Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[michellej47]

I'm about 99% sure I'm going to cancel my June 20th trip. Not debating masks BUT for me personally having to wear one in the heat is a hard no and I think it's pretty clear they will be required in June IF Disney even opens. We have other vacation stuff we can do for fun here closer to home that I've put off booking cause I've been waiting to see what was happening with Disney and I think I'm ready to pull the plug on Disney and move ahead with other plans that have a much better chance of actually happening and with a lot less stress and hassle.

I am, however, going to hold off on actually cancelling since I was a rebook from March with a free dining plan and I'm still hopeful that Disney live up to their name and let people rebook that.

On a factual note- my mom's friend who had been told by the phone CM that they were opening May 16th lol has just emailed me to tell me her dining reservations have been cancelled but not her resort yet. She was June 1st to 6th.

I booked my backup trip for July 4 days ago, but I just now (like literally a second before coming here) finally hit cancel on my June 19th trip. Even if it does open in early to mid June, we don't want to be the guinea pigs. I want to see how things play out at the beginning. So now we are "hopefully" going on July 18th. I am bummed because our June trip was going to have our 17th anniversary in it, but on the bright side, our July trip has my daughter's birthday.

 

[CastAStone]

Well, it's almost d-day for us - I have until tmw to buy tix for our July 14 trip - ( in order to get our FPS)

leaving from JFK

Don't know if travel restriction will be lifted

Not sure if it will feel like Disney for us , and really don't want to purchase if can't be guaranteed of a ticket refund

This is more stressful than OHANA adr or FoP FP !

Can you convert your reservation into a package to get an extra month of flexibility?

 

[jlwhitney]

Where are you going to spend your money? It’s not like there are going to be a lot of mask free alternatives for a while now.

Actually quite a bit of options. Planning on pigeon forge and enjoying nature and many things there aren’t requiring them. Most zoos aren’t. Plus got beaches and such , so yes there is plenty.

 

[wombat_5606]

This reminds me of the old TV show V, where the visitors fogged the incoming people to be processed as food.

Back in the 70's, if you were on a plane that stopped in Fiji, they came on the plane and fogged everyone.

 

[TropicalDIS]

They passive aggressively call themselves “realists”

Let’s be honest, You have both ends of the spectrum on here. Both sides are very passive aggressive.

Disney will open when and how they think is right. I believe it will be early July, but wouldn’t be surprised to see a soft opening around June 22nd.

 

[SarahC97]

I think it would be easier for Disney to just have us sign on the dotted line we are aware of the risk when entering their parks, rather than temp checks, masks, etc. We know what we are getting into when we enter their gates, and to enforce all this would be way more complicated than just putting up “warning signs”.

But what about the CMs? The whole point of requiring masks and temperature checks is to help mitigate risks to the CMs.

 

[Lewisc]

I believe that's why all ADR's were cancelled across the board at DS. It is easier for restaurants to control capacity when people contact them directly to book.

Some of us are giving Disney's IT department too much credit. I'll speculate Disney cancelled all restaurant ADRs in May without realizing some DS restaurants will be open.

 

[Tandy]

But what about the CMs? The whole point of requiring masks and temperature checks it to help mitigate risk to the CMs.

Have all CM's be dress up characters. Bring out all the cool old ones. Protection and fun

 

[SaintsManiac]

But what about the CMs? The whole point of requiring masks and temperature checks it to help mitigate risk to the CMs.

People seem to forget about the CMs...

 

[zumfelde]

I have experience working with unions in a different sector. Generally speaking without knowing the specifics of this particular agreement apart from what's been reported about it, since the mask requirement was part of the union agreement, usually the union and Disney would have to agree to drop the requirement. In my experience, Disney wouldn't be able to just drop the requirement if guests hate it, unless there's some language in the agreement giving them an out. I've never seen such a thing, but my union negotiating experience is in a different area, so maybe there is in this agreement!

Now Disney can blame the unions for guests having to wear a mask

 

[tinkerhon]

Can you convert your reservation into a package to get an extra month of flexibility?

Tried but was split stay and long stay and all dates weren't available at discount rate, so really leaning towards cancelling now

 

[Mit88]

People seem to forget about the CMs...

Until they want, or need something from them. The cast members are the most under appreciated branch of the Disney company, and have been for a while. Take CMs out of Disney and the park experience is not nearly the same

 

[e_yerger]

So anything interesting coming out from DeSantis' press conference?

 

[Krandor]

Exactly. The public HAS to accept a level of personal responsibility here.

You do but businesses need to do their part as well in helping keep people safe as well.

I had previously been to 2 different bar/restaurants in my area and they were taking plenty of good percautions. Another open last night and I went there. Was not at all pleased with their setup and so I'll likely more often go to the first 2 going forward. What was different? The first two had rearranged their dining room so all tables were 6 feet apart and where not possible (booths) they put placards on the tables not to be used. At the bars they had removed chairs and spread out what whey had to facilitate distancing. Now the one I went to last night had made zero changes to their layout. Every table was still there (not 6 feet apart and no "do not use" placards) and every bar stool was still there. Going to the bar there was nothing stoppig somebody from sitting beside me. For tables it appears their philsophy was that the seater would just seat people 6 feet apart. But what is to say if it is busy they don't sit people at tables not 6 feet apart since none are marked do not use? I'd rather go and spend money at a business where they have modified their setup appropriately vs one where I have to trust if it gets busy things will still be 6 feet away.

 

[gottalovepluto]

Well, it's almost d-day for us - I have until tmw to buy tix for our July 14 trip - ( in order to get our FPS)

leaving from JFK

Don't know if travel restriction will be lifted

Not sure if it will feel like Disney for us , and really don't want to purchase if can't be guaranteed of a ticket refund

This is more stressful than OHANA adr or FoP FP !

Disney is refunding tickets purchased as part of packages but that’s it. They’ve drawn a hard line on no ticket refunds. (You’d have to see what the charge is for cancelling a package, as of now that fee is only waived for people arriving through 6/30.)

 

[yankeesfan123]

Yes, but on a Disney fan forum you come to expect a sense of positivity and optimism. Not to mention to most of the optimistic opening dates that are being thrown out here are predictions. The ones saying they won’t open until late summer, or next year, or they’re opening with one park open are saying it’s a fact that these are things Disney is doing, based on literally no factual information

Many many people were stating the earlier dates as fact too.. especially 6/1.

I have always based my belief they wouldn’t open on 6/1 based on literally factual information. The CP who were supposed to start 6/1 were called off weeks ago and there is no sign of international CMs arriving until at least August. Of course Disney could have other plans in place for employees, but there was never any factual information or plan discussed about that sort of plan. I never saw a sign that parks would open on 6/1 other than Disney was taking reservations for 6/1. But as Jerry said, anyone can take a reservation.

My point is, us “later rather than sooner” people certainly were looking at facts, too. But we are all just predicting in the end.

 

[MickeyWaffles]

Yes, but on a Disney fan forum you come to expect a sense of positivity and optimism. Not to mention to most of the optimistic opening dates that are being thrown out here are predictions.

Not everyone is on the extreme sides. I personally don’t think parks are opening for a while, but there’s nothing wrong with hoping they will open soon. I hope my kids will be able to go to school in the fall, but realistically know they may not.

My issue is, if anyone suggests that they think the parks should not open for a while, they get accused of “living under a rock” and not wanting to leave their homes forever. It goes both ways.

There is a middle ground.

 

[Mit88]

Many many people were stating the earlier dates as fact too.. especially 6/1.

I have always based my belief they wouldn’t open on 6/1 based on literally factual information. The CP who were supposed to start 6/1 were called off weeks ago and there is no sign of international CMs arriving until at least August. Of course Disney could have other plans in place for employees, but there was never any factual information or plan discussed about that sort of plan. I never saw a sign that parks would open on 6/1 other than Disney was taking reservations for 6/1. But as Jerry said, anyone can take a reservation.

My point is, us “later rather than sooner” people certainly were looking at facts, too. But we are all just predicting in the end.

There was more evidence towards June 1st than there ever has been for there only being 1 park open when they reopen, or only MK resorts being open, or a beyond August reopening

 

[Mit88]

Many many people were stating the earlier dates as fact too.. especially 6/1.

I have always based my belief they wouldn’t open on 6/1 based on literally factual information. The CP who were supposed to start 6/1 were called off weeks ago and there is no sign of international CMs arriving until at least August. Of course Disney could have other plans in place for employees, but there was never any factual information or plan discussed about that sort of plan. I never saw a sign that parks would open on 6/1 other than Disney was taking reservations for 6/1. But as Jerry said, anyone can take a reservation.

My point is, us “later rather than sooner” people certainly were looking at facts, too. But we are all just predicting in the end.

CM surveys went out last week asking about cross training in other areas. There have been rumors that they don’t need CP kids to work in that area. I believe someone with Disney said as much a few weeks ago

 

[Primeval Princess]

Where are you going to spend your money? It’s not like there are going to be a lot of mask free alternatives for a while now.

Beaches, national parks, state parks, camping, attractions in places that don't have mask requirements. There are quite a few options, actually.

Saving your money until the travel you want to do is both safe and worthwhile is also an option that many are considering.