Cruise and Theme Park Operational Updates due to Coronavirus

[JaxDad]

I haven't seen this term since some old RCL cruise review about 10 years ago.

I hope they aren't talking about getting it from "flatulence", because if I get this thing everyone around me is a goner.

Breaking news: CDC warns against eating beans around the campfire...

 

[wallawallakids]

Breaking news: CDC warns against eating beans around the campfire...
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Thank you for the Blazing Saddles photo. My dad would be so proud of your post. . ( and I needed the laugh).

 

[SierraT]

If one of the reopening guidelines is to not use 3D glasses, then does that mean anything involving 3D or 4D wont be operating? Im thinking of Universal in particular, Spiderman is one of my favorite rides ever. I was taking my son for the first time & very eager to ride that with him. It seems like quite a few universal rides use 3D glasses, how would that work?

I read somewhere yesterday Universal currently has a patent for disinfecting glasses. I think I found it but not sure I can link. Let’s see if this works, side note I do not know this source or if it’s accurate but it looks interesting.

kennythepirate.com/2020/04/22/universal-studios-patents-new-sanitizing-method-for-3d-glasses/

 

[Sarahslay]

Yep ive seen articles about air conditioning being a spreader - nightmare scenario for FL.

From one restaurant in China where the individuals were all seated near each other, and after researching it it's almost like "well we don't know how they got it, everyone says they weren't sick before so it must be the a/c". As far as toilets, RNA has been found in patients fecal matter well after they have been "recovered", but research keeps showing it is unlikely to be a cause of spread. Heck, I had the virus and my husband never got sick (granted, he could have been lucky and been asymptomatic) and he had to use the same bathroom as me. I did wash my hands like a crazy person, but as long as people aren't going all over the seat you should be fine. WDW toilets have automatic flushers, much to the dismay of my youngest DD, so touching a flusher isn't a problem, more so a problem with touching the door to get out. I can see them simply cleaning a lot more frequently, which is needed anyway IMO. As far as the a/c spreading the virus, we would have A LOT more people sick if that was the case.....a lot. Of course there is nothing anyone can do about that since most buildings in the US have circulated air, aside from putting in higher grade air filters there isn't much you can do about that.

 

[anthony2k7]

not my opinion at all!! I think there will be restrictions and some "non normal" things. My opinion is that the country (Disney included) must open sooner than later. Not 2021 not Fall 2020...soon! WE have to accept the new normal and restrictions and then decide if we want to go out. I will go out. I am fine with restrictions and other social distancing measures...which will eventually be lifted. I dont think anyone has simply said rip off the band aid and go immediately back to February 1 normal??

I didnt say it was your opinion. PP that I replied to was replying to xuxa777. So unless you are the same person then I wasnt talking about you.

 

[LSUmiss]

I agree with pretty much all of this, and I also find it good news that studies are showing low transmission in outdoor areas. I have also been reading studies on tests being done regarding heat and humidity and how the virus can not survive very long in a hot and humid environment, which is obviously good news for WDW and Universal Florida. I still say if it was going to spread like wild fire from the parks it would have done it before they shut down, it would have been horrible. I am honestly more afraid to go to a grocery store than I am to go to WDW at this point (people need to stop licking their fingers to open the produce bags and then touching all the things). I live in GA and will see first hand how bad it can get in the next couple of weeks, hoping we don't end up as bad off as I fear, thankfully I can still stay home, and hopefully FL fairs better since they have been trending better than GA has overall with more of a flattened curve.

That’s my opinion that Wdw would have already been tied to a huge outbreak.

 

[mshanson3121]

The same way that your opinions can be shared here, anyone else can do that. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean they can't share them.
I can say that the parks are reopening this weekend and i would be allowed, by Dis guidelines, to do so
If you don't agree you are in your right to move on and ignore, or just post the same argument over and over again

The difference is the person(s) he's referring to, has more or less attacked him for his views.

 

[yulilin3]

The difference is the person(s) he's referring to, has more or less attacked him for his views.

And that's when each of us can use that report button. The mod wil see if the post was against Dis rules and proceed accordingly
Btw and without knowing the actual posts, not agreeing with you doesn't mean attacked

 

[anthony2k7]

The same way that your opinions can be shared here, anyone else can do that. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean they can't share them.
I can say that the parks are reopening this weekend and i would be allowed, by Dis guidelines, to do so
If you don't agree you are in your right to move on and ignore, or just post the same argument over and over again

Whatever. I was just agreeing with the poster I replied to and expanding on the suggestions that the person in question had suggested previously.

 

[J-BOY]

And that's when each of us can use that report button. The mod wil see if the post was against Dis rules and proceed accordingly
Btw and without knowing the actual posts, not agreeing with you doesn't mean attacked

The issue here is that everyone has already made their opinions well-known, over 100 pages ago. Opinions are not changing. The thread is constantly updated, multiple times per day, by the same users posting data that affirms their opinion and rejects others. This is being done by both sides.

There is no worthwhile discussion here. Maybe 20 pages worth of actual, worthy discussion. The rest is people airing their frustrations, attempting to combat opinions outside of their own, and the longer it goes on, calling each other out repeatedly. It's a nearly 300-page thread for a topic in which Disney has been basically mum.

 

[yulilin3]

The issue here is that everyone has already made their opinions well-known, over 100 pages ago. Opinions are not changing. The thread is constantly updated, multiple times per day, by the same users posting data that affirms their opinion and rejects others. This is being done by both sides.

There is no worthwhile discussion here. Maybe 20 pages worth of actual, worthy discussion. The rest is people airing their frustrations, attempting to combat opinions outside of their own, and the longer it goes on, calling each other out repeatedly. It's a nearly 300-page thread for a topic in which Disney has been basically mum.

100% agree, this would be the time to ignore repeat offenders (user the ignore button when you hit their name) that way you as the reader don't have to read through the back and forth.

 

[Moliphino]

I haven't seen this term since some old RCL cruise review about 10 years ago.

I hope they aren't talking about getting it from "flatulence", because if I get this thing everyone around me is a goner.

Lids on all toilet seats! I'd like to see that everywhere anyway. I never flush without the lid down if there is one.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

I agree, AAU is supposed to make an announcement April 30th. A close source of mine that is a VP for track and field said It isnt gonna happen.

So what is the point in waiting until April 30th if they already know what they are going to do? Why not make the announcement now?

That has been a frustrating choice that a lot of places, including Disney, are making. I understand waiting to make an announcement if they really don't know what they are going to do. However, it seems almost cruel to hold off on an announcement when they already know what they are going to do.

 

[Lewisc]

So what is the point in waiting until April 30th if they already know what they are going to do? Why not make the announcement now?

That has been a frustrating choice that a lot of places, including Disney, are making. I understand waiting to make an announcement if they really don't know what they are going to do. However, it seems almost cruel to hold off on an announcement when they already know what they are going to do.

A business (Disney for example) may already know they won't open as per their last announced date but wait to make an announcement (hoping) until the announcement will also offer the projected opening date. That will allow the business to (attempt) to rollover reservations as opposed to refunding deposits.

It is starting to look like FL might start to open up before the models suggest they will. That suggests an projected date based on the models might be weeks after an actual date.

edited to add. In other words should Disney announce a projected opening date based on a review of POTUS guidelines and the models or a consideration of what Disney thinks FL will allow.

People who frequent Disney fan sites already know the June 1 opening date is iffy. We already know Disney is likely to have limited experiences the first few weeks (maybe months or more) after opening. I feel sorry for the average guest who may not be aware of either.

 

[Sarahslay]

So what is the point in waiting until April 30th if they already know what they are going to do? Why not make the announcement now?

That has been a frustrating choice that a lot of places, including Disney, are making. I understand waiting to make an announcement if they really don't know what they are going to do. However, it seems almost cruel to hold off on an announcement when they already know what they are going to do.

This is JMO so take it with a heavy pinch of salt, but they may be waiting in case they have to change something due to any changes in the current climate. Things remain on a certain projection? Keep the plan you have and announce it. Things start to go south and aren't looking too good? Change the plan asap accordingly. I'd rather they wait until they are certain rather than announce something too early and possibly keep having to change positions, that would get really old really fast.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

A business (Disney for example) may already know they won't open as per their last announced date but wait to make an announcement (hoping) until the announcement will also offer the projected opening date. That will allow the business to (attempt) to rollover reservations as opposed to refunding deposits.

It is starting to look like FL might start to open up before the models suggest they will. That suggests an projected date based on the models might be weeks after an actual date.

That may be it. Thanks for the info.

I can see how that would good for the business, but it is selfish and does not consider the needs of the consumer. They are essentially tying up the consumers' money and preventing the consumer from making other plans (i.e., if Disney knows at this point that they will not open by mid-June and they aren't telling us, then they are tying up our deposit, possibly preventing us from rescheduling to July or August (there are some annoying fastpass issues that come up with this), and worst of all, keeping us false-hoping for something that they know is not going to happen.

Maybe Disney isn't doing this. There is a good chance that they do believe there is strong potential for them to open in June. But any company that is intentionally withholding operating information from us in an effort to take advantage of us- that just makes me angry.

 

[Pickle Rick]

No not what I am saying. 3 or 4 have made it a point to say the opposite of what everyone else says. Its over I have hit ignore. I want what you want. For WDW to open ASAP in whatever format it deems safe.

I want Disney to open up when they feel the time is right, and not do it because of pressure from anyone, including politicians (who are the ones with the real agenda, IMO). Just my two cents.

 

[Jrb1979]

That may be it. Thanks for the info.

I can see how that would good for the business, but it is selfish and does not consider the needs of the consumer. They are essentially tying up the consumers' money and preventing the consumer from making other plans (i.e., if Disney knows at this point that they will not open by mid-June and they aren't telling us, then they are tying up our deposit, possibly preventing us from rescheduling to July or August (there are some annoying fastpass issues that come up with this), and worst of all, keeping us false-hoping for something that they know is not going to happen.

Maybe Disney isn't doing this. There is a good chance that they do believe there is strong potential for them to open in June. But any company that is intentionally withholding operating information from us in an effort to take advantage of us- that just makes me angry.

It is why it was a bad idea to announce any rebooking. Its one thing to put it on your site like Universal. To actually go out and announce it along with free dining when they don't know for sure when they open. Now all these people have their hopes up and there is a good chance that what they booked isn't going to happen.

 

[tlmadden73]

That’s my opinion that Wdw would have already been tied to a huge outbreak.

Right .. considering that this virus was floating around for months before we started truly locking down and that Disney is such an international destination .. there wasn't a huge outbreak in or around WDW in its guests or employees (I mean . .if there was .. we would have heard it- the news media would have eaten that up). That is a good sign for the future.

We just have to realize that SOME places are safer to go than others. ..WDW is a mix of safe places (walking down Main Street) and questionable places (on the monorail at park open or close). So it will be interesting to see how cautious people will be and what actions Disney will take.

 

[anthony2k7]

agreed but we all know politics and economy will play a part then we have to decide if we want to go

You're forgetting that it needs to be safe for CMs as well. They dont get to decide if they go or not if they want to keep their jobs.