jon and kate

[Schachteles]

I noticed this also. Looked like a perk to me!!

I am also thinking she got a tummy tuck (or whatever you call it now). There was a picture of her in a 2 piece swimsuit on a magazine cover, and I thought to myself, how did that happen . Didn't they do a show one time, where she showed what her belly looked like after carrying 6 babies?

She had a tummy tuck a LONG time ago, it was on the show. A woman that watched the shows husband did it...and then another person felt sorry that Jon didn't get anything done, so they got him hair plugs.

 

[brooklynheights]

No more free trips,no having to stand in line, ,toys, houses,clothes and whatever else the kids and Jon and Kate got free will be missed by them,I'd miss it if I as use to it.The family already took away other family the kids had Aunt Jodi gone.When the nannys ,babysitters, the fame ,no waiting in line ,no "perks" for anyone it will be hard for all of them.The show is on hiatus now until august maybe the 15 minutes of fame is done.Kate's books due to hit the bargin bin, big signing engagements out the window and that free stuff done with,now they can see what its like to pay as you go.The big house and land I'm sure TLC has paid for it so at least they will have a house.AS for the divorce I'm sure it will be nasty Kate has said the holidays and birthdays are hers so that leaves Jon on the outside on those days and weeks ,its going to be a mess with the kids in the middle of it all.

 

[d1sneyf4n]

Are you kidding me ? All these children have known all of their lives is camera men (probably extended family to them at this point) in their homes, on vacations, etc. Lets not even talk about all of the vacations that they've gotten to go to - plus TV shows they've been asked to do (have you ever met Oprah multiple times?).

Do you honestly think that they are going to come out of all of this unscathed? Being children they have no idea that normal-everyday people do not live lives like this, with these sort of opportunities handed to them on a silver platter just because they are multiples. Being children also, they cannot even compute if you explain to them that is not how most people live. I've tried to explain homless vets, abused children, etc. (people in unfortunate circumstances) to my DDs - they say they understand, but there is no way that their little minds can comprehend the realness of those situations (shoot, I've tried to tell my DDs that there are adults who have never seen the ocean -- they can't even wrap their minds around that!). I'm worried about what will happen to these children when all of the fan-fare dies down and mom & dad have to get real jobs, lives, etc. It's going to be quite shocking for them (the kids).

Would it make you feel better if I retracted the 'messed up' for 'will be in therapy for many, many years'?

You say what you want to say, but I hope no one ever calls your children messed up for what ever reason. And yes that was not a nice statement on my part but people are way judgmental and until you live the life, I say keep your negative remarks to your self. And honestly until I read your last statement and the rudeness of it, I was going to apologize bc I thought you were referring to the fact that these children will now be children of divorced parents. And yes while divorce can pose an emotionally problem, all children of divorced parents do not have problems. My parents are divorced, got divorced when I was 10, and honestly I would not change it for the world. Because of the situations that occurred by them getting a divorce, it made me who I am today and I would not change it.

 

[WillowBelle]

You say what you want to say, but I hope no one ever calls your children messed up for what ever reason. And yes that was not a nice statement on my part but people are way judgmental and until you live the life, I say keep your negative remarks to your self. And honestly until I read your last statement and the rudeness of it, I was going to apologize bc I thought you were referring to the fact that these children will now be children of divorced parents. And yes while divorce can pose an emotionally problem, all children of divorced parents do not have problems. My parents are divorced, got divorced when I was 10, and honestly I would not change it for the world. Because of the situations that occurred by them getting a divorce, it made me who I am today and I would not change it.

I didn't intend for what I wrote to be construte as a negative response, just an opinion/observation that I have made watching the show. I'm sure someone, somewhere along the way probably will say my kids are messed up....probably about the time that they are teens and supposed to be messed up while finding themselves and their place in the world.

I think statistically (and I did zero research) most kids are from a divorced set of parents and if they're not -- they have someone in their immediate family/friend circle who is a child of divorced parents. I have survived my parents divorce relatively intact. I see where they are both happier apart which means that I am a happier child. No kids want to see their parents argue, etc. At least none that I know.

As for being judgemental - that was not my intetion whatsoever. Just being predictive about the future of these kids once the lights are tuned off and the cameras go away and real 'reality' sets in -- they are going to have some serious adjusting to do. Hopefully J&K watch for the signs and get the kids professional help as soon as it's warranted!

 

[CC12005]

I think that shows alot of insight as to why they are where they are right now. Everyone keeps blaming their show for causing their problems....what about all of the other thousands of couples who get a divorce that don't have a show or fame. I think this was about starting a family and getting tons of responsibility before Jon had a chance to live the young life. From what I saw last night alot of this seems to be Jon just wants some freedom. I saw this with a friend of mine who has 5 kids....her husband told her this parent thing was alot harder than he expected and he didn't really want all of the responsiblity right then.....early onset of MID LIFE CRISIS.

After watching it last night it bugs me that everyone keeps saying how horrible she is and this is all her fault....I saw a man who needs to grow up and man up!!! Not to say she doesn't hold some responsibility.

While I don't think the show is too blame I do think they need to stop the show....those kids don't need to have their broken family played out for all to see.

Yay! Someone else who sees Jon was too young when he started and needs to suck it up & be a man for his family now. It also bugs me that it's all blamed on Kate. He actively made decisions to marry & have kids, too. She didn't "accidently" get pregnant and rope him into it. I only saw the last 10-15 mins. of the show, but the part that made me the saddest was when Jon was stating that "since he wasn't going to be seeing his kids as much now"... Suck it up Jon, go through counseling & work on growing up, not sowing your wild oats. How sad to be able to walk away from your 8 kids to go play & leave Kate with 8 young children to raise.

 

[Adi12982]

After watching it last night it bugs me that everyone keeps saying how horrible she is and this is all her fault....I saw a man who needs to grow up and man up!!! Not to say she doesn't hold some responsibility.

While I don't think the show is too blame I do think they need to stop the show....those kids don't need to have their broken family played out for all to see.

I agree completely. I NEVER thought I would take Kate's side. . . I always thought she was a bit too hard on him, bossy, etc. But seriously, I think he has a lot of growing up to do and needs to learn that there are consequences to actions. I am also really frustrated he won't talk to her about his issues, but jumps straight to divorce.

I thought the episode was quite depressing. I so feel for the kids, as a child of divorce I know some of what it is like, though for them it will all be so blown up since they are on TV and there are so many of them. I pray things go well for them and that even if they don't get some help or counseling for themselves that they will for the children to be able to deal/cope and have someone to talk to off camera.

I don't think it was the shows fault completely - The duggars have been on TV way longer and they are still together, the roloff's too. . . I think it has to do with how they have acted/reacted in their new situation.

 

[Adi12982]

Ybut the part that made me the saddest was when Jon was stating that "since he wasn't going to be seeing his kids as much now"...

What got me worse than that was when he said he was sad but also excited to start a new chapter in his life - EXCITED?!?!?! SERIOUSLY?!?!?!

 

[nunzia]

she had a tummy tuck a long time ago, it was on the show. A woman that watched the shows husband did it...and then another person felt sorry that jon didn't get anything done, so they got him hair plugs.

g o o d g r i e f

 

[ceecee]

WHERE'S Dr. Phil when you need him!!!
I just wondered why counseling was never mentioned? They have 8 good reasons to stay together.
My DD said they lied to the kids and said they would never separate when they renewed their vows in Hawaii, I didn't watch that episode so I don't know.

 

[NotUrsula]

Looks like Kate got another perk paid for by the show, too, sure looks like new ****s to me!

She did. It was done at the same time as the tummy tuck; they mentioned it.

What they didn't mention was the rhinoplasty that she also appears to have had -- if you look at the old "before" photos when she had brown hair, her nose was much more up-tilted; now it's perfectly aquiline.

The truth is that this show was about to run its course anyway, the kids were getting older and losing their cuteness factor. The "will they or won't they" factor was the draw this season, and now that's gone, too. I'm sure that TLC got several faxes today from sponsors who are choosing not to renew their ad buys.

BTW, they *do* have a mortgage on the house, in fact, on both houses, as the old one has not yet sold. They said so in an EW interview that is available on the web. I'm thinking that the new house will be up for sale shortly, too, unless she can pay for it from the book proceeds.

The usual payment arrangement for shows involving children is that they are not directly paid; the money is normally put in trust for them. They cannot own real estate at their ages, so the money cannot be used to buy a house unless the trust owns it. Whatever the parents made is theirs, but I suspect the bulk of the cash that TLC paid went to the kids.

Anyone else care to bet that there is a ghostwriter already at work on the story of how traumatic the divorce was? Kate is going to have to depend on the book income now that the TV money is gone; speaking engagements will be the only spotlight left to her. (If you think she's ever putting scrubs on again, rethink. She's addicted to the spotlight now. It won't be long before the kids get a nanny and Kate will be on the motivational speaking circuit full-time.)

 

[Faith09]

Yay! Someone else who sees Jon was too young when he started and needs to suck it up & be a man for his family now. It also bugs me that it's all blamed on Kate. He actively made decisions to marry & have kids, too. She didn't "accidently" get pregnant and rope him into it. I only saw the last 10-15 mins. of the show, but the part that made me the saddest was when Jon was stating that "since he wasn't going to be seeing his kids as much now"... Suck it up Jon, go through counseling & work on growing up, not sowing your wild oats. How sad to be able to walk away from your 8 kids to go play & leave Kate with 8 young children to raise.

My point as well. Nicely stated!!!

 

[richmond282]

Its amazing to me that you would admit that! Then again, if your like her, you will probably love the attention I just gave you.....feel sorry for your hubby. Im assuming he is also an adult and probably could figure out if your kids needed napkins.

I have to wonder, I used to think the show Bridezilla was just a put on, that women like that really didnt exsist, and treat their supposed soul mates like they do on that show....but lately after reading on here and other boards...Im starting to think its real! How scary is that!

Wow! That was rude. I can't believe you would post something like that.

As for J & K, I think there's blame on both sides. Jon is extremely immature and lazy. He always has been (at least what I've seen of the show.) He does seem to be going through some sort of mid-life crisis. I don't buy any of that bull about him being "too young" when they got married. Kate is bossy and has a short fuse. I'm not excusing her actions, but she does have 9 kids to deal with (including Jon til now). I think it was a lethal combination of personalities. The show didn't help at all. I reserve judgement on the kids. Hopefully, J & K will be amicable to each other for their kids sake.

 

[kellia]

They have a mortgage on the houses?? Can someone please explain how you can make almost $1 million an EPISODE and need to have a mortgage? I mean, the new house was "only" (lol!!) a little over $1 million. After all of the TLC money, book proceeds, money for speaking and interviews, not to mention all of the free stuff they've gotten (clothes, appliances, etc, not counting trips) they had certainly not be complaining about money! With that amount of money, they should all be set for life, at least financially.

I feel bad for the kids. I can't imagine having your childhood and parent's divorce broadcast for the world to see. It always reminded me of "The Truman Show". I think both of the parents are pretty immature and got themselves in over their heads. Also think they just bring out the worst in each other. She is controlling and OCD, he's lazy, not a good combination, especially when you throw in 8 kids.

 

[mrsklamc]

They're in a cycle; he acts like a child, she treats him like a child. If one of them quit I would guess that in time the other would quit as well...

But, they aren't going to give it time, because THEIR happiness is more important than their kids, no matter what they claim.

It irritates me that they both say they don't want a divorce. Well, duh. If neither one of you wants a divorce, then you should get some counseling and try to work it out.

 

[CTdiznymom]

I remember on one of their earlier shows they wrote a family mission statement. Maybe they should pull it out and read it. I feel very badly that it has come to this. They claim to have done everything for their kids. Their kids aren't going to give a hoot about all the stuff if they have to pay this high a price for it all. I was really hoping they would go on hiatus and seek counseling. What a shame.

 

[PaMom001]

The alluded to it throughout the show and then at the end, before the credits, there was a board that said "On June 22, 2009, Jon and Kate filed papers to dissolve their ten year marriage"

I guess that's what happens when you think you're a "movie star"....

They started the show to make money to support their children (guess neither of them thought of this before using AI to get prego w/twins and then sextuplets).

Obviously, the "fame" went to both their heads and Jon thinks it's OK to have an affair with a girl 10 years younger than him and Kate thinks it's OK to have an affair with her security guy.

They forgot that it was "all about the kids" and put their own selfish needs ahead of what was best for those 8 kids.

Some photos in a magazine, and people saying that they saw Jon & the woman kissing does not make an affair. When people see $$ dangled before their eyes, they'll say almost anything. I'm not saying he did or didn't have an affair, there is not enough proof for me. Only when someone reliable(meaning, Jon admits it) confirms the affair, I'm not going to believe it. After putting up with her, I don't really blame him.

I lived through my own divorce. My ex had 2 affairs, one of them was before our daughter was even a year old. The second one started when she was 1 & 1/2 years old.

Can I just say did you notice Jon's new pierced ears...they were sparkly last night.

I noticed those, too.

 

[DMRick]

And now we have them making $1 million a show LOL. Try $25,000 - $75,000. Divide that by 2 (because of taxes) and we can only hope it was divided among 10 (some for the kids..we don't know if it is, or isn't but I assume some would be put away for them, since trusts were mentioned when they wrote their wills). We're down to $1250 - $3750 each. Now take out the million.one mortgage payment, and the property tax, utilities, and all the other incidentals, such as food, medical insurance, home owners insurance.

That's why this house, and the old house have a mortgage. Even though I may have estimated way low, it's not a million dollars clear each episode...not even near it.

They have a mortgage on the houses?? Can someone please explain how you can make almost $1 million an EPISODE and need to have a mortgage? I mean, the new house was "only" (lol!!) a little over $1 million.

 

[Mad4Mickey]

Does anyone else think Jon needs to stop blowing boogers and slinging snot and man up ?
Yeah she may not have always been easy to live with but gimme a break if I had to live with that his lazy butt I would not have been nice to him either

 

[tkitty]

They said on TV that they make 75,000 per episode. Sure thats a huge amount, but far from 1,000,000 per episode.
I always felt a bit bad for Jon, as he would seem to get belittled by Kate. But IMO, he pushed her to it, in so far as Kate had to step up and be the boss. With 8 kids, she had to become extremely organised, picky, and try to keep things in running smoothly. As the show has gone on, Jon seems to have taken less responsibility. Sure, he's trying to not rock the boat, because he knows he'll lose, so he just sort of gave up.
I feel so bad that it hasn't worked out for them, and surprised that they didn't add marriage counseling visits to the show. I don't get the feeling that Jon wants to try to make it work out, and Kate, being stubborn, will accept the divorce, and try to do it all herself. It sounds like they will try to continue the show, and I know I will watch, no matter how it ends up.
I have grown to love this show, and watching the kids grow up. This is reality TV for real, no happy endings promised.

 

[tessiesevin]

What got me worse than that was when he said he was sad but also excited to start a new chapter in his life - EXCITED?!?!?! SERIOUSLY?!?!?!

REALLY!!!!!!! I felt her pain. I have nothing bad to say about her actions last night. When she said she doesn't want to be alone was so sad And he said he is EXCITED to start a new chapter!!! I was discusted! I think he new what he wanted before they even separated. I think Kate hoped for a different outcome. When she said he dosen't even want to talk to her killed me. I understand she was a bit controlling but she didn't wake up one morning and decited to take control.

I noticed from earlier eposodes how he wanted nothing to do with her. It's as if she did something to him. I really fell so sad for her because you could see so much of her pain and not so much his.