Fake Tiffany VENT

[kwelch10377]

Did I miss where the OP answered several people's question about what the return policy was? Or was that never addressed?

 

[DisneyScraps]

Not impossible to her as she doesn't know you at all. It is entirely possible to her that you run a scam of returning fakes often and well within reason to her that you would have a used fake on hand to return. It is a common scam.

2 questions..how do you know with complete certainty that it is not authentic? Unless you took it to Tiffany or had it appraised by a professional I can also see her disregard for your personal word that it is a fake as you might like the brand and buy it a lot you are not a professional.

2nd question..did you check the store return policy? If she has a clear no return policy it really doesn't matter what you feel about authenticity as she would not be obligated to take a return because she has a policy that states she does not take returns and you agree to the return policy when you make a purchase.

The store return policy clearly states that the GUARANTEES their merchandise is authentic. How I found out was I went to the tiffany website looked up my item and there is a small difference in how the clasp is attached to the bracelet and Tiffany makes each and every one of their pieces exact. I put mine under a magnifying glass and it's a fake.

I called her within an hour and we agreed to meet Monday she is not open today.

I can say this over and over it's the only way they can sell this type of stuff is is they have to guarantee that it's real.

Some of the responses have been really interesting. thanks for such entertainment. I am off to spend my day probably wearing something that would horrify some of you

 

[goofy!]

The store return policy clearly states that the GUARANTEES their merchandise is authentic. How I found out was I went to the tiffany website looked up my item and there is a small difference in how the clasp is attached to the bracelet and Tiffany makes each and every one of their pieces exact. I put mine under a magnifying glass and it's a fake.

I called her within an hour and we agreed to meet Monday she is not open today.

I can say this over and over it's the only way they can sell this type of stuff is is they have to guarantee that it's real.

Some of the responses have been really interesting. thanks for such entertainment. I am off to spend my day probably wearing something that would horrify some of you

Without taking it to Tiffany or a certified Jeweler, deciding something is fake off an internet picture is not verifying it is fake.

It is second hand. It is entirely possible that the clasp was broken at one point and had to be reattached to the bracelet.

As I said in my original post, you really need to take the piece to a certified jeweler and then go in with proof that it is a fake. Your opinion off an internet picture isn't going to hold much credibility.

 

[Green Tea]

Generally no, but for certain things, totally worth it. For example, I have a purse that I adore; I got it three years ago. It has a little corner of wear on it. I think I can go to the store and they will ship it to the manufacturer for repair. But I can also buy the purse on e-bay for X amount of dollars. If it costs me more to have the purse fixed than it would be to buy a new purse with tags attached, I'll buy it off ebay. (The store no longer carries this particular purse and other similar purses just don't have the look I want.)

Or Tom's. Tom's apparently gave the Sanford Food Bank several pairs of their shoes to sell. I heard about it and went online. They sold them via' E-bay for about $10 less than I would've paid retail. I got my shoes for a little bit less money; the Sanford Food Bank gets extra income. There are several charities who've had auctions this way that I've been notified about; if they've had something I want for a reasonable price, I've snatched it up. Everybody wins!

But it sounds as though you are like me--you bought the items because you LIKED them, not because they were a specific brand. That was the point of my post. It sounded as though the OP was looking for used merchandise because she wanted a particular label, not because she loved them. You, 3 years later are hoping to repair a bag you love. The OP is made because she sells gifts and buys better stuff only to find out she got cheated in the process. If the OP was buying what she loved, maybe she wouldn't be so quick to hawk them to the highest bidder to get a better brand.

 

[NikitaZee]

Wow, you guys sure are nasty this morning. Isn't there some rule about taking Sunday's off. The OP didn't come here for a psych evaluation, do you guys really have nothing better to do that pick her apart, searching for past posts etc.Its the last weekend of the summer, maybe some of you need to get a hobby.

 

[morethananyonex]

This is actually hilarious. A site full of people with signatures claiming 10 different stays at expensive Disney hotels and club levels, yet people jump on OP for mentioning designer labels .

And if people want to start curing world hunger and all those other issues, maybe the Disney trip budget should be the first to get hit, just saying .

 

[Coconut36]

Without taking it to Tiffany or a certified Jeweler, deciding something is fake off an internet picture is not verifying it is fake.

It is second hand. It is entirely possible that the clasp was broken at one point and had to be reattached to the bracelet.

As I said in my original post, you really need to take the piece to a certified jeweler and then go in with proof that it is a fake. Your opinion off an internet picture isn't going to hold much credibility.

This precisely. You are not an expert. You looked at a picture and deemed it a fake. I do not blame the store owner in the slightest in refusing you a refund.

A difference in how the clasp is attached doesn't guarantee fake..it likely means the clasp was repaired..a very common thing especially if the piece is older/has been worn quite a bit (and from your comments it is obviously well worn). If you are so certain you need to fork over the money and have it authenticated..my personal guess (no expert here) is that you have an authentic item that has been repaired at some point.

You can not dispute it with your CC and you can't demand she return it without a professional review of the item..your determination from an online picture means nothing legally (by the way..a guarantee they are authentic is not her return policy. ) What is the store return policy?

Until you have a certified by an expert nobody..neither the shop owner or the CC company are going to take you seriously (12 years in the CC industry here and no company is going to refund your money/dispute the charges without some sort of authentication..that will be a part of the investigation if you dispute it).

Also if you go around giving her poor reviews with nothing more than you looking at a picture the shop could go after you legally for spreading false information and possible damage to their business so I would be careful in that regard.

 

[unbeknownst]

OP -

Try reposting this at 'the purse form' (google for link). They have jewelry section and will probably be able to give you more advice about this kind of situation.

I bought a fake bag off of eBay and it was a learning experience ( I did get my money back).

Good luck!

 

[npmommie]

OP I agree, deciding its a fake from an internet picture is not precise.
Is it stamped signed and does it have the number on it for sterling silver? ( If its silver, you didn't say, I am just assuming)

all Tiffany pieces are stamped/signed

 

[goofy!]

This precisely. You are not an expert. You looked at a picture and deemed it a fake. I do not blame the store owner in the slightest in refusing you a refund.

A difference in how the clasp is attached doesn't guarantee fake..it likely means the clasp was repaired..a very common thing especially if the piece is older/has been worn quite a bit (and from your comments it is obviously well worn). If you are so certain you need to fork over the money and have it authenticated..my personal guess (no expert here) is that you have an authentic item that has been repaired at some point.

You can not dispute it with your CC and you can't demand she return it without a professional review of the item..your determination from an online picture means nothing legally (by the way..a guarantee they are authentic is not her return policy. ) What is the store return policy?

Until you have a certified by an expert nobody..neither the shop owner or the CC company are going to take you seriously (12 years in the CC industry here and no company is going to refund your money/dispute the charges without some sort of authentication..that will be a part of the investigation if you dispute it).

Also if you go around giving her poor reviews with nothing more than you looking at a picture the shop could go after you legally for spreading false information and possible damage to their business so I would be careful in that regard.

Exactly.
OP, not trying to be snarky, but if you want to be taken seriously, you need to go in calm, reasonable and with verified proof of your claim.

Without proof of authenticity, you will just look like an argumentative customer who at the very least has buyer's remorse or at the worst, suspected of trying to scam the shop owner.

Without proof, the shop owner can rebut your claim by stating that the clasp has been repaired and apparently well done as it took a microscope to see the repair and/or the fact that you are not an expert and your opinion is not worth the paper it is written on.

If you want the best chance to get your money back, you need to have the piece evaluated by an outside, impartial expert third party.

It could very well be a fake as you claim. However, without expert, impartial proof to back up your claim, a store owner has too many options to say no.

 

[Mad4Mickey]

Sorry this happened to you . I only buy from Tiffany from the store , no resale shops for me . I dont even sell to them .

 

[jaminmd]

I've never owned a Tiffany product. I'm curious OP, how much did you pay for the bracelet & what would it have cost new?

 

[Swan4Me]

This is actually hilarious. A site full of people with signatures claiming 10 different stays at expensive Disney hotels and club levels, yet people jump on OP for mentioning designer labels .

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Its not just designer labels-its very, very high end stuff-like $3000 shoes and $6000 purses-heck I could go on a few WDW trips for that much $$

Google Tiffany (if that's ok and not too "stalkerish")- silver bracelets can be had for $125-250 and up

 

[morethananyonex]

Its not just designer labels-its very, very high end stuff-like $3000 shoes and $6000 purses-heck I could go on a few WDW trips for that much $$

So what? Like that's any different then people advertising the fact that they stay in $800 a night rooms every year? I just found it humorous that one is okay around here but the other isn't.

 

[badblackpug]

Cavet Emptor. the authenticity of an item is only guaranteed if you buy it from an authorized dealer. While you may not be a scammer, there are plenty out there who are, which is why there are "no returns" policies. Did you ask to see the paperwork that guaranteed the item to be authentic before you bought it? Pretty much once you left the store, you owned the item.

 

[tlbwriter]

What I don't get is why you would even need something as silly as Christian Louboutin shoes or a Louis Vuitton bag. There are thousands of children in third-world countries who would do anything to have one pair of shoes to keep their feet from getting cut. That's what a shoe does, and if my seven-dollar-on-sale Payless shoes do just that, I'm fine with them. My jeans are not designer, heck, they're not even juniors jeans because they're too expensive. I wear fifteen-dollar-Kmart jeans because they do what they were designed to do-cover my butt!

In times like this, I don't understand why more people are simply grateful for what they have. You will not die if you wear that god-awful fake Tiffany piece to work. In fact, most people won't care. They might compliment you, you can thank them, and life goes on. You have a roof over your head, clothes to wear, and food to eat. There's nothing wrong with being thankful for that.

Well, if your goal was to make me sympathetic toward the OP, you accomplished it.

It is impossible that I could be scamming her this was a used bracelet it would have be nearly impossible for me to take a new fake and get it worn in such a way that could be returning a fake.

Impossible from your point of view, but put yourself in her shoes. She has a bracelet she believes is legit. She sells it to someone who takes it home and says "Oh, wait, it's fake!" How does she know you didn't already have the fake at home and were simply looking for an opportunity to run this scam?

I think it's none of anyone's business what I wear or why I want to wear it or who bought it for me.

Then you might want to stop posting about it.

it was not a secret and I am aware of that but that someone would put that kind of time into reading my back posts.

I see people do that a lot and I just think it's a little stalker like to go back read through everything they have said looking for something else about them you do not like!

If that is how she spent her Saturday night well, I hope she enjoyed it!

I'm always amused at people who think it takes HOURS to find their inconsistencies. It's actually fast and easy. And of course their defense is always "only a stalker would do that." No, not a stalker, just someone who remembers that you've (not just you, but other posters as well) said things in the past that influence how they read this particular post.

 

[CurlyGirl]

I have a Tiffany heart around my neck. I was with my husband when we purchased it at Tiffany & Co. on 5th and 57th. Mine does NOT have the additional ring at the top. Tiffany ONLY shows the heart as a charm with the ring around the loop. When it was purchased as a necklace, the chain went through the tag loop and there was no additonal ring. Here's the way Tiffany shows it and they don't sell it as a :complete" necklace: http://www.tiffany.com/shopping/Ite...5-p+14-c+288216-r+-x+CHM01-n+6-ri+-ni+0-t+-k+

Sorry ... but you might be wrong, OP. I'd take it to Tiffany to have it checked out!!!!

 

[DisneyFan32WI]

I think that based on your first conversation with the shop owner, you probably aren't going to get anywhere with a second conversation. I think first, you should actually find out if it is a fake or not. I don't know what can even be done if turns out to be fake. The shop owner will just accuse you of a bait-n-switch.

I can't relate to the high end items....I'm not good about taking care of my things.

 

[Disney Doll]

I'm guessing the shop owner isn't goign to budge. If you take it to Tiffany and they verify it as a fake, she's going to say "How do I know it's the one I sold you? Maybe you had a fake at home and are bringing THAT one back and keeping the authentic one that I sold you". And she'd be right, in one sense. Not saying that you did or would do that, but the shop owner really has no way of knowing that.

I'm guessing this is going to play out with you never going back into the store. She'll lose your business (which sounds like it's pretty good actually) over a $200 possibly fake Tiffany bracelet. Kinda silly on her part IMHO, but what do I know???

As far as your shopping habits or desire to have name brand items...as long as you aren't asking me ot pay for them, I couldn't care less what you buy!

 

[Art 1]

Sometimes a fake can get past an expert, that is how good some fakes can be. The general rule is that if you do sell a fake, by accident of course, that you do provide a refund. Top sellers of high end jewelry and watches will always refund a fake, always.