First grader suspended for

[Coconut36]

Well this incident wasn't in your home, it was in school. In school, where they have rules and expect all students no matter what their age is to follow them. Actions have consequences, never too early to learn that. That is their "perspective".

And you can joke about it all you want, but when all these entitled kids, who were taught that sometimes rules shouldn't aply to them for whatever excuse they were taught, grow up to be adults in charge of running the country, I wouldn't be calling any of us blessed.

 

[luvmy3]

Wow talk about overblown!

I don't see harassment - sexual or otherwise - in this situation. Sounds like the girl needed to get in the boys face and tell him to knock it off if it was bugging her that much. Poor little snowflake can't stand up for herself?

Words are...words. I don't censor anything from my kids....which, I know freaks everyone out. They know that there is language they can use at home and language they can use at school. My 2nd grader has been to the principal 1 time - a few weeks ago - because he took the bully out. I told him the last time he came home with a story about how the bully did this or that, that the next time he better stand his ground and for himself. So when the bully came at him again....he clocked him. And I high fived him As did the rest of the parents his his class! His punishment from school - a note sent home and he missed recess. Woo. Worth it, IMO, to show the bully that he WILL fight back.

I refuse to raise my kids to be PC, sheltered, censored, etc. They are both very compassionate, polite, upstanding kids who just happen to know the world isn't all sunshine and unicorns and rainbows. And I think anything else would be a disservice to them. My kids will not be coddled, silver spoon fed, living in a bubble. They know that there are people out there who will make situations uncomfortable and it is THEIR responsibility to stick up for them self.

If that had been my daughter, I would have told her that boys tease girls because that's what boys do. And leave it at that. Tell her to buck up and her best bet would be to ignore him.

I hate hate hate the government involvement in school for reasons such as this.

If he had been singing "I'm ugly and I know it" while dancing - would the same punishment have been doled out?

All this hinges on the word "sexy" which is absolutely ridiculous...

I'm not one to normally be left speechless but your post has got me shaking my head. I guess all I can say is no, that isn't what is absolutely ridiculous.....

 

[Family Fun Mom]

Wow talk about overblown!

I don't see harassment - sexual or otherwise - in this situation. Sounds like the girl needed to get in the boys face and tell him to knock it off if it was bugging her that much. Poor little snowflake can't stand up for herself?

Words are...words. I don't censor anything from my kids....which, I know freaks everyone out. They know that there is language they can use at home and language they can use at school. My 2nd grader has been to the principal 1 time - a few weeks ago - because he took the bully out. I told him the last time he came home with a story about how the bully did this or that, that the next time he better stand his ground and for himself. So when the bully came at him again....he clocked him. And I high fived him As did the rest of the parents his his class! His punishment from school - a note sent home and he missed recess. Woo. Worth it, IMO, to show the bully that he WILL fight back.

I refuse to raise my kids to be PC, sheltered, censored, etc. They are both very compassionate, polite, upstanding kids who just happen to know the world isn't all sunshine and unicorns and rainbows. And I think anything else would be a disservice to them. My kids will not be coddled, silver spoon fed, living in a bubble. They know that there are people out there who will make situations uncomfortable and it is THEIR responsibility to stick up for them self.

If that had been my daughter, I would have told her that boys tease girls because that's what boys do. And leave it at that. Tell her to buck up and her best bet would be to ignore him.

I hate hate hate the government involvement in school for reasons such as this.

If he had been singing "I'm ugly and I know it" while dancing - would the same punishment have been doled out?

All this hinges on the word "sexy" which is absolutely ridiculous...

:::Wild applause::: Bravo and Amen!!!

 

[caitlinsmom]

I'm quite certain that my 9 year old doesn't know the what the F word means either, but it doesn't mean I want her listening to music/tv/movies that use it or worse yet, repeating it.


The kid had been previously punished for this and the second offense called for a stronger punishment. I do think suspension was the wrong move though. I think an in school suspension would have been better. Growing up our school used those a lot. And often times it meant sitting in a back corner of the library all day hand writing out portions of the dictionary. That may be a bit much for a 6 year old, but something along those lines would be better than 3 days vacation. Without a parent on the other end to back the school up, its just that, a 3 day vacation.

Exactly. Punish him with an inschool suspension, take recess away, make him sit at a different table at lunch.
There are plenty of elementary school kids who commit worse offenses that do not get suspended. Telling a 6 yr old they can't come back to school for 3 days is probably not percieved as punishment. Especially if the parents work and those 3 days become 3 days with grandma or someone else who is not a punishment to spend time with.

 

[Magic Mom]

I think it crazy, this little boy was suspended for singing this. If he's like my little boy who in 1st grade he know the saying from the MM commerical and has no idea what it means, beside he think the MM's are funny

I guarantee you he didn't just innocently sing one line and get suspended. My guess is there is more to the story. There was probably actions and body language to go along with the singing. If it were my daughter that this boy was serenading over and over, you can bet I would have a problem with it.

One time, no big deal, the teacher can ask him to stop. Two times he needs to pull a card or lose a priveledge. Three or more times, it needs to stop, and if suspension is the only way to get the message across then so be it.

 

[penn19]

Wow talk about overblown!

I don't see harassment - sexual or otherwise - in this situation. Sounds like the girl needed to get in the boys face and tell him to knock it off if it was bugging her that much. Poor little snowflake can't stand up for herself?

Words are...words. I don't censor anything from my kids....which, I know freaks everyone out. They know that there is language they can use at home and language they can use at school. My 2nd grader has been to the principal 1 time - a few weeks ago - because he took the bully out. I told him the last time he came home with a story about how the bully did this or that, that the next time he better stand his ground and for himself. So when the bully came at him again....he clocked him. And I high fived him As did the rest of the parents his his class! His punishment from school - a note sent home and he missed recess. Woo. Worth it, IMO, to show the bully that he WILL fight back

I refuse to raise my kids to be PC, sheltered, censored, etc. They are both very compassionate, polite, upstanding kids who just happen to know the world isn't all sunshine and unicorns and rainbows. And I think anything else would be a disservice to them. My kids will not be coddled, silver spoon fed, living in a bubble. They know that there are people out there who will make situations uncomfortable and it is THEIR responsibility to stick up for them self.

If that had been my daughter, I would have told her that boys tease girls


because that's what boys do. And leave it at that. Tell her to buck up and her best bet would be to ignore him.

I hate hate hate the government involvement in school for reasons such as this.

If he had been singing "I'm ugly and I know it" while dancing - would the same punishment have been doled out?

All this hinges on the word "sexy" which is absolutely ridiculous...

100%

 

[Scurvy]

Well this incident wasn't in your home, it was in school. In school, where they have rules and expect all students no matter what their age is to follow them. Actions have consequences, never too early to learn that. That is their "perspective".

And you can joke about it all you want, but when all these entitled kids, who were taught that sometimes rules shouldn't apply to them for whatever excuse they were taught, grow up to be adults in charge of running the country, I wouldn't be calling any of us blessed.

Well said!

 

[Minnesota!]

I'm not one to normally be left speechless but your post has got me shaking my head. I guess all I can say is no, that isn't what is absolutely ridiculous.....

What do you not agree with? The part where I said kids should stand up for themselves? The part where I said that bullies need to be put in their place? The part where I said kids shouldn't be coddled? Or the part where I said that words are just letters put together...and it's up to each person to react, or not, to those strings of letters?

 

[Magic Mom]

What do you not agree with? The part where I said kids should stand up for themselves? The part where I said that bullies need to be put in their place? The part where I said kids shouldn't be coddled? Or the part where I said that words are just letters put together...and it's up to each person to react, or not, to those strings of letters?

Children need to stand up for themselves (ITA with that), but not as a substitute for the adults in charge addressing the situation. One is not exclusive of the other.

There are some kids (and you will find a lot of 1st grade girls like this) that are much too shy to stand up for themselves yet. Yes they need to learn that skill, but in the meantime they need adults to mediate for them.

And for all we know the girl did ask/tell this boy to stop.

 

[Minnesota!]

Children need to stand up for themselves (ITA with that), but not as a substitute for the adults in charge addressing the situation. One is not exclusive of the other.

There are some kids (and you will find a lot of 1st grade girls like this) that are much too shy to stand up for themselves yet. Yes they need to learn that skill, but in the meantime they need adults to mediate for them.

And for all we know the girl did ask/tell this boy to stop.

She probably did. However....what he was doing was in no way harrassment, or bullying. It simply irritated her. She let his words get to her. Ignoring him would have solved it. Running to an adult for something like this is something I ABSOLUTELY discourage to my kids. Tattling...one of my biggest pet peeves. He did it (again and again) because he got a reaction. Had he not..he wouldn't have done it. Again, it's teaching the kids that words are just words. Finding something to be offended by in those words is all on the "victim" instead of the "attacker".

I know I know I know I see this a lot differently than most....and I am cool with that. But I just think it's so damn ridiculous that our culture has become so PC that what, when we were kids was "Johnny must like me because he is "picking on me"", has become means for suspension and a title of sexual harrasser. Blows my mind.

 

[Coconut36]

She probably did. However....what he was doing was in no way harrassment, or bullying. It simply irritated her. She let his words get to her. Ignoring him would have solved it. Running to an adult for something like this is something I ABSOLUTELY discourage to my kids. Tattling...one of my biggest pet peeves. He did it (again and again) because he got a reaction. Had he not..he wouldn't have done it. Again, it's teaching the kids that words are just words. Finding something to be offended by in those words is all on the "victim" instead of the "attacker".

I know I know I know I see this a lot differently than most....and I am cool with that. But I just think it's so damn ridiculous that our culture has become so PC that what, when we were kids was "Johnny must like me because he is "picking on me"", has become means for suspension and a title of sexual harrasser. Blows my mind.

Holy cow..you are actually say it is this child's fault she is bothered by harassing behavior? That just defies words and disgusts me someone could actually think that way. So the kid should have just sucked it up and have some kids butt in her face repeatedly rather than asking for assistance so she could have a safe and harassment free school environment? Or based on your posts you think she should have physically attacked him/hit him? It's her fault he is in trouble because she was upset?

In the "real world" if some jerk is sticking their behind in my face there is legal recourse I can take and they could lose their job if it is in the workplace..why should children not be offered such protections in school? Instead according to you they have to just "suck it up" and ignore it or punch/hit another kid and if they get upset or find it bothersome it's their fault not the fault of the person doing it to them.

 

[hsmamato2]

I don't know...I have a problem with the song itself being the issue..as it's a standard song and every kid who listens to the radio knows it. Most of the kids have no idea what it really means, but it's everywhere,and it has a catchy beat.Anyone here see the superbowl? C'mon folks!
I also disagree that this is bullying or sexual harassment, it's an annoying kid who isn't listening to his teachers.
I TOTALLY agree with school superiors disciplining the kid for disobeying a clear directive, "STOP singing that song to that girl"-
Perhaps this kid is generally disruptive and doesn't listen,who knows? As for the punishment,it doesn't make much sense- and the parent should back off,her kid isn't listening,and that's his job in school.
Just b/c he's 6....well, that tells me he probably doesn't understand the lyrics much,but that he is already feeling free to disobey teachers. So that will be a BIG problem in a couple more years,hence it should be dealt with. NOW.
I agree with some pp's....it doesn't make you a bad parent if you let your kids know popular culture,and we're teaching our kids to be 'too delicate'- but bad behavior should = discipline, so the mom should be quiet.

 

[LuvsDragonflies]

Maybe if mommy and daddy didn't think it was such a hoot at home, he would understand that not everyone thinks he's the star of the the show all the time.

Seriously, remember to teach your kids they aren't everyones #1. My dd has a friend like that and it just gets toooooo annoying.

Don't suspend him because of the song, suspend him for not listening to the rules and for having parents that don't teach him to listen to the rules. Heck, can we suspend the parents too? From something like a bridge?

 

[luvmy3]

What do you not agree with? The part where I said kids should stand up for themselves? The part where I said that bullies need to be put in their place? The part where I said kids shouldn't be coddled? Or the part where I said that words are just letters put together...and it's up to each person to react, or not, to those strings of letters?

Oh I agree with all that, but in the situation in the OP the boy was doing something he wasn't supposed to be doing and deserves whatever punishment he gets. Your notion of trying to turn this into a life lesson for a 6 year old that they need to fight their own battles and handle this themself is disturbing to me. The boy was previously disciplined for this action, and I would expect any child to do the right thing and report it to someone in authority. I would expect the little girl he was harassing to tell him to knock it off AND tell a teacher, so that kid can learn he isn't going to get away with 1) harassment and 2) thinking he is above the rules. Those are the lessons that should be learned from this incident.

 

[luvmy3]

Maybe if mommy and daddy didn't think it was such a hoot at home, he would understand that not everyone thinks he's the star of the the show all the time.

Seriously, remember to teach your kids they aren't everyones #1. My dd has a friend like that and it just gets toooooo annoying.

Don't suspend him because of the song, suspend him for not listening to the rules and for having parents that don't teach him to listen to the rules. Heck, can we suspend the parents too? From something like a bridge?

 

[akhenaten]

Wiggle, wiggle , wiggle , wiggle yeah!!!

 

[smitch425]

Wiggle, wiggle , wiggle , wiggle yeah!!!

You forgot one of the "wiggle"s

 

[declansdad]

Wow talk about overblown!

I don't see harassment - sexual or otherwise - in this situation. Sounds like the girl needed to get in the boys face and tell him to knock it off if it was bugging her that much. Poor little snowflake can't stand up for herself?

Words are...words. I don't censor anything from my kids....which, I know freaks everyone out. They know that there is language they can use at home and language they can use at school. My 2nd grader has been to the principal 1 time - a few weeks ago - because he took the bully out. I told him the last time he came home with a story about how the bully did this or that, that the next time he better stand his ground and for himself. So when the bully came at him again....he clocked him. And I high fived him As did the rest of the parents his his class! His punishment from school - a note sent home and he missed recess. Woo. Worth it, IMO, to show the bully that he WILL fight back.

I refuse to raise my kids to be PC, sheltered, censored, etc. They are both very compassionate, polite, upstanding kids who just happen to know the world isn't all sunshine and unicorns and rainbows. And I think anything else would be a disservice to them. My kids will not be coddled, silver spoon fed, living in a bubble. They know that there are people out there who will make situations uncomfortable and it is THEIR responsibility to stick up for them self.

If that had been my daughter, I would have told her that boys tease girls because that's what boys do. And leave it at that. Tell her to buck up and her best bet would be to ignore him.

I hate hate hate the government involvement in school for reasons such as this.

If he had been singing "I'm ugly and I know it" while dancing - would the same punishment have been doled out?

All this hinges on the word "sexy" which is absolutely ridiculous...

It's one thing to teach your kids to stand up for themselves, it's quite another to teach them to take a kid out. Nice job!

 

[declansdad]

Exactly. Punish him with an inschool suspension, take recess away, make him sit at a different table at lunch.
There are plenty of elementary school kids who commit worse offenses that do not get suspended. Telling a 6 yr old they can't come back to school for 3 days is probably not percieved as punishment. Especially if the parents work and those 3 days become 3 days with grandma or someone else who is not a punishment to spend time with.

Again, how do you know the suspension was solely based on these two incidents? We don't and never will as the school isn't allowed to discuss it.

 

[burnurcomputer]

I don't care how old the kid is..he got in trouble for it once already and he did it again..how in the grand scheme of things does that not warrant a consequence? I am not saying I think suspension is the most appropriate consequence but it does deserve one.

I also suspect you would be singing a different tune if it was your snowflake's face some kid was shaking their behind in. Try thinking about the impact on the other person here and what the 1st grade girl is going through in having a boy do this not once, but twice..one of those times involving his behind in her face. Yeah it's just crazy he would need to suffer some consequences for doing something he knew he shouldn't be doing.

And if you are raising your little snowflakes to think that it's OK to do something they were expressly told at school not to do..then yep, you are contributing to the issue of entitled youth (and based on your posts I suspect you are).

First off, what's with the personal attacks? I take offense to my children being called "snowflakes". When you personaly come to visit me and live in my house then you *might* be able to speak about my children. That is wrong.

FYI, I have been involved with Scouting for over 7 years. First as a Den leader, then as Cub Master, then committee chair and now back to Cubmaster. I do not think that I am creating entitled youth. And I know that my Council feels that way too.

I would love to know why my posting history makes me creating horrible spoiled children? Perhaps you would care to PM me your issues.

A girl has a kid shake his booty in her face and sings a song. He's told to stop. He does it again. Why is that not considered normal childhood beahvior anymore? Children do things that act out for attention. It doesn't mean he's a horrible child, or has horrible parents. He's a child, acting like a child.

I highly doubt that the is girl is going to be tramatized for life because of this. My big kids have been victims of bullying. Real bullying. You know what they have learned about being pushed around and being taunted? How to get a thicker skin and turn the other cheek. Do you know *I* reacted to my kids being punched and taunted for disabilites? I went to the school and educated the kids on the issues that my kids face every day and why they are the way they are. I sat with the principal, my kids, the other child and their parents and we worked it out. It's called grace. It'as called acting like an adult and realizing that kids are kids and need to learn, and some kids take longer then others to get the message.

Again, if this is the worse thing you ever have to deal with in your life then you are lucky person indeed.