docsoliday1
DIS Dad #834 Cubs, Dolphins fan forever
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Now that I'm finally at a real keyboard, I can respond...I can't do KETO. I tried the Adkins diet and lost a bunch of weight, but was sick of eating all that meat and gained it back. I do better on a whole food, fruits and vegetable diet with little to no meat, following the science from the China Study. They frown on pizza and beer though as well.
Regardless of the diet, if you go back to beer and pizza, it will reverse any good effects long term.

Keto and Atkins are not the same. It's not about eating a bunch of meat. I did South Beach which was a take off of Atkins and I couldn't maintain it either. Most diets don't work for me because they want you to stick to fish and chicken for the most part. I don't like fish and there's only so much chicken I can eat before I get sick of it. Keto is different...It's about limiting carbs and having some protein and more oils (good oils like olive, coconut or grass fed butter [Kerrygold is the bomb])
Typical meals for me:
Scrambled eggs & ham with heavy whipping cream and kerrygold butter to raise fat content.
Salad with boiled egg and bacon for protein, maybe some nuts, oil & vinegar (or home made ranch)
Hamburger patty or brat or some other meat (I happen to love meat and would never get tired of it) and brocoli with cheese/whipping cream or green beans with kerrygold butter
Atkins, was all about protein and veggies, but also wanted low fat so you had to go out and buy the most expensive (least fat) ground beef or leanest cuts of steak, etc. Keto has no such specification/limitation. Normal ground beef is good and has better taste.
There are several keto pizza dough options. I happen to love pepperoni, which is high fat content and keto good, but you can do plain cheese or veggie or whatever. The dough replaces the carbs in normal dough with keto "friendly" ingredients.
The thing is, eating more oils helps your body to be more efficient and helps keep you full, so you don't want (or eat) as much. If you don't like meat or get sick of it, there are other protein options for you and since it's not designed just about meat, no big deal.
The percentages are 5% carbs, 30% protein, 65% fat. (this is percentage of calories). Since a tablespoon of coconut oil is 170 calories, if you do the math, you don't have to go nuts on oils the way it would initially sound.
Think of it this way(just an example)...if you do 2000 calories a day, 1300 of those calories would be from fat, whether it be whipping cream, avacados, olive oil, coconut oil, butter, what have you. At 150-170 calories per tablespoon, that's around 7-8 tablespoons, which really isn't that much. The key is giving enough fat for your body to convert to energy and then it starts using the stored fat for energy which makes the stored fat go bye bye.
Another thing...fat makes things taste good, so what you eat tastes amazing.
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