish they would examine that route, but divorce seems easier to come by now. :guilty:
 
What can I say? I am from the same area as JnK+8, I have watched from the beginning. I love the show, but I have a few comments to make....
1. Jon knew what Kate was like when they got married, therefore, those complaining of her mistreating him, should remember they did fall in love more than 10 yrs ago, something held them together.
2. Going onto TV to chronicle their lives was thier choice and it didnt end their marriage, they did that together, not Jon alone and not Kate alone.
3. It appears that Jon wouldnt choose counseling, that he wanted out. On that note, when I was a stay at home mom, i wanted out too. I started to resent the fact that I was stuck at home while my husband got to socialize with others. I went out and got a job, but I only had 2 kids. Im pretty sure SAHM's know what I mean (and I dont mean all the time, but there were times it was hard). Jon just didnt know what to do, and when he got out he went ape ***t , like a kid in a candy store. He only got attention cause he was on the show.
4. I hope and pray that somehow someway they work things out, for them and the kids. They need to remember why they fell in love, and work on their issues.
5. If they dont make it, lets hope this will be the last season. Kate continues to say the show must go on, well stop criticizing her, has anyone thought about the fact that they are under contract for 40 episodes this season? To not tape on their own choice could cost them dearly....

end rant.......
 
Seriously??? Why would you waste your time?!?! If you don't want to watch it, then don't. If other people do - then let them. Why go bossing around other people for something that has NO EFFECT on you

WOW!! I never bossed anyone around.

I signed the petition myself becuase for some reason I fell very strongly about this.

I chose to share this information with others in case others feel the same.

I did not go on and on ranting about my concerns, I just posted a link to the only solution I know of. Yes, granted that it is not the best solution, but hey, it is something.

I never forced my opinion on anyone nor did I "boss" anyone around.

I don't know why the situation is bugging me so much, but I just keep thinking that if everyone turns a blind eye, no one will help those kids.

Anyways, I just thought some people maybe interested....
 
I never forced my opinion on anyone nor did I "boss" anyone around. ..

Respectfully disagree. By trying to take it off the air you are affecting others who would want to watch.

I don't even watch this show I just don't see why it being on would have to influence your life when you could just turn it off. You can turn it off right?
 
Just a thought...

When two people get married....it is and should be about the two of them. Kids come along and a decision needs to be made. I think it is still about the husband and wife first and foremost. Kids are secondary, they need to be cared for, raised to respect, work, and excel but if mom and dad start putting kids before marriage.....then the marriage is over.

Just a thought...
 
very sorry for the kids the most. Jon needs a swift kick in his rear end Im sorry to say I couldnt be married to a guy like that personally. he now has his new 20 something year old girlfriend to keep him young lol... what a whiner. grow up

I think that if anyone needs a kick in the pants it is Kate. She is NEVER home with those kids. How can a mom spend 18 days out of the month away from her kids and say that they are "top priority" in her life??? She is never even home to have an idea how they are doing unless they are filming. At one point last season she was upest because the kids kept calling her by the nanny's name!! I think Jon, right or wrong, got tired of being left home with the kids while Kate did as she pleased. I think a lot of people just automatically want to blame the man, and in this situation it appears to me that the woman is the one walking out on her reponsibilites to her children and leaving her husband holding the bag, and he finally got the guts to say no more. Kate needs to spend more time with her kids and less time self promoting. From everything I have seen over the last 3 years she is essentially a selfish person who wants to be seen as the self-sacrificing madonna figure who gives up everything for her kids. That is just not the case. She is gone more than she is home.
 
I was waiting with their family at Artist Point during their first trip to Disney- the one that was filmed. They were there with the blonde friend ( the wealthy one, can't remember her name) and Aunt Jodi. We waited in front of the podium for a good 10 minutes. During that time none of the adults looked at each other, let alone spoke to each other, nor was anyone smiling, even the kids. Kate chastised Joel for petting my service dog, saying harshly he "didn't need to touch everything". He was only barely 3 years old. She never looked at me. I thought they all were "odd" and there was a hostile aura around them, but I chalked it up to a stressful day at Disney and we ALL can look and interact like that after a long hot day in the parks ( this was July30). I wonder if they were getting along even then. As Jon said, the show became a business and I don't think Kate was willing to give up the $$ or the fame. I don't think she has many close relationships, but then I certainly don't know that- just what has been shown and observed. She has alienated her friends and family who no longer speak to her, so who will be there to support her now? I don't admire either of them, and it took both of them to get into this situation. I wonder what will happen when the kids reach their teen years. Their developmental years were spent with a boom mike over their heads and there were embarrassing scenes on that show ( remember Jon pulling the poop from one kid's rear?). One has only to look at other families of multiples such as the Dilley's or the McCaughey's to see how they protected their kids from being exploited even though I'm sure they could've also used the money. It's all very sad, and TLC should let them out of their contract. For those who want to see the show? Those kids should come first before any viewers desires.---Kathy
 
Respectfully disagree. By trying to take it off the air you are affecting others who would want to watch.

I don't even watch this show I just don't see why it being on would have to influence your life when you could just turn it off. You can turn it off right?

Like I said, for some reason the was these kids are being publicly humiliated just bugs me. I know it has no effect on my life, but what about theirs. I can't explain it, it is weird, but for some reason what is happening to these kids just seems so wrong. Their parents do not appear (and I say appear as I do not know them) to care. TLC is obviously after ratings. Who is looking out for these kids.

Anyways, I think "others who want to watch" can find something else to watch. Those kids need their privacy so they can grieve the loss of their family life.

Haven't you ever just wanted to be left alone?

I am not some self-righteous crack-pot here. I normally do not follow tabloids and really find reality TV quite humerous and somewhat entertaining. But for some reason I am drawn to this story and these kids. I mean, they do not get to say that they do not want to be on TV. The do not have an option for privacy.

Chosing to be on reality TV and possibly being publicly humiliated as a result of your choice is one thing, but being forced onto reality TV and having the world watch as you go through one of the worst time of your life is another...

That is all I was trying to say.....
 
5. If they dont make it, lets hope this will be the last season. Kate continues to say the show must go on, well stop criticizing her, has anyone thought about the fact that they are under contract for 40 episodes this season? To not tape on their own choice could cost them dearly....

end rant.......

I completely agree with you here. TLC needs to step up to the plate and pay them out their contract and pull the plug themselves.

Someone needs to be the bigger man here.
 
Jon knew what Kate was like when they got married, therefore, those complaining of her mistreating him, should remember they did fall in love more than 10 yrs ago, something held them together


exacly..
 
I also wanted to say that I take no side in this divorce - only the two of them know what went wrong. As for Jon knowing Kate, I agree. And I agree with people change. I do not agree with affairs, but really no one knows that for sure. Of course there is a lot of speculation - but no one outside of them knows for sure.

Sadly, divorce happens. All I am saying is that the kids should have the right to go through that in private.
 
1. Jon knew what Kate was like when they got married, therefore, those complaining of her mistreating him, should remember they did fall in love more than 10 yrs ago, something held them together.

end rant.......

So - people never change? You don't think that having the 8 kids made her bossier? This argument doesn't hold water with me...people get divorced all the time b/c once they got married they felt the other person changed. I don't think it is possible to know how your spouse will parent and what your life will be like.

And maybe Jon got bullied into getting married (doesn't say much about him as a man) but maybe he finally did man up and say ENOUGH this is not the life I want and for 10 years I have been bullied by this woman and I am done.

I think Jon and Kate need major counseling and both need to make a lot of changes or they need to get divorced. They are not showing their children a healthy marriage.
 
Just a thought...

When two people get married....it is and should be about the two of them. Kids come along and a decision needs to be made. I think it is still about the husband and wife first and foremost. Kids are secondary, they need to be cared for, raised to respect, work, and excel but if mom and dad start putting kids before marriage.....then the marriage is over.

Just a thought...

:thumbsup2 ITA!!!
 
So not true. If they can afford both a apartment in Trump Towers (Jon was looking at one) and a 1.2 million dollar home they can afford to be home. They have royalties coming in from the books and DVDs.

They can sell the house, new cars and downsize back to a much smaller home and still not have to work.

The kids are in school starting this fall. In a year they will be in school full time. They do not need full time babysitters.

TLC said they'd pay for part of the Trump apt.......
 
very sorry for the kids the most. Jon needs a swift kick in his rear end Im sorry to say I couldnt be married to a guy like that personally. he now has his new 20 something year old girlfriend to keep him young lol... what a whiner. grow up
:laughing: I liked him until he said he was excited about starting a new chapter in his life

What can I say? I am from the same area as JnK+8, I have watched from the beginning. I love the show, but I have a few comments to make....
1. Jon knew what Kate was like when they got married, therefore, those complaining of her mistreating him, should remember they did fall in love more than 10 yrs ago, something held them together.
2. Going onto TV to chronicle their lives was thier choice and it didnt end their marriage, they did that together, not Jon alone and not Kate alone.
3. It appears that Jon wouldnt choose counseling, that he wanted out. On that note, when I was a stay at home mom, i wanted out too. I started to resent the fact that I was stuck at home while my husband got to socialize with others. I went out and got a job, but I only had 2 kids. Im pretty sure SAHM's know what I mean (and I dont mean all the time, but there were times it was hard). Jon just didnt know what to do, and when he got out he went ape ***t , like a kid in a candy store. He only got attention cause he was on the show.
4. I hope and pray that somehow someway they work things out, for them and the kids. They need to remember why they fell in love, and work on their issues.
5. If they dont make it, lets hope this will be the last season. Kate continues to say the show must go on, well stop criticizing her, has anyone thought about the fact that they are under contract for 40 episodes this season? To not tape on their own choice could cost them dearly....

end rant.......
:worship: I couldnt havent said it any better!
Now....I am brushing off myself and saying..."I will not judge anyone else
as there is only one judge and its not me:lovestruc:rolleyes1
 
I think that if anyone needs a kick in the pants it is Kate. She is NEVER home with those kids. How can a mom spend 18 days out of the month away from her kids and say that they are "top priority" in her life??? She is never even home to have an idea how they are doing unless they are filming. At one point last season she was upest because the kids kept calling her by the nanny's name!! I think Jon, right or wrong, got tired of being left home with the kids while Kate did as she pleased. I think a lot of people just automatically want to blame the man, and in this situation it appears to me that the woman is the one walking out on her reponsibilites to her children and leaving her husband holding the bag, and he finally got the guts to say no more. Kate needs to spend more time with her kids and less time self promoting. From everything I have seen over the last 3 years she is essentially a selfish person who wants to be seen as the self-sacrificing madonna figure who gives up everything for her kids. That is just not the case. She is gone more than she is home.

I stopped watching because Kate drove me nuts. I did watch the monday re runs and last show. I cant believe how much she changed! I think she likes the lime light and attention. Everything is for the kids but shes always right infront of the camera. I didnt realize how much she is away from the kids. Plus her doing her hair and make up for the partying shopping and the spa.

What caught my attention was John's comment about him not hating her. He said it a few times. Raised a red flag for me. I even told dh why would he hate her if he's the one who messed up. Made me think Kate might have done something and he decided to move on. I think he loves his kids and doesnt want to stay because of the two fighting, he doesnt want the kids to deal with that. If Kate is a rude person image how ugly she can be when cameras are off. I could see he is hurting. Kate just seemed so fake like she knows many hate her and she is playing the "I'm all about the kids"

I think they need to end the show or take a break and focus on the kids, They need to do family and single consueling. I think Kate will be dating pretty soon or out on the town more by herself without the kids. Dh also mentioned he read she bought a new car $50,000-$60,000 .

BTW- she looked very nice in the magazine cover of i think "people" cant remember the name. Her hair and make up looked really nice. I think john needs more pampering a make over and new threads dont ya think .
 












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