First grader suspended for

[akhenaten]

You forgot one of the "wiggle"s

darn... LOL.... every time I see this thread that is all I hear in my head...

But I am an awful Mom because my DD 10 knows the song and last week at a neighborhood restaurant karaoke she did a mean wiggle...

look for me , I will be hanging from a bridge...

 

[declansdad]

She probably did. However....what he was doing was in no way harrassment, or bullying. It simply irritated her.

How do you know this, were you there?

a title of sexual harrasser. Blows my mind.

The school didn't say this, the mother did.

 

[Coconut36]

First off, what's with the personal attacks? I take offense to my children being called "snowflakes". When you personaly come to visit me and live in my house then you *might* be able to speak about my children. That is wrong.

FYI, I have been involved with Scouting for over 7 years. First as a Den leader, then as Cub Master, then committee chair and now back to Cubmaster. I do not think that I am creating entitled youth. And I know that my Council feels that way too.

I would love to know why my posting history makes me creating horrible spoiled children? Perhaps you would care to PM me your issues.

A girl has a kid shake his booty in her face and sings a song. He's told to stop. He does it again. Why is that not considered normal childhood beahvior anymore? Children do things that act out for attention. It doesn't mean he's a horrible child, or has horrible parents. He's a child, acting like a child.

I highly doubt that the is girl is going to be tramatized for life because of this. My big kids have been victims of bullying. Real bullying. You know what they have learned about being pushed around and being taunted? How to get a thicker skin and turn the other cheek. Do you know *I* reacted to my kids being punched and taunted for disabilites? I went to the school and educated the kids on the issues that my kids face every day and why they are the way they are. I sat with the principal, my kids, the other child and their parents and we worked it out. It's called grace. It'as called acting like an adult and realizing that kids are kids and need to learn, and some kids take longer then others to get the message.

Again, if this is the worse thing you ever have to deal with in your life then you are lucky person indeed.

Oh but it's only words..the issue is with you not me if you don't like the words "snowflake" and apparently you need thicker skin. After all a little girl having a butt in her face has a problem and should just get over it..I would say the same for you and your "issue" here.

I don't know what kind of life you live but butts being shaken in someones face at school is NOT what I consider normal childhood behavior and when a child is disciplined..at school no less and told to stop something yet does it a second time..a normal reaction is a consequence not a pat on the head and a "Oh kids will be kids".

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Oh but it's only words..the issue is with you not me if you don't like the words "snowflake" and apparently you need thicker skin. After all a little girl having a butt in her face has a problem and should just get over it..I would say the same for you and your "issue" here.

I don't know what kind of life you live but butts being shaken in someones face at school is NOT what I consider normal childhood behavior and when a child is disciplined..at school no less and told to stop something yet does it a second time..a normal reaction is a consequence not a pat on the head and a "Oh kids will be kids".

Butt shaking is discouraged here as well. I've got news for you, my daughter comes home telling me some kid is shaking his butt in her face and he's been told to stop it and he keeps doing it, I'm going to step in and make it stop. I don't care if they suspend him or tie him to a chair. He needs to stop bugging my daughter.

 

[Coconut36]

Butt shaking is discouraged here as well. I've got news for you, my daughter comes home telling me some kid is shaking his butt in her face and he's been told to stop it and he keeps doing it, I'm going to step in and make it stop. I don't care if the suspend him or tie him to a chair. He needs to stop bugging my daughter.

That is my view as well. Honestly the mother of this kid irks me..instead of addressing her son's behavior with her son she instead throws a fit because he got in trouble for something he had previously been disciplined for. I am guessing the parent of this kid plays a big role in his behavior..obviously she doesn't feel he has to follow rules or suffer consequences so why would he think he needs to and why would he stop when the school told him too!

This little girl has rights as well..one of them involves going to school in an environment where she doesn't have rear ends in her face.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

ITA, that little girl doesn't need to be held hostage to a little ******* who's parents don't teach him how to behave in public.

It's not his fault he's a *******, it's his parents fault. But guess who pays the price in the real world? They are not doing the boy any favors by letting him act like that and letting him continue to get a way with it.

 

[burnurcomputer]

Oh but it's only words..the issue is with you not me if you don't like the words "snowflake" and apparently you need thicker skin. After all a little girl having a butt in her face has a problem and should just get over it..I would say the same for you and your "issue" here.

I don't know what kind of life you live but butts being shaken in someones face at school is NOT what I consider normal childhood behavior and when a child is disciplined..at school no less and told to stop something yet does it a second time..a normal reaction is a consequence not a pat on the head and a "Oh kids will be kids".

Again, what's with the personal attacks? The issue here is the original post, not my children or family. I don't recall calling your children names or trying to tell you what kind of parent you are. Still unclear as to what my "issue" is?

Again, feel free to PM me with why my posting history makes me "creating horrible spoiled children". You are brave with people around to support you, but you declined to respond personally. Not sure why that is?

Where did I say that the girl "should just get over it"? My direct quote is "I highly doubt that the is girl is going to be tramatized for life because of this. "

Where did I say that "a normal reaction is a consequence not a pat on the head and a "Oh kids will be kids". My direct quote is "A girl has a kid shake his booty in her face and sings a song. He's told to stop. He does it again. Why is that not considered normal childhood beahvior anymore? Children do things that act out for attention. It doesn't mean he's a horrible child, or has horrible parents. He's a child, acting like a child". When did we start to demonize a first grader for having the impulse controll of a ....first grader. I also addressed this in an earlier post.

I have been reading the replys and it appears to me that you have tangled up my posts with some others. The whole "words will be words" was a quote from another poster.

 

[Coconut36]

Are you not the one that called it "nuts" and the world crazy because the child was punished for this? Your post implied to me that because he was a 1st grader it was no biggie and the little girl should just have to deal with songs and behind shaking in her face. I don't think his age is remotely relevant to the discussion..he had been not not to do it, he did it again and now he is suffering the consequences of not following rules.

You don't know what she will take away from it or what she would take away from this if the issue was NOT addressed by removing the child from school for a short period of time. Just because she's young doesn't mean she will be unable to remember a time when she was being bothered, embarrassed, harassed and nobody stopped it from happening to her.

 

[smitch425]

If 1st grader Kylee calls May a bi*** over and over again and Mary ignores it, should the school ignore it too? If Kylee keeps up even when Mary ignores her, is it May's fault because she didn't handle it good enough?

Are their 3 kids in this scenario or just 2? Are the "May"s supposed to be "Mary"s?

 

[chloelovesdisney]

The boy sang a song in the cafeteria, no? Not really a huge deal in my book. The tush shaking was on a previous day, and not outlandish behavior for a young child. Not nice, annoying to be sure, but not going to cause harm.

I'm surprised a 6 year old would be suspended for singing in the cafeteria, even if he had been told not to sing previously. I can see suspension for hitting, but not for singing. The punishment was pretty major for a minor infraction. I would hardly consider singing to be harassment. It didn't even happen in the classroom causing disruption to a lesson.

I haven't read anything that indicates the suspended boy called the girl bad names, or names at all. Just that he sang a song, twice.

 

[declansdad]

The boy sang a song in the cafeteria, no? Not really a huge deal in my book. The tush shaking was on a previous day, and not outlandish behavior for a young child. Not nice, annoying to be sure, but not going to cause harm.

I'm surprised a 6 year old would be suspended for singing in the cafeteria, even if he had been told not to sing previously. I can see suspension for hitting, but not for singing. The punishment was pretty major for a minor infraction. I would hardly consider singing to be harassment. It didn't even happen in the classroom causing disruption to a lesson.

I haven't read anything that indicates the suspended boy called the girl bad names, or names at all. Just that he sang a song, twice.

You also haven't read if there were other things this boy did to warrant suspension.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

You also haven't read if there were other things this boy did to warrant suspension.

No, but I'm not going to assume they exist when they haven't been mentioned by anyone except on this thread.

 

[mom2boys]

First of all, I can't believe a parent would let their 6 year old child listen to that kind of music and secondly - once again - I'm so glad I homeschool.

The boy may have learned the song from the Shrek movie.

 

[kaligal]

The boy sang a song in the cafeteria, no? Not really a huge deal in my book. The tush shaking was on a previous day, and not outlandish behavior for a young child. Not nice, annoying to be sure, but not going to cause harm.

I'm surprised a 6 year old would be suspended for singing in the cafeteria, even if he had been told not to sing previously. I can see suspension for hitting, but not for singing. The punishment was pretty major for a minor infraction. I would hardly consider singing to be harassment. It didn't even happen in the classroom causing disruption to a lesson.

I haven't read anything that indicates the suspended boy called the girl bad names, or names at all. Just that he sang a song, twice.

It's not thoe singing that anyone objects to!

It's the complete and total inability to stop, even after being warned.

He should have been civilized by now, but is instead disregarding social norms and the rule of law (i.e. he's weird and rebellious.).

Kids must learn that they cannot badger other people and that they have to follow the rules.

I think they may have done something right, here. I don't have enough info and can't see the people to figure out if they're lying, so I dont know. But it sure sounds like it to me.

 

[Family Fun Mom]

OMG! I can't believe the overreaction here.

I have a daughter. If at 6 years old a kid was wiggling his butt in her face and singing a very popular song about being sexy and knowing it, I'd probably laugh and tell her to ignore him, then we'd all get on with life. I wouldn't be stomping up to the school crying about my daughter's "rights" being infringed upon. That would not only embarrass myself, but my child. And I wouldn't want to see a little kid get suspended over something so insignifcant.

I very rarely get involved in my kids' conflicts. I think it is very important they learn to handle these things on their own. If kids can't handle small irritations like this how are they going to handle it when something real, and bad, happens? They won't be even remotely equipt.

Obviously, the child needed to be corrected and disciplined but the punishment here does not fit the crime. This is not suspension worthy. You suspend a kid for fighting, not for being a classroom irritation.

 

[aprilgail2]

Calling this sexual harrassment and bullying is insane! We are creating an entire generation of crybaby wimps with our overreactions to frivolous crap like this.

Yes, he was told not to sing and dance, he didn't listen. He should have been paddled. But that's a topic for another day.

So the child should have been beaten for singing and shaking his butt---wow, just wow.

OMG! I can't believe the overreaction here.

I have a daughter. If at 6 years old a kid was wiggling his butt in her face and singing a very popular song about being sexy and knowing it, I'd probably laugh and tell her to ignore him, then we'd all get on with life. I wouldn't be stomping up to the school crying about my daughter's "rights" being infringed upon. That would not only embarrass myself, but my child. And I wouldn't want to see a little kid get suspended over something so insignifcant.

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I agree-I would tell my child to just ignore the other kid if that is all that he was doing. What a bunch of crybabys we are raising, I can't imagine the world in another 20-30 years when all these crybabys are adults!!!

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Sorry, it's called learning to follow the rules. She states herself that he's had other disciplinary problems.

The first time he does it, warning, no problem. He keeps targeting my kid, starts shaking his *** in her face, problem.

 

[PollyannaMom]

I think the suspension was innapropriate here, because I expect the kid will see three days off from school as a good thing. Suspension is sometimes necessary to protect the other children from physical harm, but I don't think it really convinces the offender to behave better.

But, I do think something should have been done. The kid broke a rule, got in trouble for it, and turned around and did the same thing again. Maybe no cafeteria with the others the next day? He has to eat in the principal's office instead?

While I don't think this is actually "sexual harassment" - because I don't think a six-year-old knows the meaning of what he was saying, I do think it's OK to have a rule that says the word "sexy" is not appropriate for school, and OK to enforce it.

 

[mhsjax]

It's one thing to teach your kids to stand up for themselves, it's quite another to teach them to take a kid out. Nice job!

Bullies need to taken out, this IS standing up for yourself. do you really think you can talk your way out of being bullied. LOL. I have told my kids the exact same thing. If most people believed this way, then the world would probably have almost no bullying. some kids aren't capable of standing up for themselves, but mostly parents and schools prohibit a child from doing this. My kids have been told that if they err get suspended for taking up for themselves, that they will actually be rewarded at home for their actions. If they err start anything, they school will have to wait their turn for punishment and there probably won't be much left, but for defending, that equals a reward. JOB WELL DONE.

 

[mhsjax]

So the child should have been beaten for singing and shaking his butt---wow, just wow.



I agree-I would tell my child to just ignore the other kid if that is all that he was doing. What a bunch of crybabys we are raising, I can't imagine the world in another 20-30 years when all these crybabys are adults!!!

I agree with your last statement. I was chased in 6th grade by 2 boys, (that I actually liked) and they loved to grab my butt. I didn't kill me. I didn't like it, but I managed to live through it and they really weren't being mean, they were, (in there mind) flirting. Not saying it was right, but I didn't need the school to intervene. Now in 4th grade I had the same problem, the boy cornered me and hauled off and slugged him. The teacher asked what happened, I told her and they boy got sent off to the principals office, I was in no trouble what so ever. I do miss the way things were. Now you can't do anything to defend yourself, you have to depend on the teachers.

ETA If the boy had been told previously to stop, then yes there should have been a punishment. But sexual harassment, NOT.