Boycott EMM or...

[Regan117]

Would your mornings be less enjoyable if they opened up the park at 7:45 as part of your admission price and allowed you to buy breakfast for your 3 toddlers for around $10 per child? I don't think the OP was discounting the benefits to arriving early. I got the sense that the focus of the post was that for the price we already pay for admission, is opening up one "land" at the MK on a rotational basis twice a week unworkable? Or opening a few rides at DHS at 7:45 twice a week along with some QS food option? I assume that the crowds would be larger than they are now with the pricey hard ticket. But crowds at 7:45-8:30 will always be low enough to satisfy all but the "I want the park to myself" crowd. I don't know if a boycott is feasible, but if people didn't open their wallets so willingly, Disney would have to come up with a different plan.

We will never pay for EMM. Not because we are joining a boycott, but because the limited number of attractions at that unholy hour just doesn't fit with our vacation strategy. But if my not going will be looked upon by some as making me part of a "movement", I'm happy to be included.

Yes it would be less enjoyable. I have no interest in running into the park at rope drop and standing in lines. Our family of 5 all have APs and we go to WDW 4-5 times per year. We've never done RD once because we find it obnoxious and stressful. Same goes for EMH - we haven't ever had an interest in doing it. And if we WERE the type to do RD we still wouldn't spend only $10 on breakfast. We order room service most days, which is close to the cost of this anyway. It's worth it for us and we like the exclusivity and small numbers. We are doing the MK once twice and the HS one twice on our upcoming trip...and if they add Epcot we will do that too.

 

[anneboleyn]

don't we already pay enough to stay there?
EMM should be available to all resort guests.. for free.

People are paying for the small crowds, and there is nothing wrong with that at all.

I am hoping they add more!

 

[Delirium]

I'm cynical, but I see a scenario where Disney gradually sells more of these tickets over time for each day, resulting in the event being less and less exclusive. This month you get 14 Mine Rides in.....next month you can only get in 12, etc.

 

[KrazeeK120]

don't we already pay enough to stay there?
EMM should be available to all resort guests.. for free.

Could you imagine the lines if they opened 3 rides in the entire park for resort guests? EMM works because of the exclusivity of it. It would never work as a "free perk" for resort guests. That's what EMH is for.

 

[Praying Colonel]

What's the difference between a boycott and not buying a ticket? Is there an awareness ribbon to wear or something? If so, I nominate this:

 

[Missyrose]

as well as the evening extra hours opportunities (if they bring that back as well ) because if we don't , if Disney can get people to pay for extra time in the parks in any kind of significant numbers you will see them phase out EMH for resort guests . They already cut the evening EMH from 3 hours to 2 a couple of years ago . This is them testing the waters so it is important that this test FAILS so we can keep EMH for WDW resort guests . I know nothing is guarenteed and nothing is forever but if this program is a success I fear EMH will in a year or so be nothing but a memory .

Except there are people who find value in these events for one reason or another. So how about no one shaming anyone else for choosing how THEY want to spend THEIR money? I greatly dislike "free" dining, but others find value in it. But you don't see me trying to picket Disney into dumping that particular discount.

 

[cornflkgrl]

I greatly dislike "free" dining, but others find value in it. But you don't see me trying to picket Disney into dumping that particular discount.

You mean upsell....that particular upsell.
Free dining isn't a discount.

 

[cornflkgrl]

Btw, Disney is genius. Create a nightmare problem for the customer with the product (out of control lines/magicbands). Blame it on the customer (we just have huge crowds...we are so popular...sorry you waited in line 4 hours to ride that...). Solve it by having the customer pay you even more for the same product (if you give us even more money, we will make sure YOU get on the ride over and over).

 

[mom2rtk]

Btw, Disney is genius. Create a nightmare problem for the customer with the product (out of control lines/magicbands). Blame it on the customer (we just have huge crowds...we are so popular...sorry you waited in line 4 hours to ride that...). Solve it by having the customer pay you even more for the same product (if you give us even more money, we will make sure YOU get on the ride over and over).

This.

Absolutely this.

 

[Praying Colonel]

Btw, Disney is genius. Create a nightmare problem for the customer with the product (out of control lines/magicbands). Blame it on the customer (we just have huge crowds...we are so popular...sorry you waited in line 4 hours to ride that...). Solve it by having the customer pay you even more for the same product (if you give us even more money, we will make sure YOU get on the ride over and over).

So true--and applying that concept to get people to pay more to enter a half-shuttered DHS is even more inspired.

 

[NeuroCindy]

The reason for these paid early morning events has nothing to do with the existence of EMH and everything to do with the high demand for PPO ADRs for early access to popular rides.

DING DING DING! I can't believe this comment was overlooked!

Except there are people who find value in these events for one reason or another. So how about no one shaming anyone else for choosing how THEY want to spend THEIR money? I greatly dislike "free" dining, but others find value in it. But you don't see me trying to picket Disney into dumping that particular discount.

Preach! There's a lot of things people buy/pay for at disney that I find to be a huge waste of money. So I don't buy them, but I don't try to get others to "boycott" them.

 

[jkh36619]

If they offer this over Christmas week I drop the money in a heartbeat

 

[eastendlights]

Btw, Disney is genius. Create a nightmare problem for the customer with the product (out of control lines/magicbands). Blame it on the customer (we just have huge crowds...we are so popular...sorry you waited in line 4 hours to ride that...). Solve it by having the customer pay you even more for the same product (if you give us even more money, we will make sure YOU get on the ride over and over).

PT Barnum would be proud.

 

[mom2rtk]

If they offer this over Christmas week I drop the money in a heartbeat

The park opens too early over that week for them to offer EMM then.

Your best bet that week is to hire a VIP tour guide.

 

[eastendlights]

So true--and applying that concept to get people to pay more to enter a half-shuttered DHS is even more inspired.

And this would send old PT into paroxysms of joy.

 

[Hikergirl]

I don't think a boycott of a specific even will be successful. The people willing to boycott it are the ones who wouldn't consider buying a ticket for it in the first place. If you really want to send a message, boycott WDW all together and make sure your reasons are known to Disney.

I'm on the opposite end of boycotting, I'm willing to sign a petition for them to bring back the night event and add the morning one to all parks.

 

[cigar95]

I think it's jumping the shark a bit to think EMH is being phased out. Disney is too savvy not to know that there are too many guests who stay on property for the specific reason of getting the benefit of EMH.

Yup. Remember, they tried getting rid of EMH (before it was called that) about 15 years ago, as an experiment. The people responded, big time. It came back bigger than ever. (If you remember, it was only in the morning at that point. After it returned, we now had evening EMH.)

 

[Paula Sedley-Burke]

I just wouldn't hold your breath. EMH is meant to fill their more than 25K rooms. People pay those high prices for things like EMH. And honestly EMH is busy enough already. They can't afford to open it to more people or it will cease to be any sort of a benefit.

What! 25,000 rooms? Faint. I always wondered how many they had. Thank you. That's a lot of shampoo...

 

[cdnjason]

(From the rookie bench)
Here's the thing I simply don't get- I read all of these threads that encapsulate " Should I spend $1600 a week instead of $1400 a week to stay at X instead of Y because my family has outgrown ____/I am going to shove a $60 character breakfast down my 5 person family's throat so we can ride Frozen/ 6 people for a dinner (x$60) so we get a seat at JungleBookFantasmicWishes and don't burn a fastpass/going to WDW isn't quite special enough for my 8 year old daughter- how can I hire Mickey to come wake her up in the morning and wish her a happy birthday/I'm going to spend $200 for a princess outfit and hair and shoes but don't tell my husband but we'll bring a change of clothes for 4 hours later/$69 a head for a StarWarsWishesOsbourneLights dessert party for a 13 minute event that will ruin the rest of grandma's life is she doesn't see it/ the family needs matching shirts for each of the 6 days we are there so I am buying 36 $30 shirts from Etsy/the stuff I buy the kids in the park isn't special enough, I need Tinkerbell gifts for them for each morning...

but then in another thread, many of these same posters are talking about how Disney has gotten too expensive and how they're eating granola bars in the room.
I don't get it.

LOL...nice summary!

I don't relate with those justifying $276 (for a family of four) being good value for extra access to a few rides for an hour and breakfast. I guess I can see it if you're limited in how long you have for vacation. Thankfully, I have flexibility in my schedule, where I can get an extra night stay and a whole additional day at the parks for less than that.

 

[jkh36619]

The park opens too early over that week for them to offer EMM then.

Your best bet that week is to hire a VIP tour guide.

Yeah, unfortunately not going to happen since MK historically opens at 7am every morning.

And a VIP tour guide its most definitely out of my price range. I hear is from $100/hr to $300/hr