Be Our Guest Breakfast Price Increase

[HopperFan]

Called last night and it's fixed prices. But an adult can order a kids meal. It's still a $14 bowl do cereal though... Comes with "complimentary" terrible looking pastries that looked like they were shipped from walmart's bakery.

Edit: I called back and that is wrong. You can order whatever you want, not obligated to order a full meal.

There is a difference in fixed prices and prix fixe.

The "fixed prices" they have and have always had, only means that every meal is the same price. One price adults and one price kids. But no requirement.

The restaurant was announced to be "Prix Fixe" which means one price per person and everyone HAS to pay. They did not follow up with that, so folks shared, spent little and now they have to raise prices ... again.

Not sure what you mean? As of now when I called Disney, you don't have to pay that price for breakfast or lunch. They said it's a la carte and if I wanted, I could get coffee and a cupcake (and that's it.)

When the BOG breakfast was announced they said it would be Prix Fixe. What that means is basically like a Character Meal or HDDR where EVERYONE MUST pay. Their menu was laid out like a Prix Fixe, where you got a plate full of pastries, a choice of entrees, a choice of drinks ... and .... the same per person price.

However, when BOG opened, they did not implement this even though they called it this. They allowed you to order any number of meals and adults to order kids meals. Given it was a hard to get reservation and they offered pre-park ADRs folks figured out real quick they could book, spend a minimal amount of money - worst yet they figured those pastries could feed members who had ordered nothing, paid nothing. Now this huge restaurant was fully booked, filled with people with a good percentage who did not order or pay for anything. So essentially this became a restaurant with "fixed prices" which only meant each meal cost the same.

No surprise when prices jumped last time, but that didn't stop folks from filling the place without spending much money. No resolution to the real problem. So here we are again with another price increase plus what looks like a charge for drinks so a huge price increase. But then the dumb move, let's put a $5 cupcake on the menu. The same cupcake used to be $2.99 on the lunch menu .... guess costs went up 67% ... for a basic cupcake that you can get at the grocery. So now they will lose more money. I will gladly book a pre-park opening table, order 1 cupcake for $5 to pick at while we go over our day game plan, then get outside to ride 7DMT.

No sure what you don't understand of what I said? You said it was fixed prices and seemed confused but responded to two of us that were explaining how it is. NOTHING has changed at the restaurant since it opened except for price increases, what looks like now a charge for drinks (and who can blame them with all this sharing) and addition of the "must do" cupcake. I was trying to explain the difference between price fixed which it always has been and never changed and prix fixe which it was announced to be and if it were we wouldn't be here having all these BOG breakfast questions. It sounded like from you post you thought it was Prix Fixe, and Disney has created much of this confusion. Funny how no one talks about any other breakfasts to this length .... maybe cause they are not the mess this place is.

Okay, since we're now pretty sure you don't have to order the entree and can get by with just a cup of coffee, my guess is they will stop having pre-opening ADRs and it will become just like the other QS restaurants in MK and open AT park opening. The question then becomes whether there is still a need for an ADR or people just walk up, again, like any other QS eaterie.

If they are smart ............ why in the world would you open that big place as a pre-park jump-on-rope-drop-people option and only take in a few dollars per person. Talk about undercutting some of the other places. But hey my family will spend $5 for one cupcake to share before we are the first ones on the mine train. I mean, one bite is enough for me.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

Yeah. They have now reduced the penalty. Instead of a $10pp charge for not showing at the ADR, 5 people show, order 1 cupcake, then motor to the nearest rope.

This is madness.

 

[disneyAndi14]

All I can say is wow!

 

[DisBuckMan]

Yeah. They have now reduced the penalty. Instead of a $10pp charge for not showing at the ADR, 5 people show, order 1 cupcake, then motor to the nearest rope.

This is madness.

Or, one cup of coffee or one soft drink. Maybe this is just a start at doing away with the pre-park opening there? They're cannabalizing their own business with this move.

 

[HopperFan]

Yeah. They have now reduced the penalty. Instead of a $10pp charge for not showing at the ADR, 5 people show, order 1 cupcake, then motor to the nearest rope.

This is madness.

It just bewilders me how after 3 years they still can't figure out how to fill the restaurant with maximized profits.

But hey maybe it's the same guys who made some of Skippers decisions.

 

[DisBuckMan]

I just bewilders me how after 3 years they still can't figure out how to fill the restaurant with maximized profits.

Not only have they not figured out how to maximize profits, they've actually figured out how to lose money...especially in that pre-park opening hour if they keep it. They will staff the restaurant for maximum reservations, only to have many order drinks and/or cupcakes.

Crazy.

 

[HopperFan]

Not only have they not figured out how to maximize profits, they've actually figured out how to lose money...especially in that pre-park opening hour if they keep it. They will staff the restaurant for maximum reservations, only to have many order drinks and/or cupcakes.

Crazy.

EVERY SINGLE decision they have made from announcing Prix Fixe but not implementing it, serving pastries to tables instead of a smaller portion to each entree ordered, raising price to further encourage sharing and now this drastic price increase and adding the answer to all - the single cupcake! $5 for a family to get an extra FP+ is priceless.

It's not rocket science .. makes you wonder .....

 

[DisBuckMan]

Can you imagine the zoo that place will be if they do free dining this fall, along with the folks looking to cheap out on a pre-park opening?

 

[5kidsmommy]

Can you imagine the zoo that place will be if they do free dining this fall, along with the folks looking to cheap out on a pre-park opening?

It was a zoo in November. We had free dining and used it to get a meal, yep just one for two of us. Not against the rules so I did it. We were the second people in line. Honestly it was one and done for me, glad we only used one meal.

 

[Shadowcat70]

Well, we all said that Skippers Canteen was overpriced...so, instead of lowering those prices, look to all MK prices to have large price increases to adjust...BOG is just the 1st...

I wonder if they finally realized the price of the QSDP had out-pacing the price of the OOP cost.

 

[AnnaKat]

I wouldn't say it's a good deal. It's still a QS breakfast for a QS credit. It's not like they are suddenly offering anything better for the price hike. more like "better do it while on DDP because no one is paying OOP for that crap". It's like nearly 1.5 times the cost of lunch at the same venue!

It's TWICE the price for the kids'!! The mahi mahi kid's meal w/veggies & plum sauce is only $7.49, & included a drink when I ordered it on our Nov./Dec. trip. Good size portion. That w/a cupcake was more than enough for me. As a great tasting healthy meal for an adult, we considered it a fab value We scored a number of BOG lunches, & were not disappointed on our MK days
We had FP for 7DMR, so NO need for pre-park opening breakfast ADRs. Instead of $14 plus drink for child scrambled eggs @ BOG, I enjoyed 5.99 scrambled eggs from our DVC home resort's Mara. Were allowed to substitute chakalaka for the sausage/bacon, & an OJ & grapes were included. A side of chakalaka is $3, & the OJ individually is $3, so the value couldn't be better, & no ADR required!

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

I was so excited to get my 8:05 breakfast reservation for June last week... now not so much. It went from $19 for everything to $24 for entrée plus extra for a beverage? You're paying just to be there. Geez.... Now I have to decide if it's worth getting into MK early for that.

Week of February 14th it was $21.95. They went from 19.95 last Sept to $21.95 in February, and now $24 in March???

We have reservations in April and July. May be canceling those babies-or splitting the cupcake.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

Gosh, I can't help but feel like this is a direct reaction to the MAJOR dissatisfaction that folks expressed in not being able to get reservations at this restaurant. People were behaving online and everywhere else like it was going to be the end-all be-all of their vacation if they didn't eat breakfast there...so many letters written to Guest Service, etc. from irate Guests - they HAVE to do something about the craziness.

I have not had a problem getting breakfast reservations here. There always seemed to be plenty of availability- even close to 8 am and well past the 180 mark.

In fact, I just checked and there is an 8:15 for 4 this Friday.

 

[chloelovesdisney]

Geez, not sure if we will be keeping our 8am breakfast at BOG in August or lunch there either. I already thought it was a little pricey before and that was when it included coffee. A little nutty for counter service.

 

[beesly]

In fact, I just checked and there is an 8:15 for 4 this Friday.

MK has an AM EMH this Friday, so the 8:15 ADR doesn't have the pre-park opening benefit.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

MK has an AM EMH this Friday, so the 8:15 ADR doesn't have the pre-park opening benefit.

But surely they can't expect people to only eat there for pre-park opening breakfasts. What are the servers supposed to do from 9 to 11?

I guess my point is that BOG breakfast has never been a hard ADR to get compared to Ohana, Dining with an Imagineer, Beaches and Cream, and BOG dinner. I have easily secured 5 pre-park breakfasts at BOG, and none of them did I book at 180 days.

July BOG breakfasts are still wide open, so it is not as if you have to be online at 6 am 180+ days in advance to get them. I wonder if availability will rise even higher now with this price change.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

What are the servers supposed to do from 9 to 11?

There are no servers. It's Quick Service. There are attendants, non-tipped. If it's slow, Disney will simply schedule fewer of them or split their shifts.

Ohana, Dining with an Imagineer, Beaches and Cream, and BOG dinner.

These are all TS, with tipped waitstaff.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

There are no servers. It's Quick Service. There are attendants, non-tipped. If it's slow, Disney will simply schedule fewer of them or split their shifts.


These are all TS, with tipped waitstaff.

I have been there. Three times for breakfast. They serve me breakfast. I call them servers.


I am not comparing the money they make. I am talking about having a restaurant open with no guests. Not good for table service or quick service. It is really all beside the point.


The post I responded to said that guests were complaining they could not get ADRs for breakfast. My simple point was breakfast ADRs at BOG are not hard to come by.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I am not comparing the money they make. I am talking about having a restaurant open with no guests. Not good for table service or quick service. It is really all beside the point.

Nonetheless, you schedule fewer of them, for shorter shifts. That's what happens when a place is quieter. It's what's happening at Skipper Canteen.

 

[AtlantaDisneyDreamer]

Nonetheless, you schedule fewer of them, for shorter shifts. That's what happens when a place is quieter. It's what's happening at Skipper Canteen.

Is there a concern among BOG CMs that this might happen at BOG with the new price increase?