Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 8

[madge]

(and I really doubt she would get hired anywhere right now as a nurse)

ironically, when Kate was on The View the first time, she spoke about something medically related. She sounded more confident and credible than any other thing I've heard her say.

 

[susykt4]

I want Kate to come and do my job! I'm a zookeeper. I'd like to see her shovel 100 pounds of rhino poo into a wheelbarrow and keep her perfectly manicured nails. It would be even better if she'd do it in heels. I'd like to watch her scream when the lions charge the bars, roaring and jumping at her.

But alas, I'm a married mother of two who doesn't really have a lot of trouble balancing fulltime work and parenthood. Even without nannies and cleaning people and any other household help, I can't imagine what advice she could give me other than to get the aforementioned help.

 

[DMRick]

Now that show, I would watch. Let me know if you get picked for her to help out LOL.
I've done my fair share of cleaning up dog and car poo..but I don't think that's as good as rhino poo. Would picking maggots off a rabbit's infected sore come close (yucky).

I want Kate to come and do my job! I'm a zookeeper. I'd like to see her shovel 100 pounds of rhino poo into a wheelbarrow and keep her perfectly manicured nails. It would be even better if she'd do it in heels. I'd like to watch her scream when the lions charge the bars, roaring and jumping at her.

But alas, I'm a married mother of two who doesn't really have a lot of trouble balancing fulltime work and parenthood. Even without nannies and cleaning people and any other household help, I can't imagine what advice she could give me other than to get the aforementioned help.

 

[susykt4]

Would picking maggots off a rabbit's infected sore come close (yucky).

EWWWW! I worked at a vet's office for several years between zoo jobs. I think maggots were my least favorite thing! I wonder... Since Kate's a former nurse, could she stomach maggots? Oh wait, after the "bug zoo" episode I'm thinking no.

 

[OhMari]

I wonder how the kids feel about starting up the show again? I suppose it depends on how Kate spun it for them...saying that they'll get to do all the fun things they used to because of the show. Maybe now they can take that trip to the Statue of Liberty! Seriously though, I am curious to see just how many Kate+8 specials there will be. I'm sure it will be a test for TLC, to see how many viewers tune in and then if the ratings are up, the show will go full force. Then she won't have do her other show Twisted Kate. Which sounds ridiculous anyway. Hey, maybe for her new show, I'll send her a letter talking about how she's so inspiring and then she can come to my house, be a stay at home mom, homeschool my kids, run them to ballet and piano and field trips! I'm sure she'll offer lots of insight!

She probably gets to choose which letters she wants to answer, or TLC will give her the answers. If she sees one she doesn't like, she will say, "I'm not answering that."

Someone mentioned about Kate laying low.
They haven't recorded anything since last September.
So Kate has been sort of laying low.
Actually there has been no pictures at all of them anywhere.
Just the before/after school, and going to the store pictures.
Makes you wonder if TLC was actually taking the pictures and selling them to the tabloids.

 

[madge]

Someone mentioned about Kate laying low.
They haven't recorded anything since last September.
So Kate has been sort of laying low.
Actually there has been no pictures at all of them anywhere.
Just the before/after school, and going to the store pictures.
Makes you wonder if TLC was actually taking the pictures and selling them to the tabloids.

by laying low, I mean not working .. I don't believe Kate wasn't working all this time, even if they weren't filming.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I want Kate to come and do my job! I'm a zookeeper. I'd like to see her shovel 100 pounds of rhino poo into a wheelbarrow and keep her perfectly manicured nails. It would be even better if she'd do it in heels. I'd like to watch her scream when the lions charge the bars, roaring and jumping at her.

But alas, I'm a married mother of two who doesn't really have a lot of trouble balancing fulltime work and parenthood. Even without nannies and cleaning people and any other household help, I can't imagine what advice she could give me other than to get the aforementioned help.

But they already tried that with Paris Hilton, didn't they?

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

From a DWTS judge regarding Kate:

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/dwts-judge-kate-gosselin-is-crap/38818

Funny--but I kind of agree with her.

Compare how they treated Buzz (who scored very similarly and was bad but in a different way) versus her.

I don't think the talent should have to "earn" the respect of the judges based on their "real world" celebrity status.

Carrie Ann--IMHO seems rather disgusted with Kate.

While the scores seem appropriate to the quality of dance--I have found them to be unnecessarily nasty to Kate at times compared to how they have treated other sucky people on the show.

At least Bruno hasn't been "mean" IMHO--he's always been honest..but with pizazz and flair. He didn't say anything knew in this article that he wouldn't say on the show--he brings a funny air to it and does spin it around positive. He's Paula and Simon combined.

I was rewatching some segments today from tivo...and after one of the dances (I don't recall which one)--

The other dancers stand and watch and then they go to the fish bowl or whatever they call it. A camera shot went back and on cue the celebs turn to the right to reenter....I guess one celeb didn't go fast enough for Kate--b/c with a very stern expression, Kate taps on that celebs back as if to say "get your butt moving". I found that very...weird. I get if someone does it in a silly way, but Kate did look very...stern that the celeb took an extra second to get going.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

ok. I've read the press releases for Kate's new show....

"In this new series, Kate Gosselin travels around the country to find out how other people juggle work, family and all the other challenges life throws at them," TLC said in its announcement.

While I've been all for Kate making her own way without the children on TV, this doesn't sound like the right project. Obviously, TLC disagrees. We'll see what the American people have to say.

Also, this show doesn't sound like something that's going to keep Kate close to home. I wonder if Jon will be allowed custody while she travels?

and it seems to me that Kate Gosselin might stay closer to home for a while and create some stability to help out her own family instead of trekking off to help others.

Seems a bit of the Simple Life--where Paris Hilton goes out of her element to see how people in the real world live.


(yes, that was a very casual blow at Kate. Yes, I can dish it.)


I am a bit over folks judging Kate for having a job that travels. Folks in the real world do this all the time. Heck, my DH travels much and I know a few people (including my BIL) where they travel during the week and only are home on weekends.

But that isn't considered "wrong" by society.

I don't get it other than it seems that Kate is judged b/c she is Kate and held to a much higher standard than anyone else.

One thing a show of that type does--it allows Kate to be on tv and keeps the cameras away from the children. (on her own show obviously--not the update shows).

 

[Promomx2]

I think we should all write Kate's new show and see if anyone of us get picked for Kate to come give us advice, then we would really get to see her and be able to report about her.

 

[Lisa loves Pooh]

I think we should all write Kate's new show and see if anyone of us get picked for Kate to come give us advice, then we would really get to see her and be able to report about her.

There is no way that I would subject myself to public scrutiny by daring to appear on television with my kids and my parenting skills.

Plus, Kate my very well think she walked into a pen at the zoo. I'm still trying to get back to normal after the disastrous two months of hyperemisis where I coudln't do a darn thing. My poor house.

Kate would likely consult her attorneys that it was not in her contract to enter such a horrible residence.

 

[DVCisME]

I think that there are three things in particular about Kate traveling so much that bothers people. The first being how she preached how one parent should always be home. The second that she does not seem to spend much time with them when she is home. The third being that she acts like she is home ALL the time.

 

[talulabelle]

I think that there are three things in particular about Kate traveling so much that bothers people. The first being how she preached how one parent should always be home. The second that she does not seem to spend much time with them when she is home. The third being that she acts like she is home ALL the time.

You're right. She acted very holier than thou back when she used to constantly say "My children will NEVER have a nanny" "One parent will ALWAYS be at home with them" etc. It was hurtful to people who couldn't be at home with their kids, and would like to. Now she is playing up the role of breadwinner, and "I have to work, I have kids to support" (but maybe they don't need to be supported to that level at the loss of losing all parents at home) Kate is a big "role player" contantly reinventing herself and believing the crap that comes out of her own mouth. She used to be good at playing the role of the poor Christian family that spoke at churches and begged for hand outs. Once that wasn't enough for her, that Christianity went right out the door. Now she is believing her role as a entertainment personality. I wonder what is next.

 

[DMRick]

I think that there are three things in particular about Kate traveling so much that bothers people. The first being how she preached how one parent should always be home. The second that she does not seem to spend much time with them when she is home. The third being that she acts like she is home ALL the time.

I don't know about the second, because well, I have no way of knowing, and I hope she is spending time (when not on DWTS) with them, as she does seem to enjoy them, but I think you are right about 1 & 2. I think at one time she beleived the first. And I think she still believes the second.

You're right. She acted very holier than thou back when she used to constantly say "My children will NEVER have a nanny" "One parent will ALWAYS be at home with them" etc. It was hurtful to people who couldn't be at home with their kids, and would like to. Now she is playing up the role of breadwinner, and "I have to work, I have kids to support" (but maybe they don't need to be supported to that level at the loss of losing all parents at home) Kate is a big "role player" contantly reinventing herself and believing the crap that comes out of her own mouth. She used to be good at playing the role of the poor Christian family that .

I think you are also right, and that is why those that don't like her, don't. I think she made a lot of people feel guilty. I do think she believes herself, that she had planned on being home, when all she had was the show. Then the talks and the book writing went on. Nothing wrong with that, except for what you wrote above. One of the kids parents was always going to be home.
Circumstances have changed for her, but the above started to change while there were two parents. I do beleive things started going wrong way before we that watched the show believed. I think those that think she can't act were wrong. I think the last couple of seasons was acting between her and John.
I do believe she absolutely believes what she says is true, that she needs the money, etc. While I can't pretend to know how much money is left after the lawyers are paid, and the money was split up, I'd like to think that either there is still some money, or I can hope it's tied up in accounts for the kids that they can no longer get to. Maybe that is why the drive to work so hard. Or, she's afraid she'll be forgotten about and once the money is gone, she won't have any more of these opportunities.

 

[rileyroosmom]

I don't understand all this Kate bashing going on. I understand it was very clear years ago that she would never have a nanny and one parent would always be at home. However, haven't all of you voiced your negative view on something and have it come back to bite you? I don't know one person (myself included) who didn't shoot her mouth off before kids, how "my kids will never act like that, etc." Also, I was married for 16 years before my ex walked out on me. In those 16 years I said, "I will never work, my kids won't stay in the afterschool program, I'd never be a working mom, blah, blah" Guess what? Situations change and now I work and my kids are in the program blah blah.

What is different about Kate than say a very successful business woman who is single and has to go out of town on business? That woman relies on a nanny, yet no one thinks poorly of the woman. Why can't Kate be given the same regard? She isn't leaving the kids alone, she isn't in bars, she isn't leaving them with a 12 year old.

Kate got a taste of "the good life" and she is trying to hang on to it. I'm trying to hang on to my life too. I don't live like Kate, but my ex provided for us pretty well. I live in a nice home, with a new car and we vacationed yearly. I'm trying hard not to let that go. I could sell my house and cars, and I may have to someday, but until then I'm hanging on and why, "for my kids" It's not fair to them that we leave their home and friends and move to a smaller house/apartment. Kate feels her kids deserve and need their house/school and she doesn't want things to change.

I applaud her for doing what ever it takes to make a buck. She is doing nothing wrong in my opinion. Jon is a looser. He was when they were filming and he's a bigger one now. Kate should give him temporary custody of those kids. He'd have them back in a heart beat. He just doesn't want to pay for them. He should be the one out there hustling and doing what it takes to provide for those kids.

My rant is over. I can't read this thread anymore because it makes me angry to see how people criticize someone who is down. You don't have to like Kate as a person or the things that she has done. But, give the women some credit for trying to keep it all together.

 

[DMRick]

I agree with everything you said. However, I do understand why those who don't like Kate feel why they do (I don't agree, I happen to think like you, that stuff happens and things change. I don't happen to think she is a bad person, although I did hope she could make it without the kids on TV). Because she did say those things, and she was very public about it, people remember and want to make her live up to what she said. However, at the time I think she meant it. I still think she means what she says. Some of it may be wishful thinking.

Please come back, not everyone on this thread is against Kate. I've already admitted I plan on watching the specials. I don't like the kids hearing all the garbage about thier parents, but I'd be lying if I didn't say that I think the kids enjoy doing the shows.

I don't understand all this Kate bashing going on. I understand it was very clear years ago that she would never have a nanny and one parent would always be at home. However, haven't all of you voiced your negative view on something and have it come back to bite you? I don't know one person (myself included) who didn't shoot her mouth off before kids, how "my kids will never act like that, etc." Also, I was married for 16 years before my ex walked out on me. In those 16 years I said, "I will never work, my kids won't stay in the afterschool program, I'd never be a working mom, blah, blah" Guess what? Situations change and now I work and my kids are in the program blah blah.

What is different about Kate than say a very successful business woman who is single and has to go out of town on business? That woman relies on a nanny, yet no one thinks poorly of the woman. Why can't Kate be given the same regard? She isn't leaving the kids alone, she isn't in bars, she isn't leaving them with a 12 year old.

Kate got a taste of "the good life" and she is trying to hang on to it. I'm trying to hang on to my life too. I don't live like Kate, but my ex provided for us pretty well. I live in a nice home, with a new car and we vacationed yearly. I'm trying hard not to let that go. I could sell my house and cars, and I may have to someday, but until then I'm hanging on and why, "for my kids" It's not fair to them that we leave their home and friends and move to a smaller house/apartment. Kate feels her kids deserve and need their house/school and she doesn't want things to change.

I applaud her for doing what ever it takes to make a buck. She is doing nothing wrong in my opinion. Jon is a looser. He was when they were filming and he's a bigger one now. Kate should give him temporary custody of those kids. He'd have them back in a heart beat. He just doesn't want to pay for them. He should be the one out there hustling and doing what it takes to provide for those kids.

My rant is over. I can't read this thread anymore because it makes me angry to see how people criticize someone who is down. You don't have to like Kate as a person or the things that she has done. But, give the women some credit for trying to keep it all together.

 

[DVCisME]

I don't understand all this Kate bashing going on. I understand it was very clear years ago that she would never have a nanny and one parent would always be at home. However, haven't all of you voiced your negative view on something and have it come back to bite you? I don't know one person (myself included) who didn't shoot her mouth off before kids, how "my kids will never act like that, etc." Also, I was married for 16 years before my ex walked out on me. In those 16 years I said, "I will never work, my kids won't stay in the afterschool program, I'd never be a working mom, blah, blah" Guess what? Situations change and now I work and my kids are in the program blah blah.

What is different about Kate than say a very successful business woman who is single and has to go out of town on business? That woman relies on a nanny, yet no one thinks poorly of the woman. Why can't Kate be given the same regard? She isn't leaving the kids alone, she isn't in bars, she isn't leaving them with a 12 year old.

Kate got a taste of "the good life" and she is trying to hang on to it. I'm trying to hang on to my life too. I don't live like Kate, but my ex provided for us pretty well. I live in a nice home, with a new car and we vacationed yearly. I'm trying hard not to let that go. I could sell my house and cars, and I may have to someday, but until then I'm hanging on and why, "for my kids" It's not fair to them that we leave their home and friends and move to a smaller house/apartment. Kate feels her kids deserve and need their house/school and she doesn't want things to change.

I applaud her for doing what ever it takes to make a buck. She is doing nothing wrong in my opinion. Jon is a looser. He was when they were filming and he's a bigger one now. Kate should give him temporary custody of those kids. He'd have them back in a heart beat. He just doesn't want to pay for them. He should be the one out there hustling and doing what it takes to provide for those kids.

My rant is over. I can't read this thread anymore because it makes me angry to see how people criticize someone who is down. You don't have to like Kate as a person or the things that she has done. But, give the women some credit for trying to keep it all together.

I personally do have a problem with one not taking care of his/her children. Whether it be Kate, Jon, or a "successful business" person. A parent is someone who raises there children. From the looks of it it is the nanny, and I would feel that way about anyone.

 

[rileyroosmom]

I personally do have a problem with one not taking care of his/her children. Whether it be Kate, Jon, or a "successful business" person. A parent is someone who raises there children. From the looks of it it is the nanny, and I would feel that way about anyone.

She is raising her children! She is gone 3 days a week for DWTS. She has a dance studio in her home. Who sits with their children 24/7? Part of raising your children is providing monetarily for them, that means a job. The funny thing to me is, Kate would still have to have a nanny/day care provider to take care of her kids if she was working as a nurse/McDonald's employee/secretary. What ever she works at, someone has to be with those kids while she works 10 hours (allowing commute time) and all summer and school vacations. That doesn't mean she (and every other working mother, single or not) isn't raising them. She is providing for them best she can.

Honestly, if someone gave me $200,000 to come and dance, I might do it to. For those of you without a spouse/and a job, and kids to raise, thank your lucky stars each night because until you have been there you have no idea about it.

 

[DMRick]

Honestly, if someone gave me $200,000 to come and dance, I might do it to.

I know I would, and then you guys would think Kate was a great dancer LOL.

For those of you without a spouse/and a job, and kids to raise, thank your lucky stars each night because until you have been there you have no idea about it.

You know, I forgot about summer and school vacations, when people talk about her going back to nursing (and the chances that she would even get day hours as a newbie in a place is almost laughable). You are right..by the time she paid for a nanny for 8 kids while she works as a nurse, she very well might as well not work. At this time, she doesn't have a responsible other parent to watch them. We have a friend who recently adopted two boys from China (one with a cleft palate (found in a basket on the side of the road) and one with only one arm, which is prob why she was able to adopt boys) and they are in day car full time, from 7 am to 5 pm. She's a wonderful mother, but yet she is not with her kids full time. Both her and her husband work full time. Is that a bad thing?

 

[kidshop]

I know I would, and then you guys would think Kate was a great dancer LOL.


You know, I forgot about summer and school vacations, when people talk about her going back to nursing (and the chances that she would even get day hours as a newbie in a place is almost laughable). You are right..by the time she paid for a nanny for 8 kids while she works as a nurse, she very well might as well not work. At this time, she doesn't have a responsible other parent to watch them. We have a friend who recently adopted two boys from China (one with a cleft palate (found in a basket on the side of the road) and one with only one arm, which is prob why she was able to adopt boys) and they are in day car full time, from 7 am to 5 pm. She's a wonderful mother, but yet she is not with her kids full time. Both her and her husband work full time. Is that a bad thing?

Does your friend go around saying how hard she works, how much she is sacrificing and everything she does is for the kids? Does she go on and on about having to put food on the table, and how she has to work although she would rather be home baking cookies. (while having a staff of nannies, personal assistants, household help and a bodyguard)?

Why is Jon not a responsible parent?