Jon and Kate Plus 8 Official Thread - Part 6

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Great post--totally agree!!!
I also think Kate is selfish. She is the type of person where it will never be enough for her. No matter how many vacations, trips and freebies they get, she will want more. This show has taken a 180 degree turn from when it started. Gone are the trips to local spots like Hershey Park to SanDiego for a pedicure. This is so unrealistic for a large family (I forgot, she only travels with a few of the kids now and minis Jon).
I hope they both wake up and try to salvage whats left of that family. Anyone who believes that those kids love the camera are sorely mistaken.
So the Gosselin's have 8 kids--lots of families of 8 kids or more. What's so special about there life that it warrents a tv show. It was interesting when they were a whole family and the kids were small, but they are growing up and time to end this train wreck. Hopefully Mommy & Daddy saved more than $75,000 for college.
Unless someone creates a reject show for failed reality show stars, Jon & Kate might have to hit the job market.

I'm curious (and no snark intended:goodvibes) but you used to like the show right? Did you think the kids were exploited back then? If not, then what changed it for you? :confused3
 
Hailey definitely has a jealous streak -- this is the 3rd article I've seen stating that she's upset Jon didn't take her to Vegas. IMO, Jon was absolutely right to take his mother instead of her -- any mature woman would have been ok with that. All the rest of it is just fluff. She is obviously too immature to deal with this relationship, and the only reason it's worked out so far is that he was in need of a less serious relationship -- no kids, no house, no finances, no show. It also seems that she loved the glamour of hanging out with a celebrity but can't handle the rest of the baggage that comes with that.

Whatever -- she will always be "transitional girl" to me -- this relationship is doomed.
 
I think Jon's interview where he said he loves Hailey more than he ever loved Kate was the kiss of death. How many celebrity relationships have been jinxed by similar statements? :-)
 
Hailey definitely has a jealous streak -- this is the 3rd article I've seen stating that she's upset Jon didn't take her to Vegas. IMO, Jon was absolutely right to take his mother instead of her -- any mature woman would have been ok with that. All the rest of it is just fluff. She is obviously too immature to deal with this relationship, and the only reason it's worked out so far is that he was in need of a less serious relationship -- no kids, no house, no finances, no show. It also seems that she loved the glamour of hanging out with a celebrity but can't handle the rest of the baggage that comes with that.

Whatever -- she will always be "transitional girl" to me -- this relationship is doomed.

I agree with Hailey being a transitional girl. Jon seems like the type who doesn't like to be alone (Jerry Maguire!). However, I don't think that her being upset with him is unwarranted. Who wants a boyfriend that flirts with young girls, takes their phone # and pictures? Not me. Personally if Hailey kicks him to the curb, I'll think she has more sense than I gave her credit for, a little.
 

I agree with Hailey being a transitional girl. Jon seems like the type who doesn't like to alone (Jerry Maguire!). However, I don't think that her being upset with with is unwarranted. Who wants a boyfriend that flirts with young girls, takes their phone # and pictures? Not me. Personally if Hailey kicks him to the curb, I'll think she has more sense than I gave her credit for.

I agree, Jon has given her reason to be upset.
 
I think Jon's interview where he said he loves Hailey more than he ever loved Kate was the kiss of death. How many celebrity relationships have been jinxed by similar statements? :-)


My sediments exactly! I wonder what his kids are going to think in 10 years when they google that coming out of his mouth!:scared1: He doesn't love Kate anymore fine but to publicly denounce your love for her, or lack their of, is ridiculous! :headache:I would kill my dh if ever told my step kids he loves me more than he ever did their mother!:mad: Even though he may feel that way HE SHOULD KEEP IT TO HIMSELF! His whole dumb *** attitude just shows how clueless he really is!:eek:
 
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I love George Takei - "of course I love kids, have you seen my girlfriend?"
 
Give me a break! Many moms are not "morning persons" but you do what you have to do. I had 7 kids without full time child help and yeah it was very tiring. BTW for one year I was on chemotherapy and still managed to get it together to get my kids up, fed and dressed for school.

But she had a husband willing to be a big help in the evening and in the morning. So, is it bad that she let him? Jon seemed perfectly OK with it when he talked about it in the show. I figure it was great time for him with his kids. My husband worked 3-11. He was a morning person. He loved getting up with the kids in the morning. He got to spend time with them..and they are his kids too. Nope, I see nothing wrong with him spending time with his kids and letting her have some time to herself at the same time. Lucky for me my husband appreciated all I did during the day when I wasn't working outside of the house (he helped me even more when I was working, once the kids were a bit older), and was more than willing to spend time with our kids, and help me at the same time.
As I posted earlier, I assume since she now has more help, she may not be as tired, and is able to get up earlier. Once your kids are bigger, you may also have more time to yourself in the morning.

The clothes and vacations are not just freebee's. They would be part of their pay. Good beneifts, but if you want to believe it was work or not, they would be part of their job.
From what I've heard it's not unheard of for someone who has been treated the way Jon was to go crazy for awhile.
Maybe..but I happen to think we are seeing the Jon that was Jon before they got married. The free spirit that roamed Europe with a backpack. He certainly has made it clear that he didn't want all of these kids, but he's had no problem spending the money they all earn (J & K plus the kids). I do think his PR people are finally getting trhough to him though.
And I don't want to hear how she has to do this for the kids. We managed to raise all of our kids without any free rides, put the older ones through college and even, although it would kill Kate, to pay for our own vacations, trips and kids clothes!

I managed to raise mine too, but if I had been offered an oportunity to make my kids set for life, not have to take out student and parent loans for college, not have to think about money when planning vacations, had a house with lots of land, I prob would have grabbed it. I would hope I would have done things a little differently than what it appears they are doing, but unless I walk in their shoes, I really don't know all of what is or has gone on. We see what TLC wants us to see at this time.

Just a head's up for anyone that has to go shopping..just back from grocery shopping. Not a thing to read in the tabloids on J & K while waiting in line. Other celebrities kids were on the covers this week..pretty boring wait in line.
 
The whole spoof reminds me that these people have made way too many public mistakes. Yes, she's spoofing the hairdo and the bikini, but the nasty stuff was taken from their real lives too -- not like parodying somebody like William Shatner and the way he talked in Star Trek, for example, and that never gets old but it really is just harmless.

So, my advice for J & K:
First, Jon, shut up! Just shut up -- you've had your say and that went fine, so now just shut up. Play with the kids in the back yard. Stay in your apt when you're in NY. Tell your friends to shut up too. Don't say anything about the show, but quietly get out of it -- and shut up about it -- even if you're trying to get your kids out of the show, say nothing and let the courts handle it. And demand that the other house be sold. Heck, you may even want to go back to school, but otherwise get a real job and show your kids what their lives are really going to be like when they grow up. In summary, I don't care what you wear, or what you drive, just be smart and shut up and lay low until your kids grow up.

Now, Kate, this is harder. Sure, try doing the View, but if it doesn't work out, give up. Stop turning everything you do with your kids into a photo opp and stop talking about Jon -- just stop. I know you can't stay away from the cameras, but we've heard everything you could possibly say about Jon -- it's getting repetitive and it's now overkill. Yes, we know you don't like him, but find something else to talk about. And stop fighting this divorce in public. You want control of the money, the house and full custody of the kids, but it may not work out that way -- wait until you've been to court because public opinion is really not going to have any bearing on what the judge decides.

Whew -- I feel better now.
 
Ok, I have to admit I've been keeping something from all of you. I had a Kate-moment the other day. :scared1:

My DH stupidly let my DD take her starter earrings out when we were at the trailer (against my advice) and then forgot to bring them with us when we came back to town. Tuesday, I told DH to meet me at the mall to get some new ones -- he didn't. He went shopping on his own and bought some very hideous plastic ones to replace them for double the cost of the original ones at a place where you can't get exchanges or refunds. His excuse was that they were just temporary -- we'll be back at the trailer in just 2 weeks. I just couldn't believe the words that came out of my mouth as soon as I said them: "you are never to go shopping for her by yourself again" :scared1::scared1::scared1:

Of course, I was right. But I still can't believe that I said that.

End of confession. Back to Jon and Kate.
 
Kathy Griffin is awesome. Her Kate parody was hilarious.

Okay, so I watched the Jon interview on Primetime the other night. Surely I cannot be the only person that thought he looked/acted/sounded kind of crazy, right? His eyes were very buggy and he could not sit still and his voice was all strained and weird. He was talking really fast and not even thinking about the things John Cuomo was saying. I thought maybe he was acting a little speed jiggy, frankly. :yay: He looked like he wanted to jump out of his own skin.

My opinion, of course.
 
Ok, I have to admit I've been keeping something from all of you. I had a Kate-moment the other day. :scared1:

My DH stupidly let my DD take her starter earrings out when we were at the trailer (against my advice) and then forgot to bring them with us when we came back to town. Tuesday, I told DH to meet me at the mall to get some new ones -- he didn't. He went shopping on his own and bought some very hideous plastic ones to replace them for double the cost of the original ones at a place where you can't get exchanges or refunds. His excuse was that they were just temporary -- we'll be back at the trailer in just 2 weeks. I just couldn't believe the words that came out of my mouth as soon as I said them: "you are never to go shopping for her by yourself again" :scared1::scared1::scared1:

Of course, I was right. But I still can't believe that I said that.

End of confession. Back to Jon and Kate.

:lmao: I have just one question....how in the world do you get husband to go shopping? Mine has an aversion to stores, especially the mall. :rolleyes:
 
Ok, I have to admit I've been keeping something from all of you. I had a Kate-moment the other day. :scared1:

My DH stupidly let my DD take her starter earrings out when we were at the trailer (against my advice) and then forgot to bring them with us when we came back to town. Tuesday, I told DH to meet me at the mall to get some new ones -- he didn't. He went shopping on his own and bought some very hideous plastic ones to replace them for double the cost of the original ones at a place where you can't get exchanges or refunds. His excuse was that they were just temporary -- we'll be back at the trailer in just 2 weeks. I just couldn't believe the words that came out of my mouth as soon as I said them: "you are never to go shopping for her by yourself again" :scared1::scared1::scared1:

Of course, I was right. But I still can't believe that I said that.

End of confession. Back to Jon and Kate.


:rotfl:

The guys at work asked me the other day if I knew how mean I was. My response - "you think Kate Gosselin is mean? I'm way worse!". :rotfl2: They quit messing around and did what I asked. Sometimes it can work to your advantage!
 
I agree, Jon has given her reason to be upset.

Me too. I was surprised she didn't dump him after he went to the Hamptons with Kate Major. Then I was even more surprised when she didn't dump him after that girl (Santoro?) got caught sneaking out of his garage in the early morning hours in the same clothes she was wearing the night before. To me, taking his mom to Vegas was nothing, but why was it either or? People make it sound like he took his mom instead of Hailey, but she was probably just wondering why he didn't want her to come too.

I wonder if Hailey purposely waited to dump him until after the Primetime interview aired. Maybe knowing a little of what he said and how stupid he would look when she dumps in right after.
 
I'm curious (and no snark intended:goodvibes) but you used to like the show right? Did you think the kids were exploited back then? If not, then what changed it for you? :confused3

For me, the early specials and seasons were enjoyable. They gave the appearance of being real. They only did a few episodes a season, and who knew they were heading for 24/7 broadcasting of the kids entire lives. (I exaggerate, but you get the point). It was different then and gradually turned into a proud statement that 'The show is their life and their life is the show'. I had an uncomfortable realization that they were beholden to go along with what their parents had chosen, and it didn't seem what was best for the children was considered. It became clear the kids weren't filmed doing everyday stuff, but were now directed and staged by sponsors. There was no 'real' here.

And here we are today, with a broken family and sad kids still being filmed to earn money for their parents.
 
Don't anyone else read this please (LOL). I haven't commented on his interview because I thought everyone would think I was being team Kate, if I did. Just pretend I wrote the below. I thought he was like a little kid in school trying to get out all the tattling before the teacher asks the other kids who started the hitting LOL. It may just be that he had so much to say, but it's not like he hasn't also had a chance at the fenceline. I thought maybe he was on some medication.

Okay, so I watched the Jon interview on Primetime the other night. Surely I cannot be the only person that thought he looked/acted/sounded kind of crazy, right? His eyes were very buggy and he could not sit still and his voice was all strained and weird. He was talking really fast and not even thinking about the things John Cuomo was saying. I thought maybe he was acting a little speed jiggy, frankly. :yay: He looked like he wanted to jump out of his own skin.

My opinion, of course.
 
give me a break! Many moms are not "morning persons" but you do what you have to do. I had 7 kids without full time child help and yeah it was very tiring. Btw for one year i was on chemotherapy and still managed to get it together to get my kids up, fed and dressed for school.

It seems that kate is kate's first priority. While getting my with the kids wasn't a priority working out for herself is. I think she is one of the most incredibly selfish women i have ever seen. I think jon is acting like a jerk now, but i'm one of the ones who does believe kate was emotionally abusive. From what i've heard it's not unheard of for someone who has been treated the way jon was to go crazy for awhile.

Hopefully both of them will wake up, get the kids out of the public eye by quitting the show and for once focus totally on the kids.

And i don't want to hear how she has to do this for the kids. We managed to raise all of our kids without any free rides, put the older ones through college and even, although it would kill kate, to pay for our own vacations, trips and kids clothes!

well said!!!!
 
Don't anyone else read this please (LOL). I haven't commented on his interview because I thought everyone would think I was being team Kate, if I did. Just pretend I wrote the below. I thought he was like a little kid in school trying to get out all the tattling before the teacher asks the other kids who started the hitting LOL. It may just be that he had so much to say, but it's not like he hasn't also had a chance at the fenceline. I thought maybe he was on some medication.

I've been saying this all along. I still think he will go to rehab & go back to Kate in the end.
 
I'm curious (and no snark intended:goodvibes) but you used to like the show right? Did you think the kids were exploited back then? If not, then what changed it for you? :confused3

I liked the show in the beginning when they were babies and they showed their typical day getting them dressed, at the table, playing, etc......I saw a different side of Kate when Jodi gave the kids the gum and she was threatning to throw out one of the boys teddy bears. That broke my heart. After that I noticed that she was becoming meaner and they were constantly begging for money.

When Jody disappeared and people started writing articles about just how mean Kate was, it was a turn off. I always wondered where all the family and friends were, but the Jody incident set off flags. I liked when they went to Hershey Park and the pumpkin farm but when they took off to Utah and the never ending trips started along with the free toys and clothes, the show became unrealistic. I never saw the Hawaii episode (still haven't) because I thought that was really over the top. I have watched other reality shows and this one definately took a nose dive for me because of the way they got all these freebies and weren't grateful for them (at least thats the way they acted). In Jon's interview from Utah, he bragged about living off the Salvation Army and people's donations all the while in Utah to purchase a place out there to go skiing? Did they ever repay the Salvation Army or the State of PA for the money they got from them.

The more I heard and read about them, the more I saw just how greedy these 2 parents were. I thought their were many inappropriate filming episodes as the kids were now older and the show just took a 180 degree turn for the worse. I actually wasn't surprised that Jon finally left as he was treated terribly for years. He may of given it back to Kate, but it certainly was not in front of the camera--and you know she was controlling everything. It was her dreams and ideas that made the show what is was. What better a career for 2 people who wanted to be famous and not work a real job. I don't think having your everyday life filmed before a camera is a "real job".

Now its just lies, cover ups and 2 people who are too stupid to try and save their family.
 
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