Why think FP- system will be phased out?

[101disneyfan]

I think people who are staying offsite should still be able to use some sort of FastPass. Some people (myself included) simply can't afford to stay onsite. I scrimped and saved to get us APs because it made more sense financially for us, so I guess at some point I'll get FastPass + access but I still think some form of it should be available to everyone.

I'm sorry, FLSarah,

However, I think that if Disney made FP+ available to offsite guests, then it would be the most missed opportunity they could ever have. Maybe, like Universal, you could buy FP+ privileges, but if they just give it free to anyone walking through the theme parks, then I just see it as a missed opportunity to fill up those resort hotels.

Sorry.

 

[Angel Ariel]

However, I think that if Disney made FP+ available to offsite guests, then it would be the most missed opportunity they could ever have.

Disney said at the beginning of all of this that FP+ would be available to all who hold a ticket.

IMO, they'd alienate a decent number of people (the FL pass holders who don't stay on site) if they didn't offer FP+ to everyone eventually. I also think they'd alienate a bunch of people who have benefitted from FP for over a decade now - whether they were onsite or off - if Disney all of a sudden said those offsite no longer have any access.

I could see them offering more to those staying onsite than they do to those off, but I don't think they're going to shut out offsite guests completely.

 

[ArwenMarie]

I don't think they will shut everyone out of it, or even have a charge. I think they are going to play with the booking windows...that will be perk of staying onsite. Just my guess. So it will be a subtle advantage, but not an overwhelming one.

 

[FLSarah]

I'm sorry, FLSarah,

However, I think that if Disney made FP+ available to offsite guests, then it would be the most missed opportunity they could ever have. Maybe, like Universal, you could buy FP+ privileges, but if they just give it free to anyone walking through the theme parks, then I just see it as a missed opportunity to fill up those resort hotels.

Sorry.

I wouldn't have any problem if they made FP+ for resort guests only IF they kept paper FastPasses for everyone else. One of the reasons I never even looked into Universal is because of their handling of FP (or whatever their version is called). How they do it just doesn't seem right to me. But I understand that's it's probably a huge money maker for them and that the people who can afford/choose to purchase it probably enjoy it greatly.

No need to apologize. Everyone has different opinions and you stated yours very politely

 

[Robo]

I think that if Disney made FP+ available to offsite guests, then it would be the most missed opportunity they could ever have... then I just see it as a missed opportunity to fill up those resort hotels.

Disney has officially stated (one of the few things they HAVE stated officially) that FP+ will be available for all guests who visit the parks.

 

[Arsenal1982]

Disney has officially stated (one of the few things they HAVE stated officially) that FP+ will be available for all guests who visit the parks.

Did they say it would be free of charge for all guests who visit the parks?

 

[LSUfan4444]

Nope. I'd be shocked if they don't charge off-site guests for MBs.

 

[Robo]

Did they say it would be free of charge for all guests who visit the parks?

FP+...

Yes.

As I said, it's one of the few things they HAVE stated officially.

 

[Robo]

Nope. I'd be shocked if they don't charge off-site guests for MBs.

Yes. MagicBands will very likely (almost assuredly) be at extra charge for off-site guests.
(Unless there's some sort of special promotion going on.)

It's FP+ that will be free to all.

 

[JRawkSteady]

After being here for a week, we have seen That they are definitely trying to discourage those with FP+ from using the paper system. .

The minority of CMs have really said anything...not because the company told them to, but because they took it on themselves to have a strange righteous problem with it. Believe me, I know for a fact that the company has no problem using the paper system and FP+ at the same time.

 

[dansamy]

Robo and LSUfan are talking about two different things.

Disney has stated FP+ will be available for all ticket holders.

Resort guests and APholders will get a "free" MB.

Disney hasn't addressed MBs being available, for free or for a charge, for off-site guests.

 

[Robo]

Robo and LSUfan are talking about two different things.

Disney has stated FP+ will be available for all ticket holders.

Resort guests and APholders will get a "free" MB.

Disney hasn't addressed MBs being available, for free or for a charge, for off-site guests.

Yes.

With the roll-out and testing of so many new things at once, it's easy to get multiple and separate items and ideas confused.

A MagicBand is one thing.

FP+ is another thing.

Although they are associated in one or two ways (especially during this time of TESTING,)
they are actually two separate things, and can be obtained and used exclusive of each other.

You can use a MagicBand without FP+.
You can use FP+ without a MagicBand. (At least after the system is fully rolled out.)

 

[dansamy]

Yes.

With the roll-out and testing of so many new things at once, it's easy to get multiple and separate items and ideas confused.

Yup. I was typing while you were also posting your other posts. I'm on a phone, so I'm at a bit of a disadvantage!

 

[PEC]

Once FP+ is completely rolled out the only individuals that would need FP- is somebody that showed up that day and paid. My guess is with a kiosks these individuals could do their FP+ upon entrance. My gut tells me this is what will eventually happen. Though when I go it is a pre-planned trip I would kind of feel sorry for the person or family that just went for one day and not have any fast passes but I believe this is how it is going.

 

[LSUfan4444]

You can use FP+ without a MagicBand. (At least after the system is fully rolled out.)

If you won't need a MB for FP+, what would be the major incentive for an off-site guest to buy a MB? I know it can be linked to a CC for charging and photopass etc., but why pay extra for that?

I wasn't confusing the two, but rather thinking Disney would charge for the MB so the off-site guest could use that MB for FP+. Essentially, charging for FP.

I had not seen them say MBs would not be needed to access FP+ after the roll out.

 

[jtowntoflorida]

If you won't need a MB for FP+, what would be the major incentive for an off-site guest to buy a MB? I know it can be linked to a CC for charging and photopass etc., but why pay extra for that?

They're being sold on eBay. People have paid to stay in a testing resort for a night just to get the bands. People who are getting them for free are spending money on "bling" for them because being able to pick the color and personalize with a name just isn't enough. They're a Shiny New Thing and people like Shiny New Things. Of course people will pay for them. Maybe not you, but many people will.

 

[Robo]

If you won't need a MB for FP+, what would be the major incentive for an off-site guest to buy a MB? I know it can be linked to a CC for charging and photopass etc., but why pay extra for that?

I wasn't confusing the two, but rather thinking Disney would charge for the MB so the off-site guest could use that MB for FP+. Essentially, charging for FP.

I had not seen them say MBs would not be needed to access FP+ after the roll out.

RFID tickets can access FP+.

After testing, guests may be able to make FP+ reservations on MDE
if they have a valid ticket.

 

[LSUfan4444]

They're being sold on eBay. People have paid to stay in a testing resort for a night just to get the bands. People who are getting them for free are spending money on "bling" for them because being able to pick the color and personalize with a name just isn't enough. They're a Shiny New Thing and people like Shiny New Things. Of course people will pay for them. Maybe not you, but many people will.

Now they are a great value because without them, you cannot make FP+ reservations and with them, it makes "double dipping" that much easier (unless you kept an oder expired KTTW that had tickets attached).

RFID tickets can access FP+.

Yes, now they can. Where did Disney say after MBs are officially rolled out that they will continue to be able to do so? That's what I was looking for, I hadn't seen that.

After testing guests will be able to make FP+ reservations on MDE
if they have a valid ticket.

I'm not saying you're wrong, I was just asking to read the same info?

I know that after testing completes any tickets linked to MDE can make FP+ reservations up to 60 days in advance, what I had not seen is that those guests can access those FPs without having MBs.

 

[Cafeen]

what I had not seen is that those guests can access those FPs without having MBs.

MagicBands and cards are all-in-one devices that serve as your ticket, room key and more. With a MagicBand on your wrist or a card in your pocket, youll travel lighter throughout your vacation. With the introduction of FastPass+, your MagicBand or card will even allow you to check in at FastPass+ locations.

Touch-enabled cards are available now. MagicBands are currently being tested and will be available in the coming months.

Disney magic has never been more seamless.

Use your card or MagicBand to:
Unlock the door of your Disney Resort hotel room.
Enter theme and water parks (with valid theme park admission).

Later this year, youll also be able to use your card or MagicBand to:
Check in at FastPass+ entrances (with the introduction of FastPass+).
Connect Disney PhotoPass images to your account.

-Source-

That's the official documentation, though I'm sure I've heard it from other announcements and posts.
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The difference, and what may drive off-site guests to purchase bands would be the interactive elements that are (will be) available via the active RFID tech within the bands opposed to the passive RFID tech located in the KTTW cards. This is the stuff like parade characters knowing your name, etc. Whether the cost of the MB is worth those experience or not is a very subjective thing (especially since we have no knowledge of what these things will be, nor the extent to which they'll be implemented throughout WDW.)

 

[Farps]

If you go onto The official Disney site, go to the bottom of the page on the right hand side under Learn about, click fast pass plus. You can watch the video that states that you can use fast pass + by making your choices on line and using Magic bands or your cards.