I think this is a disgrace and I see these stories all the time. What's the point of a restaurant accepting reservations if they have no intent to honor them?
After 10-15 minutes, I'd be checking back in with the host to see what the delay was about.
After 25-30 minutes, I'd be walking out the door after speaking to the manager.
As is often said, an ADR is Not a traditional reservation. They are not holding a table for you. When you check in they place you in line for the next table that will fit your party size.I think this is a disgrace and I see these stories all the time. What's the point of a restaurant accepting reservations if they have no intent to honor them?
After 10-15 minutes, I'd be checking back in with the host to see what the delay was about.
After 25-30 minutes, I'd be walking out the door after speaking to the manager.
This exactly. If I need to make my "reservation" 6 months in advance for some places, I take that to mean that when I show up, they're going to seat me and feed me. They're charging me if I don't show up but what's a reasonable time for them to seat me? I think 30 minutes is plenty. If you can't seat me in that window, then you also shouldn't charge me a "no show" fee because I wasn't a no show.I know Disney doesn’t use the traditional reservation, it is a place holder, but since they charge for a no show, at what point should you be able to walk away without a penalty?
As explained above, despite the acronym including a designation for the word 'reservation', you. do. not. have. an actual reservation.This exactly. If I need to make my "reservation" 6 months in advance for some places, I take that to mean that when I show up, they're going to seat me and feed me.
II think 30 minutes is plenty. If you can't seat me in that window, then you also shouldn't charge me a "no show" fee because I wasn't a no show.
Sorry, but if Disney isn't going to treat these as reservations and honor them as reservations, they need to stop calling them reservations and blatantly promoting them as reservations.despite the acronym including a designation for the word 'reservation', you. do. not. have. an actual reservation.
Well, then, argue it with Disney. Defending your point here is futile, as is arguing with me. I have absolutely nothing to do with Disney policy, nomenclature, business decisions, etc. Regardless of what a phrase - not merely a single word - means to the conxumer, its meaning to the provider is what matters.Sorry, but if Disney isn't going to treat these as reservations and honor them as reservations, they need to stop calling them reservations and blatantly promoting them as reservations.
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/dining-reservations/advance-reservation-restaurants/
This page on Disney's own Help Center repeatedly uses the word "reservation". Nowhere does it even hint that they don't actually take reservations. They very clearly state that they do.
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My confirmation for an upcoming meal doesn't say Call Ahead Seating. It doesn't say "Show up at this time and maybe we'll be able to seat you eventually". It very plainly, right at the top of the page, says DINING RESERVATION. Regardless of what that might mean to Disney, to 99.9% of the public, it means I have a reservation.
Sorry, I wasn't trying to argue with you personally. And I think talking about it here is helpful because I guarantee a great many people think a reservation at Disney is actually a reservation like it is anywhere else.argue it with Disney. Defending your point here is futile
Is this restaurant owned/operated by Disney?
If not- in the future, don’t use the Disney ADR system. Make a reservation directly with the restaurant. That way there’s no risk of a no-show fee.
Even if you’re using the dining plan, you can still do that.