Working moms: Do you feel held back?

Honestly, for DH and I (who both work full-time). We take turns on taking off if someone is sick, schools out, etc. Recently, something was going on and we were discussing the next day's plan if we got the call someone had to go. He said "I have X at 10, but can leave after that". I said "Nope, that's not how it works. I did X day, so you've got today". That particular day we didn't get a call, but I'm not putting up with his job responsibilities being more important than mine. I'm expected to work, too...and that makes us equals. So, we split it 50/50 as much as possible.

This may not apply to you, but the "his job is inflexible" makes me feel like it's the same thing. Why is his job inflexible? Is he salary? Does he get sick leave/annual leave? It should not be all your opportunity.

Just my two cents...feel free to ignore. :)
 
Honestly, for DH and I (who both work full-time). We take turns on taking off if someone is sick, schools out, etc. Recently, something was going on and we were discussing the next day's plan if we got the call someone had to go. He said "I have X at 10, but can leave after that". I said "Nope, that's not how it works. I did X day, so you've got today". That particular day we didn't get a call, but I'm not putting up with his job responsibilities being more important than mine. I'm expected to work, too...and that makes us equals. So, we split it 50/50 as much as possible.

This may not apply to you, but the "his job is inflexible" makes me feel like it's the same thing. Why is his job inflexible? Is he salary? Does he get sick leave/annual leave? It should not be all your opportunity.

Just my two cents...feel free to ignore. :)

I guess I feel that his job is inflexible because he's only been there a few weeks. It seems like calling in sick would be a bad way to start out.
 
It's funny. We have almost the exact same situations but I'm the opposite of you. I'm the main earner. I'm the owner of a business that really requires little of me to run (but is a constant drain on my life and full of drama and stress). I'm the one who shops, gets kids up for school, pays all the bills. Does 90% of the cleaning. DH is in college. His current job is steady and provides insurance which is really important.

Technically I could invest more time and take on more responsibility in my business and earn waaay more money but I choose not to. I'm sick of being the bread and butter and I really would like for DH to get a great job with his degree and allow me to sell my business when he graduates. After pursuing my "dreams" and fulfilling most of my potential I realize I hate being the big dog. Money isn't everything and you can't buy back time or sanity. My business has turned me into a bitter person and it's definitely lost its charm.

I'll probably always work but having flexibility and low stress is priceless to me now. "Success" is overrated. Being there for my kids when they're sick is important to me. More work=more money=more stuff? I'm realizing the stuff just doesn't matter as much. Good luck with your decision.
 
I guess I feel that his job is inflexible because he's only been there a few weeks. It seems like calling in sick would be a bad way to start out.

But that's a time-limited condition. Make sure you have a good back-up plan at the start, and let him know that he's just going to have to be a little more flexible as he's able (once he's got a little time in on the job).
 

My kids are 7 & 9 (turning 8 & 10 in a couple of months). We've been a dual income household since the kids were infants. Here is my 2 cents on your situation:

1. It sounds like on the days that you are doing your contract nursing gig and DD is sick, your MIL won't babysit...so MIL won't babysit when DD is ill, right? I've gotta say...THAT SUCKS! I lived through that for awhile when my MIL moved to our city when ODD was a year old. MIL was totally keen on babysitting. We had ODD at the time in a full time infant daycare...to the tune of $980/month and that was 9 years ago. We pulled her out of the daycare and MIL babysat full time for awhile. We even paid her for it, so MIL earned a monthly income, too. Every single time ODD came down with a cold or a sniffle, MIL refused to babysit. And then MIL wanted to be able to take weeks off at a time with no advanced notice. So we never got to take any of OUR vacation time off for anything but MIL's out of town trips. Needless to say, within 3 months, it was obvious that it wasn't going to work out. It took another 4 months for me to secure another spot at a daycare.

2. Kids get sick. So if your DD is at an at-home childcare or pretty much anywhere, she's going to get sick. So regardless of what type of job you have, you will likely need to take time off of work to care for her. It sucks a lot when they're really little. By the time they're in 1st grade, though, the monthly illnesses are few and far between. So even if you take the new job that pays $25k more per year, you WILL have to take time off of work to care for a sick child. Just plan on it.

3. You & DH need to negotiate between the 2 of you on this issue, without MIL present. It's a husband & wife decision, not a grandmother decision.

4. I've been in your situation many times before where my DH's job has zero flexibility on time off. Many times, an employer's organization or your immediate supervisor/boss really doesn't give a care about your kid being sick. What makes it really difficult is if BOTH parents have jobs that are inflexible. And if you take the regular 'full time employee' nursing gig, I almost guarantee you that you will be low man on the totem pole. This means that you will likely work most holidays, weekends, etc., you won't get your first pick on shifts, stuff like that.

5. How old is your DD?

6. Daycare is expensive and I'll be honest with you on this....most, if not all, daycare centers do not really have a program set up where you can drop off your child 1 day this week, 2 days next week, etc. You usually have to commit to either full time M-F, 3 days a week, and a few places might have options for 2 days a week. But on the part time daycare options, your child is there on set days and those days don't vary. What I'm trying to tell you is that you won't have the option of doing something like this - next week, you're scheduled to work Mon, Tues, & Wed, so DD goes to daycare on those days. But the following week, you're working Tues, Thurs, & Fri, so you take her to daycare on those days and you only pay for the days that she's there. In reality, you would have to sign her up for full time M-F and pay for it even though you might not actually need it the entire week.

7. If you take the full time job with big salary increase & considering that your work schedule will likely vary a fair amount at first, you & DH will need to adjust things in your DD's social life & extracurricular activites. For example, if the dance class is in the early afternoon, you'll either have to find another dance class, drop the class altogether, or have MIL pick her up from childcare and take her to dance class. Same thing for other planned activities.

8. If there's a possibility that you'll be moving to a different city/state after DH graduates, then it might not be a good idea to take a new full time job, even if it's $24k/year more. It will make it look on your resume like you're flighty or unreliable. Future employers might look at it in a bad light.

In our situation in our family right now, my career growth has been sidelined for a few years and it's been stagnant. But my employer has a great work-life balance sort of attitude about things and I don't get grief for having to leave early to pick up sick children from school. I cannot tell you how valuable that is. DH, on the other hand, has been working hard on growing his career. He just started a new job a month and a half ago and he doesn't even have benefits yet. At his previous work place, if you took ANY days off within the first 6 months of employment, you'd be fired. So I **HAD** to pick up the slack.

I don't think that you necessarily need counseling. You & DH just need to get on the same page on what your mutual goals are and figure out a plan on how to juggle it all.

And by the way, here in my neck of the woods, last-minute babysitters to care for a sick child can cost $15-$20/hour. Regular babysitters cost that much, too. I think it's kind of a lot to ask a friend to watch your child full time. So I disagree a bit with another person's suggestion on that.
 
Correct, assuming I can get DH on board with it. I have to leave for work at 6 am, so he'd need to get DD to the babysitter. Currently, MIL comes to our house to watch DD most days. He stays pretty busy between his job and classes, so he might not like using some of his study time to drive DD to a babysitter.

I'm shaking my head! He might not "like" dropping off HIS child at day care so you should turn down a great job offer and a large raise? This is crazy.

Seriously if all you say is true, then it's way past time to hold him accountable for the life you two have created.

Take the job, hire a sitter or put your DD in school rather than Home School. Then let you DH know what contributions he will need to make.

Consider seeking Professional help to learn to assert yourself.
 
Take the job. For the extra money, get a housekeeper/part-time nanny to take on some of your responsibilities. DH should take the time off as needed, he's the lowest wage earner and the one who can risk his "job" for the little amount he makes anyway…

The other option is to work weekends. My SIL is a nurse and tries to schedule most of her shifts on the weekend to avoid child care…that's when my brother looks after the kids...
 
There's more going on here… Do you want to work, or do you want to stay home with your daughter? This statement is really telling…

No, they are busy enough with their own kids, and I'm not sure I completely trust them to watch her and give her enough attention all day. It could work with DH's mom watching her most days, and our backup for days when something comes up.
 
When will your dh be done with grad school? Did you have a discussion about how your household would work while he was in school? Just thinking if you were encouraging him to go and willing to take on supporting your household it wouldn't be fair to not hold up your end of the bargain now. And honestly, and not saying 24k is not a lot of extra money, but if you are going to pay for cleaning ladies and daycare, and other conveniences you're going to be eating into a lot of your extra earnings. Just something to think about.
 
Yes, being a mother definitely holds me back. While I *wish* I was a SAHM, I am not. I am classified as a "corporate professional" in a very large company, with all of the bells and whistles that come along with that role (not that there are very many nowadays!). I seldom travel in my current position, but depending on the project, there have been times I have had to travel up to 3-4 times a year in the past 6 years.

I would LOVE to get out of the role I am currently in and follow a career path that is much more interesting to me (I'm currently in a very analytical role) like training and development or recruiting, etc, but those roles are very travel-heavy and I just cannot do it. There is NO way I could leave my family once a month or more for work-trips.

DH, on the other hand, could travel every week and life would go on here without a hitch.
 
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My kids are 7 & 9 (turning 8 & 10 in a couple of months). We've been a dual income household since the kids were infants. Here is my 2 cents on your situation:

1. It sounds like on the days that you are doing your contract nursing gig and DD is sick, your MIL won't babysit...so MIL won't babysit when DD is ill, right? I've gotta say...THAT SUCKS! I lived through that for awhile when my MIL moved to our city when ODD was a year old. MIL was totally keen on babysitting. We had ODD at the time in a full time infant daycare...to the tune of $980/month and that was 9 years ago. We pulled her out of the daycare and MIL babysat full time for awhile. We even paid her for it, so MIL earned a monthly income, too. Every single time ODD came down with a cold or a sniffle, MIL refused to babysit. And then MIL wanted to be able to take weeks off at a time with no advanced notice. So we never got to take any of OUR vacation time off for anything but MIL's out of town trips. Needless to say, within 3 months, it was obvious that it wasn't going to work out. It took another 4 months for me to secure another spot at a daycare.

2. Kids get sick. So if your DD is at an at-home childcare or pretty much anywhere, she's going to get sick. So regardless of what type of job you have, you will likely need to take time off of work to care for her. It sucks a lot when they're really little. By the time they're in 1st grade, though, the monthly illnesses are few and far between. So even if you take the new job that pays $25k more per year, you WILL have to take time off of work to care for a sick child. Just plan on it.

3. You & DH need to negotiate between the 2 of you on this issue, without MIL present. It's a husband & wife decision, not a grandmother decision.

4. I've been in your situation many times before where my DH's job has zero flexibility on time off. Many times, an employer's organization or your immediate supervisor/boss really doesn't give a care about your kid being sick. What makes it really difficult is if BOTH parents have jobs that are inflexible. And if you take the regular 'full time employee' nursing gig, I almost guarantee you that you will be low man on the totem pole. This means that you will likely work most holidays, weekends, etc., you won't get your first pick on shifts, stuff like that.

5. How old is your DD?

6. Daycare is expensive and I'll be honest with you on this....most, if not all, daycare centers do not really have a program set up where you can drop off your child 1 day this week, 2 days next week, etc. You usually have to commit to either full time M-F, 3 days a week, and a few places might have options for 2 days a week. But on the part time daycare options, your child is there on set days and those days don't vary. What I'm trying to tell you is that you won't have the option of doing something like this - next week, you're scheduled to work Mon, Tues, & Wed, so DD goes to daycare on those days. But the following week, you're working Tues, Thurs, & Fri, so you take her to daycare on those days and you only pay for the days that she's there. In reality, you would have to sign her up for full time M-F and pay for it even though you might not actually need it the entire week.

7. If you take the full time job with big salary increase & considering that your work schedule will likely vary a fair amount at first, you & DH will need to adjust things in your DD's social life & extracurricular activites. For example, if the dance class is in the early afternoon, you'll either have to find another dance class, drop the class altogether, or have MIL pick her up from childcare and take her to dance class. Same thing for other planned activities.

8. If there's a possibility that you'll be moving to a different city/state after DH graduates, then it might not be a good idea to take a new full time job, even if it's $24k/year more. It will make it look on your resume like you're flighty or unreliable. Future employers might look at it in a bad light.

In our situation in our family right now, my career growth has been sidelined for a few years and it's been stagnant. But my employer has a great work-life balance sort of attitude about things and I don't get grief for having to leave early to pick up sick children from school. I cannot tell you how valuable that is. DH, on the other hand, has been working hard on growing his career. He just started a new job a month and a half ago and he doesn't even have benefits yet. At his previous work place, if you took ANY days off within the first 6 months of employment, you'd be fired. So I **HAD** to pick up the slack.

I don't think that you necessarily need counseling. You & DH just need to get on the same page on what your mutual goals are and figure out a plan on how to juggle it all.

And by the way, here in my neck of the woods, last-minute babysitters to care for a sick child can cost $15-$20/hour. Regular babysitters cost that much, too. I think it's kind of a lot to ask a friend to watch your child full time. So I disagree a bit with another person's suggestion on that.

1) MIL will watch DD when DD is sick. It's when MIL is sick that she doesn't want to babysit, which I really can't fault her for.
4) I wouldn't be the low man on the them pole. It's the same job, same manager, same position, simply a different contract. No loss of seniority.
5) DD is 3
6) my 2 backups could take her a few days here or there. They charge on a day to day basis.
7) that's true, it may have to be rexamined.
8) it wouldn't be a change in position, just a different contract. We are in a big shortage so they are redoing our contracts in order to give us incentive to work more. Even if I did change jobs often, most hospitals wouldn't care. They want an experienced nurse to fill their staffing ratios, it's kind of expected that nurses change jobs regularly.

Even if we had to hire a last minute sitter, at $15- $20/hr or whatever, I would come out ahead hourly by going to work.
 
I'm and RN and I currently work a PRN contract. Today an opportunity came up for me to earn an extra $24k per year. I would love to jump on this opportunity, but it would require me to commit to working three 12 hour shifts per week. Which in theory sounds do able, but I would have to schedule myself in advance, whereas in my current contract I decide whether to work day by day.

In talking to DH and his mom about it (she's our babysitter when I work), they are discouraging it for several reasons. DH works a mon-Fri job, with no flexibility. So if DD get sick or something, I have to be the one to take off. I am the one who does laundry, shops, cooks, takes DD to dance class and homeschool co op and all the fun activities we do. I am also the one responsible for earning the lion's share of our income and paying the bills.

DH is currently taking grad school classes and will be done in December. We have around $6k left in tuition due by Aug 22. The extra money would help with that. Additionally, we need to fix up the house a bit and potentially have a big move in our future after he graduates, so the boost in income will help

I feel like I'm in such a catch 22. I'm supposed to earn the money, pay the bills, be the wife and mom, and work around everyone's schedules. I feel like I work the hardest in the family and yet when I have an opportunity to move ahead career wise, I have to turn it down, because of other factors in my life.

Anyone else feel this way? How do you make your career goals work with your family goals?

I'm a single mom (my son's dad is now married & unemployed by choice:sad2:), so I'm the breadwinner as well as the primary caregiver. Every thing I do in life is related to being a mom- I don't really get to make any decisions without considering the potential effects on my child (who is autistic, btw), so yes, I've felt your frustration at times. My son has been sick more than usual this year, and as I'm the primary caregiver I had to miss several days of work, which reduced my paycheck. Not fun, but that's my life. I always wanted to be happily married and a stay-at-home mother, but neither one happened for me. No sense in me being bitter about it.

I just focus on the positives, that I've got a wonderful, sweet son, and a stable job. Even though my life isn't easy, I feel luckier than those women who want children but can't have them. So I just try to count my blessings.
 
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OP, in short, no.

We seem to have somewhat similar situations. We're both the major breadwinner in the house. We both take care of the home finances, the cooking, the shopping, and a majority of household chores. We both have one DD. The difference is I would never allow my husband to dictate what I do with my career. Nor would I let his mother have a say (even if she were my babysitter). Nor, and this is where some people may look askance at me, would I let my daughter hold me back. I earn money to make his and her lives better. And, of course, mine as well.

DH is happy with me being the head of the household, and although I take a lot on my shoulders, that's because I'm a control freak and not because he wouldn't stoop to doing any chore I felt I couldn't (or didn't want to) do anymore. He would always support me in my career, and I have always supported his.

DD goes to Montessori, so I don't worry about her getting education/exercise/healthy food during the day. We can afford an expensive school in part because of the fact that both DH and I contribute significantly to our monthly income. I know a lot of people are against "daycare" run by "strangers". I'm not. I'm a third generation working mom, which may account for some of my feelings about working women and their "place" in the home. Two generations of my family's daughters have grown up to be very close to their working moms, to be successful in their own careers, and to set their daughters on the same path.
 
Definitely not a working mom issue - I agree with the others that this is a family issue.

My wife and I have gone back and forth over many years raising our kids sharing responsibility for various things. I think your husband needs to deal with helping out with more stuff when it comes to your daughter.
 
Honestly, for DH and I (who both work full-time). We take turns on taking off if someone is sick, schools out, etc. Recently, something was going on and we were discussing the next day's plan if we got the call someone had to go. He said "I have X at 10, but can leave after that". I said "Nope, that's not how it works. I did X day, so you've got today". That particular day we didn't get a call, but I'm not putting up with his job responsibilities being more important than mine. I'm expected to work, too...and that makes us equals. So, we split it 50/50 as much as possible.

This may not apply to you, but the "his job is inflexible" makes me feel like it's the same thing. Why is his job inflexible? Is he salary? Does he get sick leave/annual leave? It should not be all your opportunity.

Just my two cents...feel free to ignore. :)

I'm not against the idea of taking turns per say, but would never tell DW "it's your turn today because I did it last time", nor would my wife ever pull that on me.

There have been plenty of times I've taken off 2-3 times in a row, and she's done the same. An equitable division of responsibilities doesn't mean a strict adherence to "your turn, my turn".
 
OP, you need to think about the control thing you have going on as well. As women we want to be perfect and have it all. That includes perfectly groomed acting right children, no dust bunnies hiding houses, cleaned out cars and gourmet meals on the table. Reality is that not that and not even close. You're not sure you want your daughter in day care, you don't think your husband would or could take days off or get your child to wherever (by the way that's called parenting) and I'm sure there are many other thoughts and reasoning. The bottom line to an extent is your control and boundaries. If you are feeling overworked, it's because you probably want things done a certain way and it's just easier to do it yourself (I"m just guessing)

So in a way the only person holding you back is you.

I don't have children and I still have difficulty finding a work and life balance. I work around 50-60 hours a week and travel minimum 5-7 days a month. The answer is I don't care how my dishwasher is loaded, some times we have sandwiches and fruit for dinner, pizza delivers and having clean kitchen, clothes and bathrooms is just sometimes good enough for me.
 
Been there, done that. Looking back I realize that I was married but basically functioning as a single parent. If you were single, my guess is you would take the raise in a heartbeat and line up quality care for your child - step back and think about it. The problem is you have a husband who is selfishly not stepping up and contributing whether it be time, energy, helping out or earning wise. No way should a much lower paying brand new job like you describe have a higher priority than your job which is the one that supports the family. Maybe it would be better if he did not work and just did school and all the household responsibilities.
 
I'm not against the idea of taking turns per say, but would never tell DW "it's your turn today because I did it last time", nor would my wife ever pull that on me.

There have been plenty of times I've taken off 2-3 times in a row, and she's done the same. An equitable division of responsibilities doesn't mean a strict adherence to "your turn, my turn".

For us, if we don't go kind of strict my husband is too busy everyday. So, we do try to do do turns the majority of the time...sometimes that really truly does not work out and I am more flexible.

Op - I do think him being new at his job does make a difference. He's going to have to build up his leave to have any to take in the first place.
 


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