Fantasy vs titanic

[Patrickprincess]

I'm watching titanic for the hunderth million time> I was just wounding how much biger the fantasy is. Also did any one know that the fantasy's orignal vm was for April the same day that titanic set sail. Things have changed in one hundered years. So looking foward to my fantasy cruise

 

[mmouse37]

I'm watching titanic for the hunderth million time> I was just wounding how much biger the fantasy is. Also did any one know that the fantasy's orignal vm was for April the same day that titanic set sail. Things have changed in one hundered years. So looking foward to my fantasy cruise

I am a huge Titanic fan (watched ALL the movies tons of times, read about, watch all the special, went to the exhibit when it was here in NY). Things on DCL are VERY different.

Titantic was 46,328 GRT tons and Fantasy is 130,000 GRT .....BIG DIFFERENCE!!

MJ

 

[itutorfortravel]

So looking foward to my fantasy cruise

Wow, I'm looking forward to my April cruise now too!

 

[Florida Dreamin']

It's about three times the weight and about ten times taller. Can't wait to be on her in early March!

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

Although I think you were being a bit lazy in not searching yourself
Here you go:

Titanic:
The RMS Titanic
Length: 882 feet, 8 inches (268 meters)
Beam: 92.5 feet (28 meters)
Height: 60.5 feet waterline to Boat Deck, 175 feet keel to top of funnels
Draft: 59.5 feet
Gross Tonnage: 46,328 tons
Net Tonnage: 24,900 tons
Top Speed: 23 knots
Total Capacity: 3547 passengers and crew
Decks: 9 in all (including the Orlop Deck)- the Boat Deck, A, B, C, D, E, F, G, and boiler rooms below G.
Engines: 2 reciprocating 4 cylinder, triple expansion, direct- acting, inverted engines: 30,000 hp, 77 rpm. 1 low pressure Parsons turbine: 16,000 hp, 165 rpm
Fuel Requirement: 825 tons of coal per day
Propellers: 3- Center turbine: 17 feet, Left/right wings: 23 feet, 6 inches
Boilers: 29 (24 double ended boilers and 5 single ended boilers)
Furnaces: 159 providing a total heating surface of 144,142 sq. feet
Steam pressure: 215 P.S.I.
Watertight compartments: 16, extending up to F deck
Lifeboats: 20 total as follows:
14 wood lifeboats, each 30 feet x 9 feet 1 inch, by 4 feet deep, with a carrying capacity of 65 persons each; 2 wood cutters, each 25 feet 2 inches, x 7 feet 2 inches, by 3 feet deep, with a carrying capacity of 40 persons each; 4 Englehardt collapsible boats, each 27 feet x 8 feet, by 3 feet deep, with a carrying capacity of 47 persons each
Lifeboat Total Rated Capacity: 1,179 persons
Personal floatation devices: 3,560 life jackets and 49 life buoys

Disney Dream:
Tonnage: 128,000 GT (gross tonnage)
Length: 1,115 ft (340 m)
Beam: 125 ft (38 m)
Draft: 26 ft (7.9 m)
Decks: 16 (14 Passenger)
Installed power:
3 x 12-cylinder & 2 x 14-cylinder MAN V48/60CR diesel engines
2 x 19 MW Converteam Motors
Speed: 22 knots (maximum 24.7 knots)
Capacity: 4,000 passengers[2]
Crew: 1,458

Ex Techie

 

[lbgraves]

Everything I see online says that the Titanic set sail from Southampton for her MV on 4/10. The Fantasy originally was scheduled to do the MV on 4/7.

 

[Bear3412]

Could this be one reason why they changed the MV date?

 

[TitanBrett]

the difference in draft is interesting

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

I was told there is a difference in hull design between Ocean Liners and Cruise Ships, and obviously technology and design's have changed, but I was too!

Ex Techie

 

[Who's your Mickey?]

Even if they had filled every seat on every lifeboat, almost 2400 still would have died.

 

[sambycat]

wow - so even the magic/wonder are bigger then the titanic. interesting!

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

Who's your Mickey?,
But it was unsinkable, so why would you need all the lifeboats!?

And yet someone still posted a comment about not caring less about the Safety Drill just today. (DIS need a slap forehead simlie here!)
Just astounds me.

Ex Techie

 

[Patrickprincess]

Who's your Mickey?,
But it was unsinkable, so why would you need all the lifeboats!?

And yet someone still posted a comment about not caring less about the Safety Drill just today. (DIS need a slap forehead simlie here!)
Just astounds me.

Ex Techie

yes. I find titanic sad and tragic because so may of the passngers were comming to american for a new life. also it was a diffennt time and the customs of 1912 wouldn't fly today. just think today on a disney cruise jack would wouldn't have to worry to much about what he wore in the main dinning room sad to say that we learn the hard way

 

[Patrickprincess]

Who's your Mickey?,
But it was unsinkable, so why would you need all the lifeboats!?

And yet someone still posted a comment about not caring less about the Safety Drill just today. (DIS need a slap forehead simlie here!)
Just astounds me.

Ex Techie

i also wanted to say that we should be gratefull for the safey drill. yes it is borring and mabey over kill but isn't good to be ready in just case something happens???. One dosne't think about something bad happing on a cruise but it can happen and we must be READY

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

yes. I find titanic sad and tragic because so may of the passngers were comming to american for a new life. also it was a diffennt time and the customs of 1912 wouldn't fly today. just think today on a disney cruise jack would wouldn't have to worry to much about what he wore in the main dinning room sad to say that we learn the hard way

It is very sad that so many people lost their lives dues to the Cruise Lines negligence and arrogance.
He could wear short's to the main dining room in this day and age, but it would still be prudent of him to listen to the Safety Drill so if there was an emergency, he would know what to do and where to go!

Ex Techie

 

[malacajo]

Even if they had filled every seat on every lifeboat, almost 2400 still would have died.

Wow, that shocks me! I guess I thought that the lifeboats would have saved all of them.! I never knew this...How sad

 

[extechie rbd/wdt]

i also wanted to say that we should be gratefull for the safey drill. yes it is borring and mabey over kill but isn't good to be ready in just case something happens???. One dosne't think about something bad happing on a cruise but it can happen and we must be READY

As you guessed, I couldn't agree more!

(personally I think anyone that doesn't pay attention should be removed from the ship, as their "I know it all" attitude will most likely end up in panic should the worst happen and result in other people having to risk their lives to tell them what to do again, or make them do what they should already know.
It ain't a Disney Park with the local Fire Department, Police Department and Paramedic's just waiting 5 minutes away.

May the safe and happy journeys continue.

Ex Techie

 

[Conservative Hippie]

Wow, that shocks me! I guess I thought that the lifeboats would have saved all of them.! I never knew this...How sad

Titanic was even carrying more lifeboats (20) than legally required - it was only required that she have enough lifeboats for 756 passengers. Titanic was built with the capacity to carry 64 lifeboats, possibly anticipating a change in lifeboat policy.

 

[mousebrat]

http://malcolmoliver.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/oasis_titanic.jpg

This link shows Titanic next to Oasis.

 

[BeeTeacher]

Interesting that this topic has come up, as my 6th grader is doing a History Fair entry on the Titanic. The theme is Revolution, Reaction Reform. In her (our) research, we have learned that the Titanic tragedy resulted in the SOLAS (Safety of Lives at Sea) Treaty, which in turn led to new Maritime laws.

Muster drills were pretty common in 1912 but several sources we have found say the captain of the Titanic decided to cancel the drill so that passengers could attend church service.

Titanic was capable of taking on more lifeboats but the White Star Line decided it would clutter up the look of the deck. It did not have enough lifeboats and worse (just as in the movie) most lifeboats were not filled to capacity. This is because the crew feared the weight of the lifeboats would be too much for them to be lowered safely, and because many people either did not really believe the ship was sinking or they just did not know where to go, because there had not been a drill.

Basically, we have learned that a huge number of things went wrong that led to the tragedy. A big part of her project is about how the sinking led to reform in sea travel. I cannot imagine skipping the muster drill -- if there were a situation where we needed to get in a lifeboard I definately want to know where to go!

Is skipping the drill allowed? Or do people go and just not pay attention?