All resort non-smoking

[ammo]

Charlie,

Wow -- you might want to consider editing that statement before too many people see it. I think analogies have been stretched far beyond the bounds of reason in this thread.

 

[tjkraz]

Someone mentioned a decrease in maintenance costs by not allowing smoking....

Think of how much maintenance costs would decrease if they stopped allowing kids to stay in the rooms too. Kids not only cause odor, but "residue" on linens, windows, carpets, walls, etc. Rooms that are exposed, long term, to kids tend to be more expensive to refurb, and require more frequent "repair".

Fortunately they aren't prone to causing cancer (or any number of other ailments) in those around them, nor does their presenece in a Disney guest room cause an insurer to charge higher premiums due to the increased risk of fire.

 

[Charlie22668]

Now that disney has banned smoking, I hope they go one further. I hope Disney bans farting in the rooms and on balconies. I mean, if i have my patio door open do i really want my neighbor's farts to be drifting over and into my room? That's far more offensive than a little cigarette smoke. And I can always tell as soon as i enter the room when the previous people went to the San Angel Inn for their "last night in Disney" dinner.

 

[mjy]

Yes, sounds like a new standard clause needs to be added into the rental contract!!! Perhaps a "No Smoking Guarantee" deposit equal to the cleaning fees (that will be refunded if the owner doesn't get charged)...

I claim patent on this new clause! You can add this new clause to your rental contacts for one-time payment of 50 points transferred to my account.

BAD move on your part. You'd only get 50 points out of the whole deal since Disney only allows one transfer into your account per year.

You should have come up with a different reward before you patented your idea. Too bad . . . you lose!

 

[mjy]

Now that disney has banned smoking, I hope they go one further. I hope Disney bans farting in the rooms and on balconies. I mean, if i have my patio door open do i really want my neighbor's farts to be drifting over and into my room? That's far more offensive than a little cigarette smoke. And I can always tell as soon as i enter the room when the previous people went to the San Angel Inn for their "last night in Disney" dinner.

But that just helps build the case not to smoke. After all, it would be exceedingly dangerous -- if the room you walk into is filled with gas -- to light a match for your cigarette!

 

[smjj]

Someone mentioned a decrease in maintenance costs by not allowing smoking....

Think of how much maintenance costs would decrease if they stopped allowing kids to stay in the rooms too. Kids not only cause odor, but "residue" on linens, windows, carpets, walls, etc. Rooms that are exposed, long term, to kids tend to be more expensive to refurb, and require more frequent "repair".

Somehow I think that is a cost just about all consider normal seeing as Disney caters to families. This is not a fair comparision by any standard. Some of the anaogies are getting a little far fetched and could get this thread closed if some don't bring theses back down to earth...smjj

 

[Charlie22668]

But that just helps build the case not to smoke. After all, it would be exceedingly dangerous -- if the room you walk into is filled with gas -- to light a match for your cigarette!

Excellent point!!!

Has this horse been beaten to death yet?? (I really don't like that expression considering I own at SS)

 

[darlak]

The first taxes to be raised when any area needs more funding for education is usually the "Luxury Tax". We smokers and drinkers usually never even complain. I believe that non-essential items should be taxed before other items. If we all quit smoking as some of you would like us to do, how do you propose to make up for that loss of revenue? I smoke in only the designated smoking areas, but am still often subjected to extreme rudeness by non-smokers who are offended by my smoking while they are in the smoking area. I had a woman walk up to me last month while I was sitting in the bar area at Pop's Hippy Dippy pool, and tell me that there was no smoking around the pool. She walked some distance to come up to my while I smoked my vile cigarette and had a small child in her arms. In spite of knowing she was pulling this out of her a**, I was very polite and even apologized to her. I AM going to smoke. I will be as considerate of non-smokers as I can possibily be, but I'm getting really tired of rude non-smokers who feel it's aceptable to be rude to anyone who smokes. If all non-smokers, bless their hearts, would practice some basic good manners, we might all be able to get along.

 

[Questforthemouse]

listen all i'm saying is that i paid the same money as everyone else, yet i'm having restrictions put on me[/QUOTE]

You have the same restrictions put on you as everyone else. All people that consider themselves non-smokers are not allowed to smoke in rooms/on balconies and all people that consider themselves smokers are not allowed to smoke in rooms/on balconies. Same restrictions for all...None of us can smoke in rooms/on balconies...

 

[darlak]

I can't help but wonder if you all would have been this rude to Walt if he lit up. You do realize that he was a smoker, right?


Smokers unite. Instead of just venting here, contact Disney and let them know your opinion. It probably won't change anything, but how long are we just going to sit quietly by and say nothing as our rights are stripped little by little?

 

[kjjlouie]

And what about all the DVC owners who bought DVC thinking they could smoke? That's a lot of money to drop only to find out now you aren't welcome in your "home away from home."

What about all the people who made vacation plans a year ago, only to find out that now, THEY don't have a smoking room LIKE THEY WERE PROMISED?

Next, the Moral Majority around here won't let you have wine in your room or on your balcony, because "it's a family place."

Yes, I've the effects of second hand wine can be devastating to your health!

 

[kjjlouie]

Now that disney has banned smoking, I hope they go one further. I hope Disney bans farting in the rooms and on balconies. I mean, if i have my patio door open do i really want my neighbor's farts to be drifting over and into my room? That's far more offensive than a little cigarette smoke. And I can always tell as soon as i enter the room when the previous people went to the San Angel Inn for their "last night in Disney" dinner.

Dude, this is priceless

 

[smjj]

Smokers unite. Instead of just venting here, contact Disney and let them know your opinion. It probably won't change anything, but how long are we just going to sit quietly by and say nothing as our rights are stripped little by little?

I believe Disney stated they are providing areas where you can light up so they are not taking away any right anymore than when they restricted smoking in the parks and restaurants. And besides this is a company that is responding to a overwelming demand. Disney is not a govermental agency. Its private property and they can pretty much do as they wish with in the law of course...smjj

 

[mjy]

I can't help but wonder if you all would have been this rude to Walt if he lit up. You do realize that he was a smoker, right?

That's right.

But he might be the wrong example to use here because if he were not, we may all have had him a lot longer. Remember, he died of lung cancer...

 

[alldiz]

Ok.....I didn't read all 20 pages.....

Here's the deal....

Smoking is a very addictive expensive habit....

After spending THOUSANDS of dollars
If anyone thinks that most of these smokers will give
a damn about a 300 dollar smoking fee.....THINK AGAIN....

This new little diddy will now make ALL ROOMS SMOKING OPTIONAL....

So now all of the people who need ventilators....ya know
when they pass some 2nd hand smoke....
Betta carry a portable....Cause now the smoke will
not be contained....

This will make it worse.....no guarantees now that your
room has not been smoked in....

Does anyone really think that someone who smokes and
spends thousands of dollars on a LEGAL SUBSTANCE....

Won't continue their habit of sitting on the bowl in the
bathroom....smoking their ciggy....

this is my mom's routine....I can guarantee she wont change it...
Let the tobacco police come arrest her....after she bought
them in the gift shop..

I really feel for non smokers.....I am one....
But smokers should have their own room.

One girls opinion
Kerri

 

[DVCconvert]

Disney-owned hotels ban smoking
If caught, guests face a steep 'cleaning fee.'


Scott Powers | Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted May 2, 2007

No more smoking or nonsmoking room options at Walt Disney World hotels. No more foul, secondhand smoke lingering in a room or wafting down a hallway. And no more last, quiet cigarette of the night out on the balcony, under a rising Florida moon.

Disney World said Tuesday it is putting out cigarettes and cigars for good in its hotels and time-share buildings, making it the largest single-site resort complex to take such an action, company officials said. Starting June 1, smoking will be banned in all Disney-owned hotel rooms and time-share rooms, and on their balconies, patios and other areas except designated smoking zones.

"We've just continued to see the demand for smoking decline, and in the last several years it has really begun to fall off dramatically," Disney World Senior Vice President Erin Wallace said. "Less than 4 percent of our rooms today are being reserved for smokers. It's time to go the whole way."

As with its policy in the theme parks, Disney World will designate outdoor smoking areas in fairly private locations at all its hotels. Disney instituted a similar policy last year at its Disneyland hotels in California.

The ban reflects a national trend among hotels. However, some hotels not owned by the Walt Disney Co. on Disney World property, such as the Hilton on Hotel Plaza Boulevard, will continue to permit smoking.

Whether smokers will gravitate to those hotels is unclear. Wallace said Disney will help rebook hotel guests who already have reservations and were expecting to be able to smoke.

Smokers-rights advocate Chris McCalla of Columbus, Ga., thinks smokers will vote with their wallets. McCalla, legislative director for the Retail Tobacco Dealers of America, said 18 percent of the American population uses tobacco products. He said that's a big minority for any business to dismiss.

"A lot of members say, 'You know what? I'm not going back,' " he said. "If that's how they treat us, we won't go back."

Maybe. But Disney and hotel chains that already ban smoking are doing so in part to please the majority of their customers, said Abe Pizam, dean of the University of Central Florida's Rosen College of Hospitality Management. Nonsmokers are getting more and more assertive in objecting to secondhand smoke, he said.

"They want that there be no smoking in their presence. It's not just a couple feet away," Pizam said. "So this is answering the market demand. It's not just that Disney came up with the idea -- the idea came from the bottom up. The customers are demanding that."

It can be expensive to sneak a cigarette in a nonsmoking room. If Disney finds that someone did light up, a "cleaning fee" of $250 to $500 will be tacked onto the customer's bill. That is to cover the replacement of fabrics such as draperies and bedding, and the deep cleaning of everything else.

"We will charge them a cleaning fee. That's pretty typical in the industry," Wallace said. "We'll be clear to say no, and we're going to enforce the policy."

 

[Inkmahm]

The first taxes to be raised when any area needs more funding for education is usually the "Luxury Tax".

Not true where I live. The school budget comes from local property taxes.

 

[Olaf]

They don't enforce the current smoking rules in the parks and we've had two "non-smoking" rooms that reeked, so basically, I'm not holding my breath on this one.

 

[Inkmahm]

It can be expensive to sneak a cigarette in a nonsmoking room. If Disney finds that someone did light up, a "cleaning fee" of $250 to $500 will be tacked onto the customer's bill. That is to cover the replacement of fabrics such as draperies and bedding, and the deep cleaning of everything else.

"We will charge them a cleaning fee. That's pretty typical in the industry," Wallace said. "We'll be clear to say no, and we're going to enforce the policy."

YAY!!! Hopefully Disney WILL enforce the policy as they say they will.

If this policy went into effect at Disneyland last year, anyone know what the effect has been? Have smokers stayed away in droves? (I doubt it.) Has DL been charging this cleaning fee to those smokers who break the rules? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

[dznymom1]

Non-smoker here, more concerned with how this policy was implemented and what it could mean in the future. I wonder how people would feel if certain other changes took place because only a small percentage utilize them. For example, what percentage of EPCOT visitors enter via World Showcase? It might be cost effective for Disney to close that entrance. There are many, many changes Disney can make that can affect any of us, so don't lose sight of that in your excitement over the Smoking Ban.