Double Wide Stroller Should Be Banned

[Sleeping Becca]

The whole issue is inflammatory and quite frankly ridiculous.

Disney will never ban double strollers.

Just like Disney will never ban 2 year olds or the elderly or hairless mutes named Jill.

A ridiculous statement deserves ridiculous responses.

silly begets silly

and personally silliness is my fav form of discourse

 

[t_catt11]

Ive been hit with strollers (single and double) and also wheel chairs.

As have I. I have also been elbowed, shoulder bumped, and plain walked into more times than I can count.

This has which to do with the price of tea in China?

 

[magicluvinmom]

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The whole issue is inflammatory and quite frankly ridiculous.

Disney will never ban double strollers.

Just like Disney will never ban 2 year olds or the elderly or hairless mutes named Jill.

A ridiculous statement deserves ridiculous responses.

 

[t_catt11]

The whole issue is inflammatory and quite frankly ridiculous.

Disney will never ban double strollers.

Just like Disney will never ban 2 year olds or the elderly or hairless mutes named Jill.

A ridiculous statement deserves ridiculous responses.

silly begets silly

and personally silliness is my fav form of discourse

Well spoken!

Also, we hit the "over" after all.

 

[afwdwfan]

The whole issue is inflammatory and quite frankly ridiculous.

Disney will never ban double strollers.

Just like Disney will never ban 2 year olds or the elderly or hairless mutes named Jill.

A ridiculous statement deserves ridiculous responses.

silly begets silly

and personally silliness is my fav form of discourse

Well said. I couldn't agree more!

 

[maxiesmom]

The position that double strollers should be banned is truly a self-serving, short-sighted proposal that does nothing to address the underlying cause of rudeness among park guests, but merely singles out a group of easily identifyable people that the proponents of this idea do not belong to (they are different from us, and are therefore bad).

That is truly spot on.

 

[AmberHeartsDisney]

As have I. I have also been elbowed, shoulder bumped, and plain walked into more times than I can count.

This has which to do with the price of tea in China?

I thought this thread was about "strollers" was it not?

Your still mad about the other day huh?

 

[Wadecool]

Tell you what - I'll humor you.

I disagree with your position. I believe that it is patently ridiculous to ban double strollers from WDW.

If a family has more than one small child, a double stroller can be a great convenience for getting around. If the family has more than two small children, a double stroller becomes almost a necessity. Toddlers and preschoolers simply cannot walk the 10-20 miles per day that are covered in a typical WDW trip, and single strollers are not practical for this larger family.

The issue of having to deal with people blocking aisles in a store with their double stroller is slightly more valid - but only slightly moreso. The solution to this problem is for people to use consideration and related good manners, and to not obstruct others whenever possible. Do note that poor manners are
hardly confined to those who push double strollers; all sorts of people will block your way at WDW; many of them (but not all) do so unintentionally.

Disney would only ban double strollers if there was a safety issue at play, as doing so would cut in to their profits. Many times, it is not practical for a parent to park a stroller before entering a store that otherwise could accomodate it; that parent would likely spend less (or no) money at the establishment, and Disney knows this.

Furthermore, every small child removed from a stroller is one that is likely to be walking around for a good portion of their visits to stores. Small children are likely to dart in front of you, to bump into you, or to slow you down, due to the fact that they do not appreciate their relationship to others around, and they move slower most of the time. Even worse, higher numbers of children
not in strollers will equate to higher numbers of children with little nor no effective supervision. Disney could expect increased breakage and pilferage (of small items) if children were not allowed to remain in strollers, and guests could expect less pleasant shopping experiences overall.

The position that double strollers should be banned is truly a self-serving, short-sighted proposal that does nothing to address the underlying cause of rudeness among park guests, but merely singles out a group of easily identifyable people that the proponents of this idea do not belong to (they are different from us, and are therefore bad).

There, is that better?

Bravo! Well said! And you even managed to do it without any name calling.

 

[t_catt11]

I thought this thread was about "strollers" was it not?

Your still mad about the other day huh?

I like to debate. In case you haven't read this thread, I've participated hot and heavy in this one, and haven't attempted to curb my natural sarcasm one bit.

You made a statement that seemed to add nothing to the discussion. I commented on said statement.

The other day? Psh. I have butted heads with MikeandReneePlus5 more times than I care to recall (typically on line/fastpass threads). We still manage to agree on most other issues. The fact that you and I disagreed on something else does not mean that I am automatically "out to get you" on a given thread; I have pretty systematically gone on the offensive against the anti stroller crowd, here.

Don't read more into it than is there.

 

[t_catt11]

Bravo! Well said! And you even managed to do it without any name calling.

Well, thanks. I thought that I had managed that for the whole thread.

Now, I did manage to state my argument without using sarcasm... I've not been as successful with that.

 

[lugnut33]

lugnut33 - you are one of the most adept posters at taking a thread to 8 pages in under 5 hours. There should be award you can add to your avatar!

Yeah, it's like I'm a lightning rod or something. In this thread I just pointed out one thing, double wide strollers and bang, lightning struck.

I'm still disappointed that the thread I started on the restaurant board got locked down due to trollers coming in and messing up the place.

 

[lugnut33]

Tell you what - I'll humor you.

I disagree with your position. I believe that it is patently ridiculous to ban double strollers from WDW.

If a family has more than one small child, a double stroller can be a great convenience for getting around. If the family has more than two small children, a double stroller becomes almost a necessity. Toddlers and preschoolers simply cannot walk the 10-20 miles per day that are covered in a typical WDW trip, and single strollers are not practical for this larger family.

The issue of having to deal with people blocking aisles in a store with their double stroller is slightly more valid - but only slightly moreso. The solution to this problem is for people to use consideration and related good manners, and to not obstruct others whenever possible. Do note that poor manners are hardly confined to those who push double strollers; all sorts of people will block your way at WDW; many of them (but not all) do so unintentionally.

Disney would only ban double strollers if there was a safety issue at play, as doing so would cut in to their profits. Many times, it is not practical for a parent to park a stroller before entering a store that otherwise could accomodate it; that parent would likely spend less (or no) money at the establishment, and Disney knows this.

Furthermore, every small child removed from a stroller is one that is likely to be walking around for a good portion of their visits to stores. Small children are likely to dart in front of you, to bump into you, or to slow you down, due to the fact that they do not appreciate their relationship to others around, and they move slower most of the time. Even worse, higher numbers of children not in strollers will equate to higher numbers of children with little nor no effective supervision. Disney could expect increased breakage and pilferage (of small items) if children were not allowed to remain in strollers, and guests could expect less pleasant shopping experiences overall.

The position that double strollers should be banned is truly a self-serving, short-sighted proposal that does nothing to address the underlying cause of rudeness among park guests, but merely singles out a group of easily identifyable people that the proponents of this idea do not belong to (they are different from us, and are therefore bad).



There, is that better?

Don't forget, in my original post I said double wide, double long is fine.

And then later I have agreed to allow double wides as long as you are there intructing and handing out double wide stroller drivers liscenses.

 

[AmberHeartsDisney]

I like to debate. In case you haven't read this thread, I've participated hot and heavy in this one, and haven't attempted to curb my natural sarcasm one bit.

You made a statement that seemed to add nothing to the discussion. I commented on said statement.

The other day? Psh. I have butted heads with MikeandReneePlus5 more times than I care to recall (typically on line/fastpass threads). We still manage to agree on most other issues. The fact that you and I disagreed on something else does not mean that I am automatically "out to get you" on a given thread; I have pretty systematically gone on the offensive against the anti stroller crowd, here.

Don't read more into it than is there.

I did read the whole thread.

I wrote about 3 (non person) things that have hit me in the park,one of the items was the "double stroller" in question.

Anyways I can see both sides to this story. I have seen people use the strollers as "weapons" at parking opening(maybe i need one of these to get fast passes for TSM?)

I have also seen little ones in them sleeping and that allows the older kids to still ride rides.

Either way people need to use them for there real purpose. Transportation not mauling.

 

[t_catt11]

Don't forget, in my original post I said double wide, double long is fine.

And then later I have agreed to allow double wides as long as you are there intructing and handing out double wide stroller drivers liscenses.

Yeah, but now, I have to get Disney to put me on the payroll, relocate me to Celebration, help me hire a staff (since I can't possibly be there 24/7, let alone oversee every guest in a given timeframe)... wow, I'm gonna be busy!

 

[t_catt11]

I did read the whole thread.

I wrote about 3 (non person) things that have hit me in the park,one of the items was the "double stroller" in question.

Anyways I can see both sides to this story. I have seen people use the strollers as "weapons" at parking opening(maybe i need one of these to get fast passes for TSM?)

I have also seen little ones in them sleeping and that allows the older kids to still ride rides.

Either way people need to use them for there real purpose. Transportation not mauling.

We can agree on this. I would further agree that using a stroller in an inconsiderate manner is bad.

 

[dvcmom72]

This is the first time a thread has made me SO angry, yet at the same time made me laugh hysterically. Awesome, I mean it!

t-catt11...I love you. 150% agree with EVERY WORD you said.

I have a just turned 3 year old and we are headed to WDW in 10 days. So no I don't have a double stroller but I do have a stroller (as long as they are still allowed by the time we get there!!) Like a lot of others have said, I am very careful about my "driving"...but I cannot even tell you the number of times people have stopped short in front of me in a crowd, or darted out from nowhere and ran right in front of me. As hard as I try to stop...sometimes I still get them. My fault? Nope. But trust me I get looks that could kill from these idiots. It's all about manners...whether you're the one "driving" or you're the one trying to get around us "stroller people".

Anyway...my son JUST turned 3 a few days ago and I am buying him a ticket...not trying to pass him off as a 2 year old which I am sure I could get away with. Can I get some points for that please??

 

[t_catt11]

This is the first time a thread has made me SO angry, yet at the same time made me laugh hysterically. Awesome, I mean it!

t-catt11...I love you. 150% agree with EVERY WORD you said.

I have a just turned 3 year old and we are headed to WDW in 10 days. So no I don't have a double stroller but I do have a stroller (as long as they are still allowed by the time we get there!!) Like a lot of others have said, I am very careful about my "driving"...but I cannot even tell you the number of times people have stopped short in front of me in a crowd, or darted out from nowhere and ran right in front of me. As hard as I try to stop...sometimes I still get them. My fault? Nope. But trust me I get looks that could kill from these idiots. It's all about manners...whether you're the one "driving" or you're the one trying to get around us "stroller people".

Anyway...my son JUST turned 3 a few days ago and I am buying him a ticket...not trying to pass him off as a 2 year old which I am sure I could get away with. Can I get some points for that please??

Yay for you, yes, you get points for doing the right thing.

Also... glad you like me so much. Will you serve as a character witness on my behalf when I get brought up on sarcasm charges?

 

[lugnut33]

This is the first time a thread has made me SO angry, yet at the same time made me laugh hysterically. Awesome, I mean it!

t-catt11...I love you. 150% agree with EVERY WORD you said.

I have a just turned 3 year old and we are headed to WDW in 10 days. So no I don't have a double stroller but I do have a stroller (as long as they are still allowed by the time we get there!!) Like a lot of others have said, I am very careful about my "driving"...but I cannot even tell you the number of times people have stopped short in front of me in a crowd, or darted out from nowhere and ran right in front of me. As hard as I try to stop...sometimes I still get them. My fault? Nope. But trust me I get looks that could kill from these idiots. It's all about manners...whether you're the one "driving" or you're the one trying to get around us "stroller people".

Anyway...my son JUST turned 3 a few days ago and I am buying him a ticket...not trying to pass him off as a 2 year old which I am sure I could get away with. Can I get some points for that please??

You shouldn't get angry over any thread on the Dis Boards. Remember, it's just somebody's opinion, no matter how absurd it may be.

Though I may not trust you with a stroller, since it's only a single wide you are free to enter without a problem.

 

[dvcmom72]

Character witness? Yes, absolutely.

And no, I typically don't get angry when I read things on here. For whatever reason this one really got to me. As you said...absurd. I just think some of the comments made (not going to single anyone out) were so downright rude.
Must be nice being the perfect parent to perfect children. Or perhaps these people don't have children and therefore don't have a clue. And no lugnut I am not referring to you.

I hope somebody posts it if children are banned entirely from WDW before September 11th. Would hate to waste a trip. Thanks.

 

[Wadecool]

Well, thanks. I thought that I had managed that for the whole thread.

Now, I did manage to state my argument without using sarcasm... I've not been as successful with that.

I know, I was being sarcastic. Hence the