Who else would appreciate a pet-friendly DVC property?

[ncligs]

Originally posted by gdulaney
Please don't flame me...but I really need to stomp my feet and jump up and down for just a second.

 

[buzz5985]

[/QUOTE] Just for your info....there aren't "several one site kennels", but just two...one located at the ticket/transportation center and the other one at the Fort Wilderness campgrounds. Although, I don't know if you all are aware the kennels do not 100% take care of your pets. You

This is untrue. My Dog, Bonnie, poodle/terrier mix, aged 11 LOL, stayed at the AK kennel (we were at ASMo and AKL) It is an overnight kennel. The next time you are at AK, before you get to the ticket counters, look to the right. You will see bathrooms, and the kennel. The trouble with Disneys kennels are that they do not feed or walk your animal. You are responsible. Which was fine with us, and we also watered all the other animals there. At the time AK was open 9 - 5. When the park was closed we would drive through the gates over to the handicap spaces and the kennel was right there on the right. We would find a security guard and we would sign out Bonnie and take her for a walk around the outskirts of the parking lot. If you didn't have ID - they wouldn't let you take the animal. The only time it was inconvenient for us was when we were at MK, so only one of us would go, instead of the family. It was explained to us that all the kennels are this way.

 

[spiceycat]

I like the one at EPcot and FW - Spicey has been going to WDW since he was 3 months old now he is 18 years. He likes the kennels at WDW or I won't kept him there.

FW is really great for walking area - Epcot is not bad either.

I don't like AK or Studios because of the lack of walking areas.

Spicey recently stayed at Universal's Royal Pacific Resort at US/IOA - he loved it!!! At first he had some problems - he had never been in a 4 star resort before and was a little nervous. but within 2 hours he really start to enjoy himself. This resort when you are in your room is very quiet. (a plus for cats). When you check in - the front desk tells you the rules and gives you a copy - plus they give you a pager than works all over the resort and the parks - they will page you if your pet is causing a disturbance. Now it says that you are not to leave your pet in the room without you being there - but they also give you the pager.

Spicey had a wonderful time and I will definitely go back - probably on a Fri/Sat to avoid the higher points at DVC. He really enjoyed the attention - I have a very strange cat - alot of the other guests would stop and pet him. If any person looked even the least bit afraid I would pick him up until we had passed that person.

the rules that Loews hotels (us/ioa) make it very plain what they expect of you and your pet. I didn't see anyone breaking these rules.

Now flying - he has flown but only on those Airlines that don't consider him luggage - so that means here NorthWest - Southwest won't fly him, Delta and United says he was luggage.

I have been asking DVC for at least a kennel on OKW property - so far they have not answer any of my request - they won't even say no.

FW used to be able to handle a sick animal - but now it just has 1 person there at all times. So I would take a sick animal to Epcot - they have several people all the times. They will walk your animal for your for a fee($2.50 per walk per day). the overnight charge for all the WDW kennels is $9 per night for on-site guest - $11 per night if you are not staying in a WDW resort.

the cages are all sizes - they have some very big cages for the big dogs (problem is they put the little dogs in these cages). they are considering making the cats cages bigger - but at present this has not done.

Spicey use to be one of several cats - no longer - most of the time he is the only cat there. He goes on walks - so I don't mind him being in the kennel - now if he wasn't lease trained I would not take him.

I have had pet sitters (one of which lost one of my cats) - so I am not too fond of them. I have my friends and family sit with my cats,too. Spicey goes with me - but Star and Stormy,who don't like to travel and probably won't, - still need someone to come by.

the WDW kennel needs more animals - or they might close them and then where will we animals lovers be?

take your pet to the WDW kennel - if you don't like the person at check in - take it to another kennel - there are 5 of them - AK, Studio, Epcot, T/T and FW. all have overnight stays.

oh I don't like the T/T because of where it is located - very noisy - not a good location for walking a cat. the main bus terminal is behind it.

 

[Pa@okw95]

Keep your pets in the kennel!! I would like to see some children kept there also but I don't think that will ever happen.

 

[KNWVIKING]

At least not for $9.00 per nite.

 

[KNWVIKING]

At least not for $9.00 per nite.

 

[jmminarik]

Originally posted by ncligs
Thats what smokers

thought in California .......and in N.Y. restraunts and bars.

And lets hope people don't get shot when confronting guests who have snuck pets into a room.

As pet keepers, we'd like to see more pet friendly (of all sizes, not just toys) accomodations....makes driving back to Iowa much more bearable if we can stop for the night. But, we'd vote against pet friendly DVC. The system in place has enough problems with the limited number of rules they have...adding another resort with all sorts of pet rules would just mean more rules to be broken and more ranting by the 'good' pet keepers and the non-pet keepers alike.

While our two boys are miserable without us at home, they'd be much happier visiting kennel camp than spending 20 hours in the truck each way and then long hours by themselves in a strange room. Their kennel camp features nice long runs, 1/2 inside 1/2 outside with a/c and heat. They can bark at all of the rich pedigree dogs. They can stay near one another and get their own blankets...and they get baths before they come home.

I don't think Disney's kennels can compare....everyone keeps mentioning cages that would probably remind our two of the cages they were in at the shelter from which we adopted them. Well, they remind us of them.

Besides, part of our vacation is not having to worry about taking care of the boys, and being able to spread out in a king size bed is simply luxurious.

Joe
(resisting the urge to rant about feel-good legislation).

 

[sumessefui]

Since Disney always looks at any angle they can to make a buck, I am sure they they have considered pet friendly hotels. Evedently they have rejected the idea or there would be a pet friendly hotel after all these years. So I don't think it will ever happen.

 

[d-r]

This past Jan., over MLK weekend, we were told at BWV that epcot, mgm, and AK no longer board over night, that over night boarding was only at MK and FtW. They even called to double check that with someone. Whether that was a low-season thing (Jan.) or a more permanent cutback, I don't know. We were interested in MGM because of the proximity.

FWIW, YMMV.

DR

 

[TIdoublegaER]

I have been asking DVC for at least a kennel on OKW property - so far they have not answer any of my request - they won't even say no

I do like this idea. I don't even think it needs to necessarily be on OKW property, but close by. Plus with the addition of SSR, this could be a shared facility.

I would like to see some children kept there also but I don't think that will ever happen.

Hey, if they put kennels over by OKW, I would consider this for my kids! (I'm totally kidding BTW)

 

[d-r]

Pets are allowed to stay with their owners at Ft Wliderness for about $3 per day (not sure if this includes the cabins). They must be on a leash and be kennelled if their owners leave the campsite.

I think this is only for the RV areas. I agree with Doc that there are many options, from boarding your pet at the disney kennels to staying at one of several off-site hotels (including hard rock) that allow animals. I also think that you could rent an RV and stay at ft.w. If someone really wanted to take their pet on vacation they could do so quite easily. But if they did add a pet section, it would be a nice alternative. I also like the idea of a DVC kennel, if it could be economically self-sufficient. WL to Ft.W or ttc for that matter is not a bad choice at all. There are limits to where you can walk them, though, which is probably a good thing, ultimately. It would be nice if you could walk on the trail between ft.w and wl, even if muzzled, but I am sure that there would be someone who wouldn't pick up after their pet (having a great dane, you forget that people don't do this, because you always do....if you didn't, anybody would know just by looking whose dog left that!)
DR

 

[Maistre Gracey]

I have read the posts about a seperate DVC that allows pets, where you can specifically buy into that resort. At first this made a lot of sense. I then started thinking about the members who would switch at the 7 month window, or trade there points for something else. These members would be giving points at a 'pet friendly' DVC. If nobody wanted one of these rooms, would it not throw the whole balance and trade equation out the window???

Just curious.....

 

[spiceycat]

Disney at the 60 day window declares all DVC resorts that are unrented its and tries to rent them through CRO - it is in your contract - so I don't think this would change anything.

 

[Maistre Gracey]

Originally posted by spiceycat
Disney at the 60 day window declares all DVC resorts that are unrented its and tries to rent them through CRO - it is in your contract - so I don't think this would change anything.

Yes indeed, this is my point. Members may not want to trade for them, then they go for rent through CRO. I think less people would want to book a 'pet friendly' room because of the pet dander, or cat spray ect...
These rooms could go empty (more often than non-pet rooms), and throw things out of kilter.

 

[CarolMN]

Originally posted by Maistre Gracey
Yes indeed, this is my point. Members may not want to trade for them, then they go for rent through CRO. I think less people would want to book a 'pet friendly' room because of the pet dander, or cat spray ect...
These rooms could go empty (more often than non-pet rooms), and throw things out of kilter.

Assuming that a significant number of DVC members would NOT want to stay in the pet friendly DVC, using the 11 and 7 month windows could become even more important than they are today. IMHO, any "imbalance" would impact most on those who book their DVC rooms on relatively short notice. These are the members who are the most likely to lose their points if they are not willing to stay in the "pet rooms".

FWIW, I think this discussion is pretty much just for fun. I don't believe there will ever be a DVC that allows pets to stay in the rooms (except for service animals). IMHO, if Disney thought there was more money to be made with a pet friendly DVC than in their other "money-making opportunities", it would already be done!

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

and in N.Y. restraunts and bars.

It is only in NY City, Nick.

 

[ncligs]

Originally posted by GAIL HAYDEN
It is only in NY City, Nick.

Thanks Gail, but thats what I meant(N.Y. City). I knew a

topic would draw you in.

 

[GAIL HAYDEN]

Actually, Nick, this topic is very interesting without the stupid smoking comparison.
I have two cats and one dog and we have people come in and take care of them. They are relaxed and happy at home, we are relaxed and happy knowing we don't need to worry about them destroying something that someone else will have to use after we leave or being upset that we have brought them to a strange place and left them. Everyone's pets are perfect angels and would never destroy or cause havoc anywhere, they never ever bark and are definitely parasite free.....NOT!!!! My dog barks when he hears strange noises, I imagine at DVC he would bark a lot, I would not subject anyone to that, my cats are very moody, they don't scratch, but, one could bite. Why would I subject a housekeeper to that?
I love my pets and I love animals in general, but, I don't want to vacation with my pets or other peoples' pets. I also do not want to be bitten by fleas, I am allergic to their bites, my pets are flea free and I would not want to bring them home. I detest pet odors, I don't want to smell them on vacation anymore than I want to smell them at home.
When I signed on at DVC I was assured that it was pet free, except for service animals, there were no kennels at DVC and there would not be. That immediately quelled any thoughts of bring my pets with me. If I did not like that rule when I signed up, I simply did not have to. I did love the rule and hope it stays that way, forever.

 

[d-r]

understanding that ADA approved service animals are welcome.

just fyi, i was wondering what ada certification entails, and i learned something i didn't know:

Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) prohibits places of public accommodation from requiring proof of certification of a service animal/service dog's training. There are similar provisions in other federal laws that apply to commercial air travel, state and local governmental agencies, including public transportation, and other entities.

i also found here
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/foia/al3.txt
that one is not required to document their disability, but are required to identify the animal as a service animal if asked.

http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/qasrvc.htm
here is another link-
http://www.access-able.com/tips/service.htm

a little more info-
"In 1990, with the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), DOJ expanded the concept of service animals to include those providing a service for individuals with other disabilities. Service animals are defined in 28 CFR 36.104 as, "any guide dog, signal dog, or other animal individually trained to do work or perform tasks for the benefit of an individual with a disability, including, but not limited to, guiding individuals with impaired vision, alerting individuals with impaired hearing to intruders or sounds, providing minimal protection or rescue work, pulling a wheelchair, or fetching dropped items." Section 36.302 states that entities, "shall modify policies, practices, or procedures to permit the use of a service animal by an individual with a disability."

Section 36.104 also defines an individual with a disability as an individual with a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more of the major life activities of caring for one's self, performing manual tasks, walking, seeing, hearing, speaking, breathing, learning, and working.

 

[TDC Nala]

I don't think I'd mind there being one, if:

1) It's the entire resort and that resort is separate from other resorts (I mean, standing on its own like OKW and not attached to another hotel like BWV or BCV or VWL). And not too close to the parks! I am imagining dog-walking occurring all over the Boardwalk and all the way down to the Internation Gateway...no way...they need a nice dog-walking path with trees and things to sniff.

2) I never have to stay there.

By the way, once I was checking into AKL and the person doing the checkin said they'd been spending the morning trying to catch someone's cat - the cat had been smuggled in and ran out when the housekeeper opened the door, scared the housekeeper to death. A bit more than advertised at AKL - usually the critters don't come inside.