lines, you forgot to standing in lines. This looks and feels like New Years or Christmas crowds. Its crazy here. We arrived at the Magic Kingdom 9:30 in the morning and it's now 3:30 and we've only gone three rides Seven Dwarfs Mine Train Splash Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain plus an hour waiting for our lunch after the mobile order. Disney Springs close to capacity last night. Forget about rope drop the parks open so late that everybody's up and raring to go.
We were at MK yesterday, Springs last night and agree it was crowded 😬 DD and I actually left MK mid-day to go swimming at the resort, because waits were so long and a lot of the lines were out in the sun. With the masks, it makes for a pretty miserable day
Honestly, my biggest issue yesterday was the lack of focus on keeping up with the line. We got stuck behind several groups of people who were too busy playing games, that they weren’t moving forward unless someone pointed out that they could move up the 10+ “please wait here” gaps 🤦🏼‍♀️
I would also like to reiterate that if you are staying on property, you won’t make “rope drop” using Disney transportation.
 
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I know this sounds crazy, but if a person who is experienced in the current realities of Disney wants to help me plan my trip I would very much appreciate it. If not, no worries. A little background.

We have not been to Disney since 1/14. (7 years!) Since then A LOT changed. Planned a trip for 6/20. Took a look while, but learned the ins and outs to plan the best trip possible. Cancelled. Now, we are going in January 2021. I have a touringplans subscription, but they do not seem to have any touringplans without FP. I also do not completely trust their predictions (because of all the unpredictability. This is my dd6 first time at Disney and it will probably be our last Disney trip for many years. I am trying to be as prepared as possible to enable the best experience possible (while being firmly flexible). Anyone interested in helping my map my days out? I understand there is a higher possiblity of change and flux these days, but also trying to begin to prepare.

There are 5 of us. myself, dw, ds14, ds11, dd6.
We arrive in Orlando on 1/9 and get a local hotel close to Disney.
1/10 - MK , Check into the Cabins.
1/11 - AK
1/12 - HS or EP (HS is reserved. Might switch the parks)
1/13 - Day off Parks
1/14 - EP or HS (EP is currently Reserved)
1/15 - MK
1/16 - Leave the Cabins.
We might be in AK same day. We'll be staying 1/7-1/13. I have a DD6 as well. It'll be her second time at a couple of the parks, first time at the others. I'd suggest checking out disneytouristblog.com. Tom Bricker, the author, is in a couple parks every week and constantly updates their 1 day plans with current info. However, I believe, or hope, that early January is far different from nov/dec crowd levels.
 
Went to Animal Kingdom today...if I knew this morning Everest would be down all day I wouldn’t have wasted our last park ticket there...really missing park hopping right now!
I noticed in MDE it was down all day as well. That does stink. Why was it down all day? Any talk about why?
 
For those of you who haven't been here yet, let me share a little line example. Today at 10 (2 hours after official open) I got into a line listed as 45 minutes for the safari. It started on the bridge, went down to the lion king theater and snaked through that line, wound around that area (waved at FOP people as the lines almost met) and went back up into Africa. They have added a section to the regular line too. However we moved almost constantly and was on the ride in 25 minutes. It's crazy. The lines look so long, but they really aren't.
 

I know this sounds crazy, but if a person who is experienced in the current realities of Disney wants to help me plan my trip I would very much appreciate it. If not, no worries. A little background.

We have not been to Disney since 1/14. (7 years!) Since then A LOT changed. Planned a trip for 6/20. Took a look while, but learned the ins and outs to plan the best trip possible. Cancelled. Now, we are going in January 2021. I have a touringplans subscription, but they do not seem to have any touringplans without FP. I also do not completely trust their predictions (because of all the unpredictability. This is my dd6 first time at Disney and it will probably be our last Disney trip for many years. I am trying to be as prepared as possible to enable the best experience possible (while being firmly flexible). Anyone interested in helping my map my days out? I understand there is a higher possiblity of change and flux these days, but also trying to begin to prepare.

There are 5 of us. myself, dw, ds14, ds11, dd6.
We arrive in Orlando on 1/9 and get a local hotel close to Disney.
1/10 - MK , Check into the Cabins.
1/11 - AK
1/12 - HS or EP (HS is reserved. Might switch the parks)
1/13 - Day off Parks
1/14 - EP or HS (EP is currently Reserved)
1/15 - MK
1/16 - Leave the Cabins.
I think what you have is good. I would keep HS and EP how you have them
 
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We were at MK yesterday, Springs last night and agree it was crowded 😬 DD and I actually left MK mid-day to go swimming at the resort, because waits were so long and a lot of the lines were out in the sun. With the masks, it makes for a pretty miserable day
Honestly, my biggest issue yesterday was the lack of focus on keeping up with the line. We got stuck behind several groups of people who were too busy playing games, that they weren’t moving forward unless someone pointed out that they could move up the 10+ “please wait here” gaps 🤦🏼‍♀️
I would also like to reiterate that if you are staying on property, you won’t make “rope drop” using Disney transportation.
So is renting a car the best way to go?
 
I tried picking through the reports of recent stays and I tried the search function but no luck so I have to ask:

I have a split stay coming up from WL to Riviera - are they transferring luggage still? If so - are they taking it from Bell Services in WL to my ROOM in Riviera or Bell Services in Riviera.

I've never done a split stay before - pre or post covid.

Thanks
 
I tried picking through the reports of recent stays and I tried the search function but no luck so I have to ask:

I have a split stay coming up from WL to Riviera - are they transferring luggage still? If so - are they taking it from Bell Services in WL to my ROOM in Riviera or Bell Services in Riviera.

I've never done a split stay before - pre or post covid.

Thanks

Yes, they will transfer your luggage.
 
We're here now and are leaving tomorrow, so I thought I'd give my report. It's going to be super long, and I hope it helps some of you! We arrived last Saturday and spent 3 days off-site, just to decompress before hitting the parks. We went to Disney Springs on Sunday for a couple hours at around noon, but other than that didn't venture within the bubble at all. We moved to the Contemporary on Tuesday for 5 days in the parks. We rented a car and were really glad we didn't turn it in when we moved to our onsite portion of our trip like we usually do. I was impressed with mask compliance, and most people did their best to stay distanced and obey the rules. Those that didn't were really obvious and obnoxious. As some background, we're out of state former annual passholders who let our passes expire during the closure. We typically would visit 2ish times a year for a week or more, so not much is new for us. We've been super cautious with COVID concerns, but not too terribly worried about outdoor, limited contact. The current iteration of the MDE app is awful. Just awful. It crashes and doesn't load properly most of the time, and with QS restaurants requiring mobile ordering, it's not a fun experience.

Tuesday: We dropped our luggage off at Contemporary and drove over to Epcot at about 9:50 for an 11:00 open. We arrived at the parking gates a little after 10 and had to wait about 5 minutes for them to start letting cars through. We were 5 or 6 cars back in line. Once we parked, we headed straight to Test Track. Waited about 10 minutes for them to start the ride up, but once they did, it was a walk on. After we were done, the line was posted as a 70 minute wait. We then wandered around World Showcase snacking and exploring for most of the day. My 7 year old did the Remy's Hide and Squeak, which was so so fun. We hit Soarin, Living with the Land, and Nemo on our way back out, and all 3 were a walk on as well. This was definitely our best day of the week and we had a blast.

Wednesday: Hollywood Studios. I mobile ordered breakfast for us at Boardwalk Bakery, and we had no issues parking there and picking that up at around 8:15. HS was at at 10:00 opening, and we walked over from Boardwalk at around 8:35. The walkway the whole way there was filled with people also walking. We arrived at around 8:50, and there were a couple hundred people there already. Once they let us all go, they split us all into multiple temperature tent lines. We headed to the far left and ended up being the 7th or so group in line at our tent. While we were walking up to our tent, we did hear a CM tell a couple 20something women that they couldn't wear lace masks. They tried to argue but were denied entry even into the tents. We were held until a bit after 9, then we went straight to MMRR. We were at the first marker right outside the entry door, and were on and off the ride by 9:35. We went straight to Slinky after that, and ended up having to wait about 50 minutes. I was able to snag boarding group 8 for Rise (no one around me in line got a boarding group. I felt awful for them.), and we headed that way after. Rode that, and my husband had to head back to grab the car and go to the hotel for conference calls. My daughter and I took at break at that point and rode the skyliner to Riviera for lunch. So good! After, we headed back for our reservation to build a droid, then went back to the hotel for a mid-day break. It was hot Hot HOT this week, with temps in the 90s, high humidity, and most lines in the sun. We returned in the evening and rode Smuggler's Run, Midway Mania, and Saucers with 25ish minute waits. Not too bad at all. Posted times were correct all day.

Thursday: Magic Kingdom. This was when we first began to feel how rough things are with all of the closures, spacing in lines and limited capacity on rides, no fastpasses, and lack of food options. We walked over from Contemporary at around 8, and once we were through all the checkpoints, we walked right on to Mine Train. After that we headed to Peter Pan, also a walk on, then to Big Thunder Mountain, which was about a 10 minute wait. Our plan was to go to Splash next, but it was down for the first couple hours of the morning. Instead we did Jungle Cruise and waited for 20 minutes or so, then Pirates, with a 15 minute wait. After that, our day went off the rails. My daughter's favorite ride has always been small world, so we got in line for that in the blazing sun. The line wrapped back and forth all the way through the area where stroller parking was in front of the Rapunzel bathrooms before it entered the building. 35 minutes of that, about 25 of which was in the sun. It was SO hot and miserable and it was so crowded. People were shoulder to shoulder walking through the chokepoints between Peter Pan and small world, etc. It felt like Christmas week. Just looking at the app, everything had a minimum wait of 30 minutes, including things like the carousel. Splash was at 90, which we really had wanted to do. We decided to try the "quick" rides like Dumbo, Barnstormer, and Teacups, but by the time we got there, they had all soared to 20-30 minutes as well and we just couldn't tolerate standing in the sun any longer. We're used to grabbing mid-day fastpasses for those types of rides, so waiting at all for them isn't going to happen. After scouring half the park to find an open cart that actually had Mickey pretzels, we were frustrated and annoyed and went back to the hotel to spend the rest of the day at the pool.

Friday: Animal Kingdom, my daughter's favorite park. She requested we spend 2 days here. She loves Wilderness Explorers and FoP, so those are our focus. We got a bit of a late start, and pulled into the parking lot at about 7:35 for an 8:00 opening. We went right to FoP, and although the line looked daunting, it moved constantly and only took us about a half hour. Our starting point was all the way down by Festival of the Lion King. We grabbed breakfast and coffee next, and watched a few of the cavalcades as they went by. Next we did the Safari: with a 25 minute posted time, we only waited about 10 minutes. We saw tons of animals and had a great guide. My husband had to head out again at this point for work, so my daughter and I grabbed lunch at Satuli and went through all of the Wilderness Explorer points in Africa, Pandora, Discovery Island, and Dinoland. We rode Triceratops Spin and did some shopping while hanging out in Dino, then hopped on a bus back to the hotel at around 3.

Saturday, today: Animal Kingdom again, total nightmare. This was by far our hardest day with the crowds. AVOID WEEKENDS. We got up much earlier this morning and made it through the AK parking gates at about 7:10. We were parked in the second row filled. Even still, by the time we got to FoP this morning, we were way way farther back in line, and they clearly didn't start loading people until closer to 8. We sat and sat and didn't move until almost 8, and had to wait over an hour in line. By the time we were done, the wait was at 135 minutes, barely a half hour after official opening time. We had planned to hit Navi after because the wait was only about 25 minutes yesterday after we rode FoP, but it had already hit an hour at that point today. Instead we repeated our breakfast and coffee from yesterday, then finished off the Wilderness Explorer book in Asia and Rafiki's Planet Watch. Everest was down all day, which made Asia a ghost town. We had a really enjoyable morning exploring there. Rafiki's wasn't as fun. They're only seating 3 parties per car on the train, which means if you have 3 parties of 1 person, they'll only load 3 people on a car that should fit probably 30 or so. We had to wait for 5 trains. 5. Even at Christmas it wasn't that bad. My daughter really wanted to try the animated experience, and I thought that by getting in line for the train at 11:45, that would give us plenty of time for the 12:15 show. Nope. We explored and got the WE badges, then headed out. Wait times were crazy for everything at this point. I tried to mobile order lunch for the 3 of us at Satuli again, and the app crashed on me twice in the middle of ordering. Every time it did that I'd lose my time slot, so I went from "Now", to a half hour later, to 45 minutes later. I finally got our order placed, and we headed to Pandora with about 15 minutes to wait. We had planned on finding a spot in the shade to kick back and rest before we could hit the "we are here" button, but once there, there literally was no place anywhere in Pandora to go, whether in the sun or the shade. The area not taken by the ride queues were just absolutely filled with people. The CM at Satuli was telling people to "step aside" to wait for their orders, but there was no place to step aside to. It was totally overwhelming and not an even remotely fun experience, so I canceled my order, we left the park, got McDonalds on our way back, and went back to the hotel.

I hate that our last day had to end on such a sour note. The beginning of our trip mid-week was really nice. I couldn't wait to get back here, but now that the itch is scratched, we likely won't come back again until things change drastically. There are too many things still closed, not having Fastpasses is miserable, and there's nowhere for people to go other than to stand in line the entire day. For first timers, this isn't going to be an experience that they'll want to return to, and for those of us that have been here oodles of times, we can feel what's missing. I'll be interested to see what changes Disney makes.
 
We were at MK yesterday, Springs last night and agree it was crowded 😬 DD and I actually left MK mid-day to go swimming at the resort, because waits were so long and a lot of the lines were out in the sun. With the masks, it makes for a pretty miserable day
Honestly, my biggest issue yesterday was the lack of focus on keeping up with the line. We got stuck behind several groups of people who were too busy playing games, that they weren’t moving forward unless someone pointed out that they could move up the 10+ “please wait here” gaps 🤦🏼‍♀️
I would also like to reiterate that if you are staying on property, you won’t make “rope drop” using Disney transportation.

I don’t stress if the people in front of me don’t always keep up with the line, especially if they’re having fun while waiting. The gap is only 10’ to more line. If close to boarding it’s one thing but until then I just see it as a treat when they notice and it feels like we move further. It’s all perception and attitude. I did the same in stores at home yesterday. I’ll take a gap over someone too close behind 100% of the time!!

Many are reporting rope drop can be done from the resorts, just arrive at the transportation a minimum of 90 mins before park opening. Longer for Skyliner resorts to get to DHS.
 
Reading so many posts regarding lines and crowds.... and then attractions going down, etc.
Disney really needs to bring back park hopping!!!! Seriously... it should be such an easy fix!!! Keep the reservation system, then once you used (entered) your first reservation (park) then see what else is available!! And "reserve" a second! It would work just like the additional fast pass system!
The biggest thing that is keeping us from going back right now is "NO park hopping"!

And bring back Fast Passes!!! Don't care how! if its the old paper ones or if you have to be in the park.... however they do it... they need to do it!!

Come on Disney!!!! Get with it here!!
 
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It's interesting to read the good and bad that get posted - from weekends to weekdays. No doubt frustrating for Disney and us guests - kind of a no-win situation with COVID and trying to recover a theme park business in the midst of it all. We love Disney and are really looking forward to our November trip, come what may. So appreciative of all of these posts so we can temper our expectations - and really decide on the few things that are must dos for us each day... have booked a few table service meals for lunchtimes for in-park breaks and to avoid having to find seating in crowded spaces with a QS meal like we typically do. Sounds like rope drop with uber/lyft in the a.m. for Epcot (Boardwalk) and MK (contemp cafe) - walking over to get us there an hour before opening. MK - probably go back mid-day for a break or go take the boat to Wilderness Lodge to see Christmas decorations, and come back when the sun isn't as brutal. AK is on a Sunday... uber/lyft to park, and definitely temper our expectations from what it sounds like - did get a table-service lunch at Rainforest (hoping to luck into Yak & Yeti as a swap) to avoid QS service seating challenges. Fingers crossed, and will be checking back here often to adjust our approach... once we are there, just going to enjoy... we go periodically, so don't have to do everything - more just try to hit our favorites early... then just avoid the top-tier 60+ min waits for the rest of the time. Good luck to everyone going... and thank you so much for keeping these posts coming!!!
 
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Reading so many posts regarding lines and crowds.... and then attractions going down, etc.
Disney really needs to bring back park hopping!!!! Seriously... it should be such an easy fix!!! Keep the reservation system, then once you used (entered) your first reservation (park) then see what else is available!! And "reserve" a second! It would work just like the additional fast pass system!

So what if no other park is available for that second reservation? Will you get a refund for the Park Hopping ability? If you force people to check out of a current park in order to check into a second for the day, what happens if after checking out from Park #1, there are no other parks with openings? And then Park #1 fills up again and you cant even continue your day in any park?

Given the current reservation system wont even allow you to switch days without canceling and rebooking, Id have a hard time trusting that they could get park hopping with limits implemented correctly in a way that doesnt mean some people get locked out completely, especially at busy times.
 














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