Will Contemporary Resort really be that popular?

spiceycat said:
you can easily walk to the MK from the Cont.

there are some of us who love the MK....

I like Epcot and sometimes stay at BWV or BCV for easy access to it.

but there is something about walking from you hotel to the MK>>>>> that is down right magical - and then coming back on the monrail.... ::MickeyMo

Oh, I don't disagree with you! I would still stay at CRV for a night or two as DisFlan comments. I just don't have as great a need to stay there; BW area would still win out for me....

good thing we all have differing preferences or we would all try and stay at the same resort at the same time of year, making things a little too crowded! ;)
 
I think a DVC at any of the three monorail resorts would sell out very quickly. I also think that a contemporary DVC would help sell other resorts, merely by adding a very attraction options for use of points from other resorts. While most here are saavy enough to know to buy where they want to stay, or to be extremely flexible if they want to use points inside the 7 month window, that's not exactly how DVC is sold to new owners. For example, buying at SSR might be more attractive to someone who things, "well, while my kids are still little, I can try to use my points for the CR."

Looking at the size of the land taken up by the north tower, it's hard to believe that this would be a very large resort, unless it's many stories high. It would be a great DVC addition. I'm not an owner yet -- just someone who perpetually thinks about it. I think I would almost certainly buy at the contemporary subject to seeing a plan of the actual building, so long as the use extends out past 2042, as it does with SSR.
 
Jen D said:
I think CRV would be huge and I think people will pay a lot.

I don't think it will be $120 per point though. I think the per point will be a reasonable increase. The dues however.... I think will be quite high.



Why would the dues be any higher there than any other DVC Resort that shares part of a hotel and it's features like BCV, VWL & BWV? It shouldn't behigher just because of the monorail. Maintaining the monorail can't be any more costly than maintaining bus service. Just curious about why you feel the dues would be high. :confused3 As for a CR DVC, I'd have no more interest in adding on there than I would anywhere else. Points are points to me because I never visit WDW during peak season. 7 month window and less has always gotten me what I've wanted including a Beach Cottage for a week at 7 months at VB. CR is cement city and is the last choice on my list now. DVC there won't change that. I do love the full service attached DVC Resorts but this idea just doesn't grab me.


DAVE
 
Maintaining the monorail can't be any more costly than maintaining bus service.
I wouldn't be so sure. Folks are often shocked at how expensive the monorail is.

There may be some bias, whereby the monorail does cause slightly higher fees at the Contemporary, but nothing earth-shaking would be my guess.
 

First, let it be noted that the MK is our favorite park, and we end up going there 2 to 3 times more often than any other single park. Also, the CR has very special memories for me, since I stayed there with my (now deceased) parents in Easter of '73 and '74.

However, we would have absolutely no desire to own there; people talk about SSR's supposed lack of theming - the CR is Late 60's Futuristic Cement. Also - and I know that this is a minority opinion on the DIS boards - we don't find walking from our room to a park to be in any way magical. At home, we walk to the grocery and video stores - at Disney, we like something different: a monorail, a boat, a bus (even when we drive, we get the parking tram!).

I predict that there would be a lot of interest from the "I love to walk there" contingent here on the DIS, and it would probably sell well as folks with young families buy for MK proximity, forgetting the 40-50 year nature of ownership. We would probably try to stay there once or twice, but own....nah.
 
I don't think that they'd have to charge more $ per point than what it would be at SSR or by inflation by the time they built it. They could just charge more points per night. But I don't think that would be much different from beach club or wilderness lodge.
 
I think the VCR would sell out faster than any previous DVC offering. Cmon, I know some of us are minimizing the appeal of this idea (DVC's premise is all about saving money) .. but there is a reason why the monorail resorts fetch the most money per night for cash-paying customers ... (location, theming, views, amenities)

These same reasons are why the VCR will sell out fast, at a higher premium IMO of course :)
 
Cinderella,

What rumor are you referring to regarding the Contemporary Resort? I haven't heard it yet. Is it just a rumor at this point, whatever it is?
 
It would be hard to pay $25 per point higher ($120 pp) for the Contemporary considering that at the 7 month mark, any other DVC owner could make the same reservation. I own at the BCV and the BWV, but I book outside of 7 mos usually. The only time that I would choose to stay at the Contemporary over the BCV or BWVs would be during Halloween to be closer to the MK. During the Spring, Summer I want to be at the BCV with the SAB. BCV/ BWV for Wine and Food Festival and Wilderness Lodge (hotel) and BWV DVC for Christmas. I like the location where the DVC is rumoured to be built on the North Wing. That's what we usually request when we stay there since it's a quick walk to the MK. We don't use the monorail from the CTR much since it's in the main bldg, except to go to the Polynesian or Grand Floridian restaurants.

I agree with another poster that I would probably choose the GF or Poly over a CTR villa to be closer to the monorail. I wish that they would have a DVC at the Grand Floridian!
 
DrTomorrow said:
However, we would have absolutely no desire to own there; people talk about SSR's supposed lack of theming - the CR is Late 60's Futuristic Cement. Also - and I know that this is a minority opinion on the DIS boards - we don't find walking from our room to a park to be in any way magical. At home, we walk to the grocery and video stores - at Disney, we like something different: a monorail, a boat, a bus (even when we drive, we get the parking tram!)

Hey, some of us like Late 60's Futuristic Cement as a theme! No accounting for taste, I guess.
 
Daitcher said:
Just curious about why you feel the dues would be high. :confused3 DAVE

I guess it just seems to me the monorail upkeep would make it higher. Only speculation, of course.
 
I think a DVC unit at the Contemporary would be much more likely to sport the highest point structure rather than a higher selling price than SSR. It would not surprise me to find out that Disney regrets not having had a higher point structure at BCV. If they had done it that way each time a DVC owner stayed at BCV more points would be sucked out of the system leaving more space available at other resorts for rental purposes or for letting members stay at popular times like Christmas. Since BCV seems to be running at high capacity that would have worked well in increasing opportunity for members at other resorts. It appears to me Disney did just this sort of thing when they established the point structures for SSR and in a way for BCV & VWL. SSR is a resort similar to OKW yet the "cost" for staying there is greater. BCV & VWL are similar to BWV yet there is no standard view available.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the points for this rumored resort turned out to be 10% higher (and rounded up) than those for BCV/VWL.
 
I don't know if this has any validity to it but my guide and I have been teasing back and forth about the possibility of CRV for quite awhile. Eagerly trying to get him to slip if he knew about the vaildity of the rumour. And the last time we did....well he got a little serious for a second and insinuated that the next DVC, whatever that might be, might just have higher points and higher dues.

I don't know if he was leading me down a new "teasing trail". I have no idea about the dues. But I am thinking that the point spread might be higher. I'd put my money on that.

I still dream of an add-on. Whether we can afford it is another matter. But one has to dream.

The MK view is not the draw for me. I love the back of the CR. That WL/FW/CR triangle. Love it.
 
doubletrouble_vb said:
I think a DVC unit at the Contemporary would be much more likely to sport the highest point structure rather than a higher selling price than SSR. It would not surprise me to find out that Disney regrets not having had a higher point structure at BCV. If they had done it that way each time a DVC owner stayed at BCV more points would be sucked out of the system leaving more space available at other resorts for rental purposes or for letting members stay at popular times like Christmas. Since BCV seems to be running at high capacity that would have worked well in increasing opportunity for members at other resorts. It appears to me Disney did just this sort of thing when they established the point structures for SSR and in a way for BCV & VWL. SSR is a resort similar to OKW yet the "cost" for staying there is greater. BCV & VWL are similar to BWV yet there is no standard view available.

It wouldn't surprise me at all if the points for this rumored resort turned out to be 10% higher (and rounded up) than those for BCV/VWL.

ooooh...double trouble....great minds think alike!!!!!!!
 
lisaviolet said:
ooooh...double trouble....great minds think alike!!!!!!!

Yah... One thing I can't figure is why the maintenance would be any higher than for a BWV or BCV. Those resorts have the Friendship service as well as busses. Granted you would have monorail service, boat service and bus service but the Contemporary is already footing its share of the bill for the Resort monorail service...unless picking up a share of the monorail cost is the bartering chip to enable DVD to 1) demolition a part of and 2) build on to the Contemporary.

...Actually that makes a lot of sense if the garden wings aren't pulling their weight...make DVC pick up at least the amount that the North wing was supposed to contribute and maybe a percentage of what the South wing is supposed to deliver as well.

As for would I buy there? Mebbe... I could see picking up just enough points to reserve one or two weekday points at a given resort 11 months in advance and then using my VWL points to get the weekend day or days. I like the idea of something as simple as a monorail ride to EPCOT if I couldn't get into an EPCOT resort.
 
If this were to happen, I would be very, very tempted to buy at least 50-100 points at CRV. We'll have our SSR paid off this time next year. We'll probably add on somewhere at that time, maybe on our 2006 Christmas vacation or cruise. Hmmm...I don't suppose that they give great deals if you add on while on the boat...
 
Those interested in buying I would say start saving your money. ;)

As to our plans I don't see an addon in our future right now, but if we could get in once or twice at 7 months I would try it.

We like to experience all of what Disney offers and while we love the MK, if you stay there and use your car to visit other resorts for dining or other parts of Orlando it is hard to come and go.
 
To the person who asked if it is just a rumour at the moment - yet it is, as is the AKL one - but still it is a v interesting rumour.

You know, I've been wondering if they wouldn't demolish the garden wings, and make the new units tower like structures - obviously, with higher points needed for those facing the MK? They wouldn't use as much land if they were building upwards.
 
No we would not purchase additional points at the rumored DVC CR (VCR).

However if DVC is built at AKL we will add on in a big way.
 















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