Be Our Guest Breakfast Price Increase

[Paigevon]

Justify your actions any way you need to, this loop hole will be closed. I am 100% confident about it.

I'm not doing anything wrong that needs justification. I'm simply explaining why they are creating their own problem.

 

[GPC0321]

Has anyone at the restaurant actually confirmed that the drinks are no longer included...? (especially on the DP)

I just switched our BOG ADR last night. That's when I saw the price increase. We're on the QSDP, so it didn't matter to me. Our total for 3 meals was $72 and that included the beverage. So the $24 includes the beverage.

 

[jrmasm]

I'm not doing anything wrong that needs justification. I'm simply explaining why they are creating their own problem.

Clearly I disagree. Have good day.

 

[DisBuckMan]

We have an 8:55 ADR so I'm not even expecting to bolt to a ride. First visit, we were seriously planning to enjoy BOG after the rushing breakfast-just-to-get-in crowd ran out. If it wasn't $170 for 6 sandwiches they wouldn't have people having just coffee. I'd rather it be prixe fixed at a reasonably rate (keeping into account it is Disney) that required everyone to get an entree so that the few that actually want to aren't punished in paying indirectly for those who do.

Is the difference between $158 and $170 a deal breaker for your group?

 

[TeresaWen]

For those concerned about Disney closing the coffee / cupcake only loophole - why do you care since it is not something anyone should be doing. And since you never would just get coffee or a cupcake it had absolutely no impact on you.

it is vacation. I would not eat cupcakes for breakfast at home but it Disney I would. Even for $5.00. It is not a loophole. It is a food choice

 

[married2mm]

I often eat (?!) out with dh & dmil and only order a drink.
I'm a VERY selective eater and combined with various health issues it's simply easier and more relaxing to eat either before or after their choice of restaurant.
I'm there for the company rather than the food-I'm sure I'm not alone.

 

[Paigevon]

Clearly I disagree. Have good day.

I'm not manipulating anything to create a loophole. It is clearly a menu option. I'm not adding a meal then deleting it, or something sneaky. I'm not ordering extra magic bands to get extra fastpasses.

You too.

 

[Paigevon]

Is the difference between $158 and $170 a deal breaker for your group?

Well now that I know the entree includes a drink at least still, I am relieved about that.

The total would have been approx $121 before, $50 is a large difference, that's a whole dinner plus!

I'm sure we'll end up ordering some food, but my MIL and FIL will literally flip out over a $24 breakfast sandwich at a CS restaurant. They make more money than we do, so it's not even about the money. I previously thought it'd be $24 breakfast sandwich plus a $4 drink, verse a $19 breakfast including the drink. At least the $24 includes the drink apparently. $14 for a bowl of Kellogs is unjustifiable.

 

[VillainFavs]

So my family of four goes in and orders one adult entree at $24, it will include one beverage? Then we add 3 more coffee/hot chocolates at $2.50 each. So total bill is $31.50. Will they bring a plate of pastries with the entree for us to share as well?

Yep, call me cheap! But at $24 for a cronut, I'm looking to get as much out of this as possible!

 

[Lirael]

Thank you, Disney, for making my ADR planning easier by eliminating BOG breakfast from it

 

[Minnesota!]

$14.00 for a bowl of fruit loops!!! I wonder if Mickey gives you a kiss on the cheek when you leave...

More like a tub of Vaseline when you walk in.. Ahem.

We went right after BOG breakfasts were a thing...like Day 3. And it was SO worth it to us. Even at $19/person. The food was good, and we got such a jump on the park that we were done with everything before noon. It was EXCELLENT. Even though it would be "only" $24 more for my family to dine there...there is no way in hell I would pay it. Not to get a jump on the same tired ash stuff I have seen over and over and over.

Wow, I just can't even formulate the ridiculousness into words.

 

[HopperFan]

I'm still shaking my head on this one.

I think a middle school math student can figure out that they are shooting themselves in the foot once word spreads that it's only a $5 flat fee for a family to explore the restaurant or get that "extra FP+" at pre-park opening. But now the great thing is even those with a later pre-park ADR, like 8:30-8:50 (on a 9 am open) have it made. One person goes in, while the rest line up for 7DMT or whatever. The one person pays the $3 for a drink, gets their drink and walks out the door to join the family. Or for the big spenders, order a cupcake then quickly walk out not waiting for it. $5 fee for pre-park, priceless ... thank you bean counters that are dipping way too much into the pixie dust.


Even though I enjoy BOG breakfast items I had already decided that we probably wouldn't go back due to the inflated price last round, and now with this round it's an easy decision.

 

[jsmla]

I really would just cancel altogether but I'm under 30 days out and already have my FP + all booked. My MK plan was made with that pre-opening breakfast in mind. I've done this four or five times now and it really worked well for me.

At any rate, my willingness to tow the line and do the right thing by Disney is decreasing every day. Prices are rapidly approaching my "that's ridiculous" threshold but, if they go to prix fixe only, I'm guessing there will be people out there willing to pay just to get into the park early. I just wonder how many will bother with breakfast in the 9-10:30 time frame. I can't imagine spending $25 and missing prime touring time for the stuff I've eaten there. Yes, it's better than the Bounty Platter but it's definitely not $15 better!

All hail the yogurt and banana in the room!

 

[GillianP1301]

For those concerned about Disney closing the coffee / cupcake only loophole - why do you care since it is not something anyone should be doing. And since you never would just get coffee or a cupcake it had absolutely no impact on you.

it is vacation. I would not eat cupcakes for breakfast at home but it Disney I would. Even for $5.00. It is not a loophole. It is a food choice

This!

I can't for the life of me figure out why people seem to think that WDW restaurants are different than any other restaurant in the world. As a customer, you can order as much or as little as you want, it has zero impact on what everyone else around you is ordering/eating.

BOG is a QS restaurant, why is it so outrageous to think someone would want to eat a cupcake for breakfast? If that is so outrageous, maybe they should stop selling cinnamon buns to people at Gaston's Tavern too.

As for all this flap about people finding a "loophole" to get an early 7DMT ride, who cares? First off, it is a very small % of people who would even bother doing it for that reason (remember the average park goer is not a DIS type level of knowledge on WDW) and secondly, back to my original point, a person can order/eat whatever they want, it's none of my business.

The breakfast price increase is not due to trying to compensate for all those horrible cupcake only eating people (yes, sarcasm), it's basic supply/demand. BOG has crazy high demand, that inevitably drives up the price. As a consumer, it's our choice as to when that price is too much and then you can choose to not go and that's fine. But don't try to blame the cupcake eaters on ruining your opportunity to eat breakfast there.

 

[Ensusieasm]

Maybe, just maybe, the reason they are offering that one cupcake is because so many guests were asking for "The Grey Stuff". The chef is just trying to make guests happy, sprinkling a bit of pixie dust on the breakfast crowd. I hope the chef doesn't read the Dis. He'll be crying in the soup.

 

[Lisa F]

This!

I can't for the life of me figure out why people seem to think that WDW restaurants are different than any other restaurant in the world. As a customer, you can order as much or as little as you want, it has zero impact on what everyone else around you is ordering/eating.

BOG is a QS restaurant, why is it so outrageous to think someone would want to eat a cupcake for breakfast? If that is so outrageous, maybe they should stop selling cinnamon buns to people at Gaston's Tavern too.

As for all this flap about people finding a "loophole" to get an early 7DMT ride, who cares? First off, it is a very small % of people who would even bother doing it for that reason (remember the average park goer is not a DIS type level of knowledge on WDW) and secondly, back to my original point, a person can order/eat whatever they want, it's none of my business.

The breakfast price increase is not due to trying to compensate for all those horrible cupcake only eating people (yes, sarcasm), it's basic supply/demand. BOG has crazy high demand, that inevitably drives up the price. As a consumer, it's our choice as to when that price is too much and then you can choose to not go and that's fine. But don't try to blame the cupcake eaters on ruining your opportunity to eat breakfast there.

The problem is there are some people who are psychic and know what Disney is thinking and feeling even before Disney does. Disney has rule x, but people just KNOW that the INTENT of the rule is Y and will get very very angry at people who do not agree with their interpretation of the intent of Disney's rules and follow it... because if they don't, the whole world will come crashing around down everyone's ears.

But really Disney is just a company, not a person with thoughts and feelings. And they are trying to make money. And sometimes they make good decisions. And sometimes they make bad ones. Raising the prices on things never seems to be a bad decision for Disney because people will pay it. I may not and you may not but someone else will. The DISers are not the typical vacationers. A friend of mine just got back from Disney and she stayed at AKL with dining plan and ate at Boma every night because she didn't want to deal with reservations anywhere so. not my cup of tea but I suspect she is not alone in the "eat at the resort" model.

I'm sure they have run the math on the number of people who will pay $24 for breakfast and the number who will order coffee and a cupcake and how much money they will make and has decided that this might work better. Maybe they are having staff cutbacks there and they can make do with fewer staff if they get some number of people who are spending $5 on a $0.50 cupcake that is mass produced the night before by the night bakers rather than a $19 or $21 or $24 entree that has to be made to order and served immediately. Who knows. I am not a Disney psychic. BUT it is not out of the realm of possibility that Disney actually... you know... MEANS to open up the cupcake and coffee option to people and it is not a loophole to be exploited by the WDW OCD.

 

[Paigevon]

Just spoke with a CM who said "may be moving toward prix fixe"

Also, when I was booking a reservation for my husband on the morning DD and I have CRT reservations, the policies lingo said, word-for-word "1 quick service meal is required." When I asked for clarification if 1 quick service meal was required per person dining, or if people could share, she looked into it and said she thinks that is referring to the Disney Dining Plan and typically sharing has been allowed.

I can't help but wonder if she is wrong and 1 quick service meal is required per person.

Edit to add: She was also unable to confirm if the entree included a drink.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

I've told someone, elsewhere, to order the coffee and not feel abject shame about it. Disney's opened up the loophole, and until they lose it, it's valid.

The thing is, externally, is that just jacking prices repeatedly to make up for people splitting meals, particularly at PPO breakfast, but also adding several options that are ridiculously easy to exploit, makes no economic sense. If you're already looking at 1 in 3 people filling up the place at breakfast and lunch actually ordering something, adding a $3 coffee to those tabs may help margins (especially because the profit margin on coffee is great), but it ends up balanced out by having even fewer people order a real entree or meal.

The only way this ends up balancing out economically is if they figure day-old cupcakes made during dinner service the night before, and reducing overall kitchen staff in the morning to balance out the lower number of orders. Which is awful in its own way, but would fit with current park cutbacks.

 

[candy0730]

I have 2 pre park ressies for BOG in 2 weeks and am very disappointed that Disney increased the already ridiculous price. I was willing to pay it so that we could get first dibs on SDMT and not have to rush with the masses at park opening. The thing that frustrates me the most is that I already have FP booked and did not include SDMT. Of course at this late date there are none available so I cannot cancel BOG if I want to ride SDMT with a short wait. It would be nice if Disney would offer a heads up of say 60 days before the price hike so that all of our planning isn't wasted.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if some guests with pre park ressies skip the breakfast and just pay the $10 penalty for not canceling.

 

[_auroraborealis_]

$10 per person. So I really think most will just have 1 person show up, order coffee, leave. Ta-da, no penalty.