Double Wide Stroller Should Be Banned

[FLVacationGirl]

I am apparently guilty of having used a double-stroller on 2 Disney trips when my girls were 1 and 4 and then 2 and 5. On the 2nd trip I was there as a solo parent.

We are the type of people who treat walking like driving. We look before stepping into walking traffic, look around us before changing directions, are aware of our surroundings, step out of the way if we are stopping for any reason, and never just come to sudden stops. Why on earth do people do that anyway?

That said, there are a lot of stroller parents/families who I find to be a hazard and inconvenience in crowds. They would probably be just as bad with or without their strollers.

 

[lugnut33]

I am apparently guilty of having used a double-stroller on 2 Disney trips when my girls were 1 and 4 and then 2 and 5. On the 2nd trip I was there as a solo parent.

We are the type of people who treat walking like driving. We look before stepping into walking traffic, look around us before changing directions, are aware of our surroundings, step out of the way if we are stopping for any reason, and never just come to sudden stops. Why on earth do people do that anyway?

That said, there are a lot of stroller parents/families who I find to be a hazard and inconvenience in crowds. They would probably be just as bad with or without their strollers.

Well, I think t-catt11 needs some help on the teaching side, you up for it? You sound like you know what you're doing.

 

[Wadecool]

Yay for you, yes, you get points for doing the right thing.

Also... glad you like me so much. Will you serve as a character witness on my behalf when I get brought up on sarcasm charges?

I'd also be happy to serve as a character witness. And for the record, the actually do indict for sarcasm, I've been hit with it once or twice.
On second thought, I'm not sure how effective I would be as a character witness after all.

 

[Schleprok]

We used a city mini double stroller last year. It was like Death Race 2010 after the fireworks. Since then I have mounted one to the front of my car so I can plow through traffic from Birmingham.

t_catt11 Maybe if you had run Jefferson County, it wouldn't be the way it is. Guess common sense has no place in government.

 

[t_catt11]

I know, I was being sarcastic. Hence the

I know.

We need to be careful - self-referencing sarcasm might create a rip in space-time!

 

[pbrim]

But thanks for telling me that I should always have to pick up my three kids under the age of five if I want the priviledge of shopping with you in WDW. If one is asleep, or just tired out, too bad for them; stay in the heat, little ones! No stores for you!

Most of us, as we grow up, learn that when we make choices, however correct those choices are, they may well cut us off from other choices. You don't always get to do everything you want at the exact moment you want to do it.

You are the one who chose to have three children close together. I am sure you had good reasons for doing so, and those children add great joy to your life. You also chose to take them to WDW while they are still all under 5, and I am sure you enjoyed the trip. However, I was not privy to those choices, nor have I derived any benefit from them. How, then, did it become my responsiblity for dealing with the downside of those choices?

If your child is sleeping then you can either choose to wake him up or you can choose to do your shopping later. What you can not ethically choose to do is to take a sleeping kid into a store in a honking huge double stroller, block aisles, cause problems for others, and claim everyone has to put up with inconviences because you don't want to inconvience yourself to deal with the consequences of your choices. If you got to the head of the line for a ride, and your child were sleeping, would you insist that they block the line and prevent anyone else from getting on until your child woke up?

If your child is too tired out to behave himself in a store, then you go back to the hotel or find somewhere in the park for him to rest and get himself back under control. It's not my responsiblity to deal with his tantrums and mis-behavior because you would rather shop than make sure your child gets the rest he needs.

If you can't manage to handle your children in a shop without causing problems for others (like blocking aisles, or turning over displays), then either you don't shop, you bring along enough adults so that you can handle the kids, or you wait until they are older before going to Disney. This is not an impossible task -- there are plenty of strollers in the stoller parking near shops.

Children get tired, fall asleep, sometimes do stupid things. They're children. But you are the adult, and it is your responsiblity to deal with your children, however inconvienent you find that, rather than expecting everyone else around you to take up your slack.

 

[afwdwfan]

lugnut, I'm glad you started this thread... and I'm glad to see that you finally, if reluctantly, relented and approved double stroller use so long as drivers are licensed. This has been a very entertaining thread today. I usually avoid the hot button threads around here and stay out of it, but the arguments, humor and sarcasm on both sides of this issue has been fantastic.

 

[DVC-Don]

We always had a double long stroller back in the day. The kids took turns in the front seat. Doublewides are too inconvenient for others to get around.

 

[t_catt11]

Most of us, as we grow up, learn that when we make choices, however correct those choices are, they may well cut us off from other choices. You don't always get to do everything you want at the exact moment you want to do it.

You are the one who chose to have three children close together. I am sure you had good reasons for doing so, and those children add great joy to your life. You also chose to take them to WDW while they are still all under 5, and I am sure you enjoyed the trip. However, I was not privy to those choices, nor have I derived any benefit from them. How, then, did it become my responsiblity for dealing with the downside of those choices?

If your child is sleeping then you can either choose to wake him up or you can choose to do your shopping later. What you can not ethically choose to do is to take a sleeping kid into a store in a honking huge double stroller, block aisles, cause problems for others, and claim everyone has to put up with inconviences because you don't want to inconvience yourself to deal with the consequences of your choices. If you got to the head of the line for a ride, and your child were sleeping, would you insist that they block the line and prevent anyone else from getting on until your child woke up?

If your child is too tired out to behave himself in a store, then you go back to the hotel or find somewhere in the park for him to rest and get himself back under control. It's not my responsiblity to deal with his tantrums and mis-behavior because you would rather shop than make sure your child gets the rest he needs.

If you can't manage to handle your children in a shop without causing problems for others (like blocking aisles, or turning over displays), then either you don't shop, you bring along enough adults so that you can handle the kids, or you wait until they are older before going to Disney. This is not an impossible task -- there are plenty of strollers in the stoller parking near shops.

Children get tired, fall asleep, sometimes do stupid things. They're children. But you are the adult, and it is your responsiblity to deal with your children, however inconvienent you find that, rather than expecting everyone else around you to take up your slack.

Awww, thanks for the parenting advice! It is very much appreciated! Silly me, I thought all along that I had the right to inconvenience others simply because of the size of my family.

Oh, wait. I never said anything that even resembled this. Tee hee!

Perhaps you have missed my multiple posts to this thread. Hey, tl;dr... I get it. Let me rehash:

Blocking an aisle with your big, honking stroller is rude, and you shouldn't do it. If you cannot maneuver the stroller inside of the store, leave it outside.

If you had taken the time to read my posts, you would have probably gleaned these two points (since I've made them several times). It's not at all fair for me to intrude upon the vacations of others in order to grant myself extra convenience.

Neither is it your place to tell me that I cannot bring my stroller into a store, period. If you disagree, by all means, please let Disney know. wdw.guest.commuications@disneyworld.com. Perhaps they will see the enlightenment that you propose, and will institute just such a policy!

My souvenir dollars believe otherwise, but I've been fooled before.

 

[Wadecool]

Awww, thanks for the parenting advice! It is very much appreciated! Silly me, I thought all along that I had the right to inconvenience others simply because of the size of my family.

Oh, wait. I never said anything that even resembled this. Tee hee!

Perhaps you have missed my multiple posts to this thread. Hey, tl;dr... I get it. Let me rehash:

Blocking an aisle with your big, honking stroller is rude, and you shouldn't do it. If you cannot maneuver the stroller inside of the store, leave it outside.

If you had taken the time to read my posts, you would have probably gleaned these two points (since I've made them several times). It's not at all fair for me to intrude upon the vacations of others in order to grant myself extra
convenience.

Neither is it your place to tell me that I cannot bring my stroller into a store, period. If you disagree, by all means, please let Disney know. wdw.guest.commuications@disneyworld.com. Perhaps they will see the enlightenment that you propose, and will institute just such a policy!

My souvenir dollars believe otherwise, but I've been fooled before.

I'm guessing WDW will enact that policy around the same time they stop charging for parking, or Hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

 

[t_catt11]

I'm guessing WDW will enact that policy around the same time they stop charging for parking, or Hell freezes over, whichever comes first.

Likely a very accurate statement.

We used a city mini double stroller last year. It was like Death Race 2010 after the fireworks. Since then I have mounted one to the front of my car so I can plow through traffic from Birmingham.

t_catt11 Maybe if you had run Jefferson County, it wouldn't be the way it is. Guess common sense has no place in government.

Having worked for an organization run by a government agency, I can heartily agree to this.

 

[lugnut33]

lugnut, I'm glad you started this thread... and I'm glad to see that you finally, if reluctantly, relented and approved double stroller use so long as drivers are licensed. This has been a very entertaining thread today. I usually avoid the hot button threads around here and stay out of it, but the arguments, humor and sarcasm on both sides of this issue has been fantastic.

This tread turned out exactly as I had hoped, fun and free.

 

[t_catt11]

This tread turned out exactly as I had hoped, fun and free.

Says the guy not drawing ire from several sides.

 

[Schleprok]

We always had a double long stroller back in the day. The kids took turns in the front seat. Doublewides are too inconvenient for others to get around.

The long strollers are more inconvenient for people trying to cross in front of you and take up way more space to turn around. Doubles at least the citi minni has a 0 turn radius. That is why we left our long double at home and rented.

Also, the side by side stroller is less wide than 2 adults walking beside each other. If people would just go with the flow and not try to weave their way threw the crowd they would not have to worry about a stroller, wheel chair or EV.

 

[t_catt11]

The long strollers are more inconvenient for people trying to cross in front of you and take up way more space to turn around. Doubles at least the citi minni has a 0 turn radius. That is why we left our long double at home and rented.

Also, the side by side stroller is less wide than 2 adults walking beside each other. If people would just go with the flow and not try to weave their way threw the crowd they would not have to worry about a stroller, wheel chair or EV.

Here we go again, somebody trying to talk sense. Don't you know that this silly tactic doesn't work??

 

[Tara922c]

If everything and everyone that at one time unconvinced (or really annoyed) another person at wdw were banned from wdw, there would be nothing left but a big swamp. Just something to think about.

 

[mhconley]

Behold the mighty Disney dozer...

 

[Mom of 2 Wife of 1]

This tread turned out exactly as I had hoped, fun and free.

Oh, lugnut... Your dislike of all-things Disney has now shown itself in several ongoing threads. You stir the pot with a controversial issue and then hang around to critique any reply.

But for all your hatred of WDW, you still gave them your money and will continue to do so in the future and you know it. What's even funnier is that you troll these boards with frivolous posts, wasting even more time in Disney's honor, thereby providing the company with free publicity.

On behalf of Disney, I thank you. Once again, Disney wins and you've lost, but I think we've already established that, haven't we?

 

[maxiesmom]

Believe it or not, Disney already has a size limit on strollers. I'm not sure how much effort they put into enforcing it, but it is there.

 

[Disneymadhouse]

I think the best solution to the stroller in a store issue is for Disney to put great big huge pack n plays outside each store so that parents can dump / leave / place their kids in them while they shop in the store. But then maybe this would get abused by the parents with only a single stroller. They could put their kids in the "holding area" whilst they went into the store, and would be able to shop a lot easier than with their kid pulling things off the shelves, demanding to be bought x, y and z.
The pack and play holding areas should be reserved for those with 2 or more stroller age children. Oh but wait - thats a whole other debate - what age is the tops for using a stroller at WDW?!
Anyway seeing as I thought of the idea, when it gets implemented I will have full rights to using these even though I only have 1 child. It will save me a fortune on stuff I would have bought DD!!!

Claire