Oh, I knew I was not expressing myself well

. dsny1mom--please forgive me for just quoting you--you covered everything I saw everyone else cover all at once in one post so it is jsut easiest to "pick on"

you!
Being a mom is one of the few things in life you remain no matter what the circumstances are. You can be an ex wife or a former CEO, but even if your child(dren) are deceased you are still a mother.
I do actually disagree here. I will always be a mom--yes. Here are some other things I will always be:
a daughter
a granddaughter
someone who loves to read (when my eyes go there will be audiobooks)
someone who travels
someone who cares about others
a worrier
I am sure there are more that are not popping into my head right now. I would also say "a wife" but I know many on the DIS would tell me that is naive. I also know many people who will say they will always be a Christian (or muslim or jew or . . .)
My SIL had 5 children and she didn't define herself as a mother first yet her 5have never truely seperated from her and have a tough time in life because they are always trying to please her and do what they think she would want them to do. Maybe they are trying to get the feeling from her that they are the most important people in her life as adults because they never felt it as children. .
I do define myself as a mother--among many other things. If you are a mother how can that not be part of your defintion?

I am sorry for your nieces and nephews. I have worked with teens for many years and it is heartbreaking to see the children whose parents don't seem to care about them. I do understand parents who make their children feel inferior or unimportant (an I am not sure which of those is worse than the other).
IMHO the abilty for children to grow up and lead their lives as they wish has more to do with how one parents as opossed to how a parent views themsleves.
dsny1mom
Oh, I agree--but sometimes they can be intertwined. I think the VAST majority of parents are good parents who love their children and are doing what works best for them and their kids. I believe that there are MANY ways to parent which are good--not just my way.
I think there is a happy medium between not caring about your children and not making them a priotiy at all (never bother to go to a game, a teacher conference, shopping for school clothes, talking to them, never telling them you love themetc.) and making them the complete center of your universe (at every single practice and game nad school field trip all though even highschool, wanting to know every detail of tehm going out with frineds--and tagging along when you can, only making what they want for dinner--never what you like, constantly telling them you love them and they are your world, etc.) and doing nothing without them in mind. I think nearly all of us fall somewhere in that medium--but extremes on either end are probably not good for children.