Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[marinejjh]

So what is the point in waiting until April 30th if they already know what they are going to do? Why not make the announcement now?

That has been a frustrating choice that a lot of places, including Disney, are making. I understand waiting to make an announcement if they really don't know what they are going to do. However, it seems almost cruel to hold off on an announcement when they already know what they are going to do.

I agree, but AAU already knows, as well as many other organizations. My opinion is they are trying to see if another location can host tournaments, but with most of the events the schools wont allow the events to be held. I can't see Disney or any of the host organizations taking that liability at this point. I love sports, but know body want the liability. Many big universities are starting to question if fall sports will even happen.

 

[anthony2k7]

Reopeing just because the government says you can't isn't always wise. My state is opening restaurants monday. A LOT around me have said they are not opening then. Many haven't said. I know of only one near me I've checked that has said they are going to offer dine-in service come monday. There there is the question of how many will go. I saw an article that reported numbers from opentable where even before restaurants had to close dine-in most were down in attendance by 80-90%.

Government saying "you can open if you want" is the start not the end.

Exactly.

Once places are allowed to open they need to figure out if they have enough employees healthy to open with (some companies were running around 30% sick at one point). They then need to see if they can get the stock they require and potentially wait for the deliveries. Then they need to figure out how social distancing affects them. Finally they need to figure out if after all the above it is financially viable to open right now.

 

[Krandor]

Exactly.

Once places are allowed to open they need to figure out if they have enough employees healthy to open with (some companies were running around 30% sick at one point). They then need to see if they can get the stock they require and potentially wait for the deliveries. Then they need to figure out how social distancing affects them. Finally they need to figure out if after all the above it is financially viable to open right now.

and simply if they feel it is safe for them and their customers to re-open dine-in. That is what many around here have said - they think it is too soon so are going to wait at least a few more weeks before they consider re-opening dine-in. Just because you can doesn't mean you have to.

 

[xuxa777]

One big issues upcoming will be staffing, more people are making more being furloughed and collecting unemployment with the federal Cares act $600/week kicker than what there job pays. On average if your make less than $50K $26/hour a year you make more in unemployment doing nothing than you do by working. A lot of Disney CMs probably make less than that. A lot of employees are figuring that out and are saying why go back to work. Even better on furlough because you don't have to pay you medical insurance so your breakeven is even higher. That is if you can get into the unemployment system.

 

[Krandor]

But there is no way to know when that will be. We don't know if there will be another spike, or if there won't be. And yet there are plenty who are willing to both say that there definitively be another spike, and that opening anytime sooner than they personally deem acceptable is irresponsible.

Which is why the next 2-3 weeks as some states start to re-open are going to tell us A LOT. We just don't know yet what the results of limited reopening of businesses with social distancing is going to yet. I have guesses but there are at best educated guesses. We're just going to have to keep an eye on things and see. Mid/late May we will have a much better view on things.

 

[Pickle Rick]

One big issues upcoming will be staffing, more people are making more being furloughed and collecting unemployment with the federal Cares act $600/week kicker than what there job pays. On average if your make less than $50K $26/hour a year you make more in unemployment doing nothing than you do by working. A lot of Disney CMs probably make less than that. A lot of employees are figuring that out and are saying why go back to work. Even better on furlough because you don't have to pay you medical insurance so your breakeven is even higher. That is if you can get into the unemployment system.

I disagree with this. For one, I believe that extra $600 lasts only until July. Two, many people are worried about their benefits, seniority, etc, and despite what some people think, I believe most people do like working and feeling productive and not living off "the government". Also, Unemployment doesn't last forever, and I guarantee most, if not damn near all workers, especially Disney CM's (who get great perks) will happily go back to work the moment Disney calls them, even if they were already receiving unemployment checks.

 

[Pickle Rick]

and simply if they feel it is safe for them and their customers to re-open dine-in. That is what many around here have said - they think it is too soon so are going to wait at least a few more weeks before they consider re-opening dine-in. Just because you can doesn't mean you have to.

Doesn't mean there wouldn't be massive pressure "behind the scenes" to open things up faster, especially when it comes to big companies like Disney who are a huge part of Central Florida's economy. I'm not saying they will cave into the pressure if they don't feel it's safe to open, at least I hope not.

 

[TDSAXX]

One big issues upcoming will be staffing, more people are making more being furloughed and collecting unemployment with the federal Cares act $600/week kicker than what there job pays. On average if your make less than $50K $26/hour a year you make more in unemployment doing nothing than you do by working. A lot of Disney CMs probably make less than that. A lot of employees are figuring that out and are saying why go back to work. Even better on furlough because you don't have to pay you medical insurance so your breakeven is even higher. That is if you can get into the unemployment system.

You can’t choose to remain unemployed. If the company calls you back to work and you refuse you won’t be able to collect benefits.

 

[Krandor]

Doesn't mean there wouldn't be massive pressure "behind the scenes" to open things up faster, especially when it comes to big companies like Disney who are a huge part of Central Florida's economy. I'm not saying they will cave into the pressure if they don't feel it's safe to open, at least I hope not.

One different there is Disney and Universal are so big they are going to be working with the government on things. Even if the governer thinks they should open sooner, if Disney and universal are not on board with it, he isn't going to announce it. There will be discussions and stuff taking place back behind closed door and all parties will be fine with the date before it is announced... at least that is how it should work.

 

[Pickle Rick]

One different there is Disney and Universal are so big they are going to be working with the government on things. Even if the governer thinks they should open sooner, if Disney and universal are not on board with it, he isn't going to announce it. There will be discussions and stuff taking place back behind closed door and all parties will be fine with the date before it is announced... at least that is how it should work.

I definitely do believe both Disney and Universal will open in some form around the same time, maybe even on the same day.

 

[Krandor]

I definitely do believe both Disney and Universal will open in some form around the same time, maybe even on the same day.

I would be shocked if it isn't the exact same day. It make sense for everybody to appear to be on the same page. Good for the PR for the companies and in giving confidence to the public. Then it isn't one company doing this and another doing that but both of the big players on the same page doing the same thing. And I also expect whatever new procedures and policies are put into place will be almost identical between the two as well. No good reason not to.

 

[aibo]

S&P Lowers Disney’s Credit Rating On COVID-19 Economic Uncertainty, Closed Parks

 

[Shellyred8]

Looking for a silver lining in all this. In the short term I have a feeling that the parks, and especially the bathrooms, will be the cleanest they have ever been.

This is exactly the reason that I want to be there when it first opens up. WDW will be cleaner than it has ever been!

 

[stephk1981]

One big issues upcoming will be staffing, more people are making more being furloughed and collecting unemployment with the federal Cares act $600/week kicker than what there job pays. On average if your make less than $50K $26/hour a year you make more in unemployment doing nothing than you do by working. A lot of Disney CMs probably make less than that. A lot of employees are figuring that out and are saying why go back to work. Even better on furlough because you don't have to pay you medical insurance so your breakeven is even higher. That is if you can get into the unemployment system.

Unfortunately a large percentage of people haven't gotten anything yet. 1 in 4 weren't eligible for unemployment benefits in Florida, but the other 3/4 still have a large percentage that haven't seen a dime of the federal $600 unemployment. I'm sure they'd rather go to work with a reliable check coming in.

 

[xuxa777]

You can’t choose to remain unemployed. If the company calls you back to work and you refuse you won’t be able to collect benefits.

That is the way it is supposed to work correct.

 

[xuxa777]

Unfortunately a large percentage of people haven't gotten anything yet. 1 in 4 weren't eligible for unemployment benefits in Florida, but the other 3/4 still have a large percentage that haven't seen a dime of the federal $600 unemployment. I'm sure they'd rather go to work with a reliable check coming in.

Exactly why I said the last line "That is if you can get into the unemployment system"

 

[rteetz]

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[stephk1981]

Exactly why I said the last line "That is if you can get into the unemployment system"

Isn't them having a valid claim they have submitted ' being in the system'? Many do, but still haven't received checks
I am speaking of people that have been able to get through and file, not the ones that haven't due to overloaded system

 

[xuxa777]

Isn't them having a valid claim they have submitted ' being in the system'? Many do, but still haven't received checks

We are saying the same thing. I agree with you.

 

[stephk1981]

We are saying the same thing. I agree with you.

Ah, okay, sorry. I hope they rectify this so people will get their unemployment benefits soon