Double Wide Stroller Should Be Banned

[mom2rtk]

Yeah....... shame on anyone who, when considering the impact of their LIFE CHOICES, did not anticipate someone on the DIS wanting to strip them of their double stroller priveleges!

 

[A Mickeyfan]

They did not make double wide until my kids were too old to go in them.. my 2 that were close in age that is.. we managed without them.. . I am not saying I like them, nor am I saying I don't. I'm just saying I managed without them.. however, if I had twins, that would have been a bit harder.. my older 2 are 22 /12 months apart

 

[dvcmom72]

You are the one who chose to have three children close together. I am sure you had good reasons for doing so, and those children add great joy to your life. You also chose to take them to WDW while they are still all under 5, and I am sure you enjoyed the trip. However, I was not privy to those choices, nor have I derived any benefit from them. How, then, did it become my responsiblity for dealing with the downside of those choices?

I think YOU (not just you but anyone who has this thing against children and strollers) CHOOSE to take your vacations in the most popular destination for FAMILY vacations. Perhaps you should re-think your CHOICES on where to vacation?? I don't know even know what else to say about your post...it's baffling. I typically stay away from these heated threads...other than scanning them for the good stuff...but this one has pushed my buttons. As someone else said...Disney ALLOWS strollers everywhere, even IN the stores...so we're going in...deal with it.

 

[mom2rtk]

I think YOU (not just you but anyone who has this thing against children and strollers) CHOOSE to take your vacations in the most popular destination for FAMILY vacations. Perhaps you should re-think your CHOICES on where to vacation?? I don't know even know what else to say about your post...it's baffling. I typically stay away from these heated threads...other than scanning them for the good stuff...but this one has pushed my buttons. As someone else said...Disney ALLOWS strollers everywhere, even IN the stores...so we're going in...deal with it.

DING! DING! DING!

We have a WINNER!

 

[afwdwfan]

I think YOU (not just you but anyone who has this thing against children and strollers) CHOOSE to take your vacations in the most popular destination for FAMILY vacations. Perhaps you should re-think your CHOICES on where to vacation?? I don't know even know what else to say about your post...it's baffling. I typically stay away from these heated threads...other than scanning them for the good stuff...but this one has pushed my buttons. As someone else said...Disney ALLOWS strollers everywhere, even IN the stores...so we're going in...deal with it.

Some people just don't want to be near kids... kind of like the new fad of restaurants banning kids. Same basic concept.

 

[M5ward]

This is one of the most stupid threads ever. Strollers, including doubles are not going to be banned at Disney parks. This thread started to get nasty when the sixth post started with " no need for it to get ugly" then proceeded to do do just that. I don't think most people have any objection to strollers or children ( contrary to what some posters have deduced.) The problem lies with the pusher of the stroller not the size of the stroller. There are people who are going to be rude and inconsiderate regardless of whether they are pushing a stroller or not.

 

[Sleeping Becca]

Some people just don't want to be near kids... kind of like the new fad of restaurants banning kids. Same basic concept.

I think it is fine for restaurants to not allow children. Sometimes adults want to have an adult only experience. Some adults don't like to be around children.

However complaining about kids at Disney is akin to complaining about fish at a seafood restaurant.

Methinks that poster who is dishing out the child rearing tips is not a parent.

 

[fan1080]

Most of us, as we grow up, learn that when we make choices, however correct those choices are, they may well cut us off from other choices. You don't always get to do everything you want at the exact moment you want to do it.

You are the one who chose to have three children close together. I am sure you had good reasons for doing so, and those children add great joy to your life. You also chose to take them to WDW while they are still all under 5, and I am sure you enjoyed the trip. However, I was not privy to those choices, nor have I derived any benefit from them. How, then, did it become my responsiblity for dealing with the downside of those choices?

If your child is sleeping then you can either choose to wake him up or you can choose to do your shopping later. What you can not ethically choose to do is to take a sleeping kid into a store in a honking huge double stroller, block aisles, cause problems for others, and claim everyone has to put up with inconviences because you don't want to inconvience yourself to deal with the consequences of your choices. If you got to the head of the line for a ride, and your child were sleeping, would you insist that they block the line and prevent anyone else from getting on until your child woke up?

If your child is too tired out to behave himself in a store, then you go back to the hotel or find somewhere in the park for him to rest and get himself back under control. It's not my responsiblity to deal with his tantrums and mis-behavior because you would rather shop than make sure your child gets the rest he needs.

If you can't manage to handle your children in a shop without causing problems for others (like blocking aisles, or turning over displays), then either you don't shop, you bring along enough adults so that you can handle the kids, or you wait until they are older before going to Disney. This is not an impossible task -- there are plenty of strollers in the stoller parking near shops.

Children get tired, fall asleep, sometimes do stupid things. They're children. But you are the adult, and it is your responsiblity to deal with your children, however inconvienent you find that, rather than expecting everyone else around you to take up your slack.

Yikes!!!

This one is my latest candidate for most ill-informed and mis-guided post on the DIS.

Congrats.

 

[dvcmom72]

I completely agree 100% that the "pusher of the stroller" is the problem. I just feel like anyone who has uses a stroller (including those of us that are very careful and are aware of our surroundings) take a real beating...we get lumped into the category of "stroller people"...like teenagers, tour groups, whatever...and I think it's unfair. I have never, and never will, use my stroller as a "plow".

 

[McIntoshMango]

This is one of the most stupid threads ever. Strollers, including doubles. Are not going to be banned at Disney parks. This thread started to get nasty when the sixth post started with " no need for it to get ugly" then proceeded to do do just that. I don't think most people have any objection to strollers or children ( contrary to what some posters have deduced.). The problem lies with the pusher of the stroller not the size of the stroller. There are people who are going to be rude and inconsiderate regardless of whether they are pushing a stroller or not.

I don't want to be knocked around by anyone. Strollers don't ram people, people ram people...

 

[peachygreen]

Straw man much? Now I'm a horrible person for saying nasty things that I never actually said at all! If I say it is unethical to do X, and you are not doing X, then I'm not calling you unethical, am I?

What I said was "If you can't manage to handle your children in a shop without causing problems for others ..." If you're not causing problems for others, then clearly I'm not talking about you. Why are you assuming I am?

Your exact words were

"If your child is sleeping then you can either choose to wake him up or you can choose to do your shopping later. What you can not ethically choose to do is to take a sleeping kid into a store in a honking huge double stroller, block aisles, cause problems for others, and claim everyone has to put up with inconviences because you don't want to inconvience yourself to deal with the consequences of your choices.

I never said you were talking about me. I don't use a double stroller, I barely use a stroller. You are the one who said you can not ethically choose to take a child in a big stoller into a store and block aisles. Just because it blocks aisles for you doesn't mean the person with the stroller is in the wrong. Most people will move if you say excuse me. You make is sound like someone's choice to have children close together and choose to use a double stroller is an inconvience to you and therefore it is not an ethical choice for someone to make.

I'll be completely honest with you there are some places in Disney that you are going to inconvience someone just by standing in the aisle big stroller or not because you are "blocking" where someone wants to be just because you are looking at something.

The part I was appalled at was your attitude against someone who said they were responsible with their children and your attitude about their decision to have 3 kids close together and that if they couldn't handle 3 kids without a stoller maybe they shouldn't go to Disney because you are inconvienced by someone having a stroller that you have to walk an extra 3 feet to get around.

There are a lot of inconsiderate people in the world both with and without strollers that are a great inconvience to many people in the stroller.

 

[afwdwfan]

I think it is fine for restaurants to not allow children. Sometimes adults want to have an adult only experience. Some adults don't like to be around children.

However complaining about kids at Disney is akin to complaining about fish at a seafood restaurant.

Methinks that poster who is dishing out the child rearing tips is not a parent.

Yeah... don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the concept. If you own a business, then as far as I'm concerned, that's completely your decision as to who you want your market to be. Kind of like it has been stated several times... if someone doesn't want double strollers or kids in a store, they can tell Disney and let them make that call.

I was just making the point that it seems like there's this wave of momentum building towards people without children wanting absolutely nothing to do with them and some of the comments in this thread just made me think of it.

I'm pretty sure your last sentence is correct as well...

 

[Pookasaurus]

My decision to have children ensured another generation of our species, another generation to work and provide you with care as you grow older, another generation to pay taxes for the things you take for granted, another round of cast members to sweep the paths, staff the parks, and check you out once you are able to get past the double stroller and to the register with your t-shirts in your golden years.

You're welcome! Now simmer down, remember this, and smile while you wait behind me as I browse the snow globes with my snotty, crying, crabby kids, aka your future leaders, in their double stroller. I'll try not to take too long Have a magical day!

 

[magicluvinmom]

Most of us, as we grow up, learn that when we make choices, however correct those choices are, they may well cut us off from other choices. You don't always get to do everything you want at the exact moment you want to do it.

You are the one who chose to have three children close together. I am sure you had good reasons for doing so, and those children add great joy to your life. You also chose to take them to WDW while they are still all under 5, and I am sure you enjoyed the trip. However, I was not privy to those choices, nor have I derived any benefit from them. How, then, did it become my responsiblity for dealing with the downside of those choices?

If your child is sleeping then you can either choose to wake him up or you can choose to do your shopping later. What you can not ethically choose to do is to take a sleeping kid into a store in a honking huge double stroller, block aisles, cause problems for others, and claim everyone has to put up with inconviences because you don't want to inconvience yourself to deal with the consequences of your choices. If you got to the head of the line for a ride, and your child were sleeping, would you insist that they block the line and prevent anyone else from getting on until your child woke up?

If your child is too tired out to behave himself in a store, then you go back to the hotel or find somewhere in the park for him to rest and get himself back under control. It's not my responsiblity to deal with his tantrums and mis-behavior because you would rather shop than make sure your child gets the rest he needs.

If you can't manage to handle your children in a shop without causing problems for others (like blocking aisles, or turning over displays), then either you don't shop, you bring along enough adults so that you can handle the kids, or you wait until they are older before going to Disney. This is not an impossible task -- there are plenty of strollers in the stoller parking near shops.

Children get tired, fall asleep, sometimes do stupid things. They're children. But you are the adult, and it is your responsiblity to deal with your children, however inconvienent you find that, rather than expecting everyone else around you to take up your slack.

I am at a loss for words

Your exact words were

"If your child is sleeping then you can either choose to wake him up or you can choose to do your shopping later. What you can not ethically choose to do is to take a sleeping kid into a store in a honking huge double stroller, block aisles, cause problems for others, and claim everyone has to put up with inconviences because you don't want to inconvience yourself to deal with the consequences of your choices.

I never said you were talking about me. I don't use a double stroller, I barely use a stroller. You are the one who said you can not ethically choose to take a child in a big stoller into a store and block aisles. Just because it blocks aisles for you doesn't mean the person with the stroller is in the wrong. Most people will move if you say excuse me. You make is sound like someone's choice to have children close together and choose to use a double stroller is an inconvience to you and therefore it is not an ethical choice for someone to make.

I'll be completely honest with you there are some places in Disney that you are going to inconvience someone just by standing in the aisle big stroller or not because you are "blocking" where someone wants to be just because you are looking at something.

The part I was appalled at was your attitude against someone who said they were responsible with their children and your attitude about their decision to have 3 kids close together and that if they couldn't handle 3 kids without a stoller maybe they shouldn't go to Disney because you are inconvienced by someone having a stroller that you have to walk an extra 3 feet to get around.

There are a lot of inconsiderate people in the world both with and without strollers that are a great inconvience to many people in the stroller.

I am glad others were not at a loss for words. I second this reply as well as the nomination for most I'll informed post. I do not however mind the adult only resturant. I will gladly eat there on date night

 

[mom2rtk]

I just had a thought. Maybe the OP would want to try visiting DLC (Disneyland China). I'm thinking they don't need double strollers there.

 

[Sleeping Becca]

I just had a thought. Maybe the OP would want to try visiting DLC (Disneyland China). I'm thinking they don't need double strollers there.

bahahahahaha Good one!

 

[stackyallred]

I feel sad at how many threads I have seen lately that focus on "you or your choices inconvenience me therefore you are wrong." We are all different. We can choose to make the best of it or get angry/frustrated/bitter. I am not saying you should pretend to like everything or never express how you feel, but it is exhausting to focus on the negatives. Entitlement is an ugly thing.

 

[canopynut66]

I understand the need for strollers, and we used a single wide when our kids were young. However, those double wide strollers are a pain to get around for everyone in the park. Worse yet is when they bring them into buildings. Often times there is no way around them. I can't imagine using a double wide at WDW is easy either. They should just ban them, even if that's what WDW rents.

BTW, at no point during our trip did I even notice the ECVs or wheelchairs, just the doublewide strollers plowing their way through the crowd.

Some families have several small ones some have multiples and they need these strollers and hey were all on vacation relax and slow down and enjoy life..WDW will still be there

 

[Oglet]

I feel sad at how many threads I have seen lately that focus on "you or your choices inconvenience me therefore you are wrong." We are all different. We can choose to make the best of it or get angry/frustrated/bitter. I am not saying you should pretend to like everything or never express how you feel, but it is exhausting to focus on the negatives. Entitlement is an ugly thing.

Couldn't agree more.

You know we associate Disney with being family friendly, fun, clean and good old wholesome fun for everyone.

I'm not too sure I can say the same about The Dis. I like this place and Its great that everyone can have their own opinion but the amount of trash talking, sarcasm and in general lack of respect many people show towards each other is certainly not what I believe these forums were created for.

It's not the fact we disagree on things, its how we are expressing it.

Yes, I've been guilty on occasion of not being a perfect little Disney student on here but guys, this is getting old.

 

[lugnut33]

Let's review now that we are up to a bazillion pages:

1. I said lets ban double wide strollers only.

2. Most people disagreed.

3. Some people agreed.

4. OP (that's me) had a change of heart, OK to use double wide if you are certified to use one safely and not clog up the buildings.

5. Thread became funny.

6. Thread has become not so funny as people became serious again.

7. Thread should become funny again... please.