Who else would appreciate a pet-friendly DVC property?

Originally posted by bliss4us
I love my dogs like other people love their children...

But I wouldn't want to stay in a hotel with them.

As much as I love my babies, they would be in an unfamiliar place with an unfamiliar routine. And as conscientious as I might be about taking care of them, there's still a good chance one of them is going to whip up a batch of biscuits on the carpet at least once.

I don't think I'd want to stay in a pet-friendly DVC resort, but maybe everyone else's pets are better behaved than mine.

And if someone else wanted to stay in one, hey, that's a-okay by me.

Daisy;)


don't you stay with your dogs in a hotel roomwhenyou take non-disneytrips? I mean like holidays or trips to see your family or whatever?

DR
 
Our dog stays at home or at the vets. We just found a new vet with a much better setup for our dog. She doesn't like traveling and would much rather stay at home.

For those of you who would want to take your dog - what would you do with your pet while you were in the parks? Would you want to take them along? Or leave them in an unfamiliar place where strange people might come in while you weren't there (housekeepers, maintenance, etc.). Or would you put them in the kennel for the day?
 
I would not like to bring my dog into a park with me - too much stimulation. Its hard to say if I would kennel him - he's a Great Dane and most places don't have kennels that big - or leave him in the room. We've never actually kenneled him before - always a dog sitter if he has to stay home. Either way we would take breaks often to get him out for a walk and explore. The reasons we have always wanted to bring Boomhauer with us are to go for walks outside of the parks.

As far as people coming into the room - this would have to be one of the addressed provisions of the specific resort. Make sure it was noted with front desk and marked outside the door. As DVC has limited housekeeping anyway - making sure you were out when then came in shouldn't be a problem.

I wish/hope that there would be a greater demand for it, but it would be a large undertaking.

Melissa
 
"Our dog stays at home or at the vets"

When we go to wdw or something like that Boom stays at home with our vet's assistant house-setting him. It is just wild to me that you haven't had some sort of last minute family thing pop up ever where you had to take your dog - I guess if I think about it we live a long way from our family though and have people spread all over.

If we did take Boom to wdw, and I don't know if we would, it is a long way from Michigan, and we don't drive and I wouldn't want to fly him in cargo, but if for some reason we did, I think that I would probably kennel him at the ttc during the day. They have several large partially outside kennels there. But you have to remember that we aren't dawn til dusk commandos or anthing, so we'd probably just kennel him from lunch time till dinner time and be OK with being out that much of the day. But I know we don't do wdw like a lot of folks.

DR
 

Originally posted by Dean
Yes and no. Smoking does not cause allergies and while the irritants are difficult to get rid of, not nearly no much as pet dander which CAN and does cause allergies. It takes a whole year to get rid of cat dander even if you wash the walls and treat the carpet and furniture. I would have no problem with having a pet section but it would have to be a hard line for anyone visiting and reserved directly much like a handicapped room, not just requested.

Could you please tell my lungs and nasal linings not to seize up when I smell the slightest whiff of smoke, then? : ) A lot of people are "allergic" to smoke.

As for pets, one sure way to fill empty rooms is to allow pets. and advertise the fact. Lowes does this, as do many lower end hotels and motels. I have three dogs and one of them is small enough to travel and stay in a crate in a hotel room with no problems. I've stayed at $1 million plus beach homes with expensive furniture that allowed my dog, usually paying a small fee and extra deposit, with no problems. So I'm guessing Disney can handle them in a tiny hotel room or even a 2br villa if they wanted to. It's not like those carpets and bed sheets don't get kiddie vomit and other spills on em already.

If Disney wanted to, they could easily accomodate pet owners with rules like:

1. Pets would be accomodated in seperate "pet friendly" buildings, and not allowed in the rest of the resort. Someplace like Old Key West could handle this with few changes.

2. Your pet damages it, you pay for it. A suitable deposit would be needed, and I would gladly pay a $20/night or so pet fee. Hardly a big expense on an expensive vacation, and pet sitters cost money too.

3. Your dog barks, someone complains, its' verified by Disney staff, then he goes to a kennel or you leave immediately. (actually I don't recall ever being bothered by a dog in any pet friendly hotel I've stayed at, but I'm sure it happens). Then again, screaming kids or drunken revelers are much more likely to be a problem, there being many more of them. It's just like any hotel. If something in your room is causing a disturbance, you're not going to be allowed to stay if you can't put an end to it.

4. Health certificate and proof of flea program for the pet required before you check in.

5. Reasonable weight limits.

6. Require guest to sign a disclaimer aknowledging he understands the rules and that no barking dogs are allowed, etc.

7. Suitable area for dogs "makin' biscuits" and you're required to clean it up.

So, if you don't like to sleep in a place that's had a dog in it, you don't have to, and if you want to bring your pet, you risk having to deal with that and other potential problems. Sounds reasonable to me!

I'd rather stay at Disney, but I may spend the first weekend of June at Universal instead just so I don't have to make other arrangements for my little dog.
 
Originally posted by chrissyk
My DH and I were just talking about this, as we are having to cancel our upcoming May DVC trip due to the lack of a pet-sitter :( How many DVC owners would appreciate a pet-friendly DVC property? I don't mean that every DVC property would have to be pet-friendly, but if one of them were, would you be able to travel to Disney more frequently or would you even buy more DVC points? We have a pet who has a life-threatening illness. We can't just have someone come in and feed him while we're away, unfortunately :( We have to bring him to our pet-sitter's house, and unfortunately, our pet-sitter is in the midst of an unexpected move right now. We can't board him in a kennel, either. We can't even leave him with our vet! We are seriously considering renting out our DVC points for the forseeable future and staying at one of the 3 on-site Universal hotels (all pet friendly!) or the Marriott Renissance across from Sea World (also pet-friendly) on future Orlando trips. Disney will be losing our dining dollars and probably our pass-holding dollars in the future because of this. Are we the only DVC members who would appreciate a pet-friendly DVC property?

You might want to call around or check the web for "in-home" pet sitters who specialize in taking care of special dogs in their own homes, treating it like one of the family. There are some in most every big city. My wife and I dabble in doing this as a sideline business. The going rate is $25-$35 a night, depending on the area and the pet's needs. I can guarantee you our "guests" get treated better than most dogs do at home. People do this because they love pets, so you're unlikely to have a bad situation.
 
MelissathePooh -

We have a Great Dane as well, and honestly, I can't imagine traveling all the way to FL with him and the kids!! He takes up an entire bench in the van by himself!

We don't kennel him while we are gone, no one has a kennel large enough, so we either have Critter Sitters come in or family who lives close by come over.

My mom just got a new puppy and is hoping for a trade - she'll keep Zeus at her house while we are on vacation if we keep Magic while they are. Works for me!

I'm not against hotels/motels/resorts that allow pets, but I wouldn't want to pay increased dues for DVC to allow pets, even in only certain rooms. Just like smoking in non-smoking rooms, who's going to make sure no one "sneaks" their pet in to non-pet rooms. Obviously, we couldn't "sneak" ours in, but smaller cats/dogs could be.
 
Yeah - Boom takes up the back of our Montero Sport with the seat down! I don't know how a drive to FL would be - he makes the trip to TN at least once a year from MI so we'd just have to break it up I guess if we ever do it.

As far as dues increasing - I woudn't want that either unless it were a new resort where people had the option of owning there.

As far as sneaking in - you're right doesn't work of us, but I'm sure people would be surprized how often it happens! We saw a small dog being walked one day at the Swan - and it was not a service dog. A CM at BWV asked my mother if she just wanted to keep Molly there with her (Molly is a mini yorkie) My mother said no and put her at FW Kennels, but the CM was serious.

I have a friend in NYC who has a Boston Terrier - Cartier uses "wee-wee" pads for the potty and essentially never goes out. She's kind of like a cat dog! With a dog like that no one would ever know - and there are a lot of those dogs out there!

I often wonder what it would be like to have a smaller dog, but I don't know what I'd do with the extra space in the bed!

Melissa
 
In theory I partially agree with your opinion but:


"1. Pets would be accomodated in seperate "pet friendly" buildings,"

I'm not HC'ed,but if the only room left for me is an HC unit,I can deal with it.But if the only thing availible is pet, then I can't accept it.

"2. Your pet damages it, you pay for it."

MY DOG DIDN'T DO THAT !! PROVE MY DOG DID IT, THEN I'LL PAY FOR IT. Are you willing to go thru and extensive check-in/check-out , witnessed inspection of the room ?


"3. Your dog barks, someone complains, its' verified by Disney staff,"

I'm sorry,but Disney won't deal with rude guest stomping around all hours of the night,disturbing the people below them. Do we really believe they will handle a dog noise complaint ?

" 4. Health certificate and proof of flea program for the pet required before you check in."

Does a "proof of flea program" guarantee no fleas ? No.

" 5. Reasonable weight limits."

Define reasonable. Or better yet, at what age do or size do a set of parents and three "young" children constitute 5 in a one bedroom? People will do whatever DVC lets them get away with.

" 6. Require guest to sign a disclaimer aknowledging he understands the rules and that no barking dogs are allowed, etc. "

Well, didn't we all sorta do that when we signed our DVC contracts at purchase ? Everybody on this board has an opinion of what the rules "really" mean and DVC makes no effort to clarify the gray areas anyway. Same thing would happen with a dog owner disclaimer. Do we think DVC would really enforce a no barking clause. Oh I can't wait to read that thread if it were to ever happen. How dare Disney say my dog was barking !

" 7. Suitable area for dogs "makin' biscuits" and you're required to clean it up. "

My favorite. Have you seen the hallways at BCV or VWL. People won't even take their trash to the proper disposal area.


I'm sorry, I guess I just don't trust people to be good neighbors or citizens.
 
Originally posted by DaveH
Yes knowing a hotel is pet friendly...ie a pet may have been in a room would keep us from going to that hotel.

When I am looking for hotels, if I see a hotel that allows pets, it automatically gets crossed off my list. No allergies or anything(we have a cat), but just..no thanks, I'll stay somewhere else.
 
I remember a post about guests leaving garbage outside of the thier rooms and have seen it myself too often. Imagine the guests leaving thier pets presents bagged in the hallways!

Seriously though, I would not be one to raise my hand to have any DVC resort rooms "pet friendly" other than pets necessary for disabilities as it is by law.
 
I have always had family watch my Louie who is a dobe/dane

(an exact real life likeness to Disneys Goofy) But I miss him sooooo much when we go away. It would be a very long drive, and somewhat of an adventure traveling so far with the dog, but I think it would really feel like home having Louie with us.
Felicia
 
we'd love to bring our malevolent little Jack Russell terrier with us to WDW

We've vacationed on Cape Cod and in Maine and brought her with us, with no problems

Of course, there'd have to be rules about taking care of the facilities...
 
Originally posted by brucec32
Could you please tell my lungs and nasal linings not to seize up when I smell the slightest whiff of smoke, then? : ) A lot of people are "allergic" to smoke.
I'd love to, maybe it'll even work. I don't trivialize your health problems but the medical problems with cigarette smoke are not allergic, cig smoke is an irritant but not an allergen. It's no different than those that sneeze 20 times with perfume, cleaning agents, etc.; those are not allergens but can still cause health problems. The point was that it would be much easier to get the room back into shape after cigarette exposure than pet exposure, esp. cats. I'm a malignant non smoker and as I've stated previously, I'd rather not go to WDW than get a smoking room.
 
Chryssyk-you should attach a poll to this thread. I would love to see what the breakdown is. Great question.
 
I was just doing a search for a hotel for my Mother in the Boston area. I noticed all the 5 star hotels are "pet" friendly.

Those who have used points to stay at the concierge level Boston Harbor Hotel - you stayed at a pet friendly hotel. Now this is just off the top of my head without looking anything up - but I think the Boston Harbor Hotel takes 60-70 points per night.
 
Originally posted by Tinkrbell
Chryssyk-you should attach a poll to this thread. I would love to see what the breakdown is. Great question.

Why bother......even if it was 99% for pets at DVC resorts......it will never happen.I think the poll would prove just the opposite.......DVC members wouldn't want it.
 
Our two boys are allergic to many shedding animals so we only have a poodle and tropical fish. There are some homes where shedding animals live, that they are able to spend an entire night without a problem, just by staying away from the animals. At other homes, their asthma is triggered just by being inside the house (not even seeing the pet in the room). If you have ever seen people experience a severe health crisis from asthma, you would understand the seriousness of it.

One December, one of our sons made the mistake of petting a West Highland Terrier (supposedly low allergy) and forgetting to wash thoroughly afterward. Within an hour, his asthma was triggered. If I wasn't an RN with Pediatric ICU & ER experience, our pediatrician would have had him admitted to the hospital Christmas eve. He relied on my ability to recognize whether the asthma was getting worse (and we would then go to the ER) or whether it could be managed at home through the holiday. It was pretty bad, I can assure you.

If this had happened while on vacation because we had been given a room where a pet had stayed, there is no question that he would have been in the hospital. Putting pet allergies in the same category as smoking sensitivity (after the smoker has left and it's just a very annoying residual odor) is a mistake.

Where hotels permit pets, they normally have a group of rooms that allow them, and no more. It's sometimes a separate corridor. If those remain vacant due to guests choosing not to stay in a pet-friendly room, the hotel accepts that loss as part of their cost of offering the option. And guests may be told that the pet-friendly rooms are the only ones available - take it or leave it.

However, with a timeshare resort, how can owners be told this? They would have to know ahead of purchase that this was a possibility. For our family, we would never purchase nor exchange into such a resort. It certainly could not be a casual change that an existing resort could make without the vote of their exisiting owners.

FWIW, my mom used to travel with her two poodles and stay in hotels, mostly Holiday Inns. She was not allergic to other pets (my sis was, but was not traveling with her). Anyway, Mom used to laugh about the way that the whole hallway would start barking whenever anyone was coming or going. One dog would bark at the sound of a door unlocking and the rest would join in. She said she removed her hearing aid at night and couldn't imagine what the rest of the guests would do! She also observed many careless guests who did not curb their pets properly and she was bothered by odors in the hallways, presumably due to pets messing while their owners were away. Yuck. :(
 
I would think there would be increased liability insurance for Disney (higher insurance costs) for dogs being allowed. I work for an insurance company and if you have a dog and my company knows it, you pay higher Homeowners insurance rates. You'd be surprised how many claims come through regarding dogs (who have never been aggressive before) attacking small children. I wouldn't want the increased insurance rates, nor the increased upkeep for wear and tear caused by dogs.

I'd sell my points if Disney allowed it.
 
Originally posted by KNWVIKING
In theory I partially agree with your opinion but:


"1. Pets would be accomodated in seperate "pet friendly" buildings,"

I'm not HC'ed,but if the only room left for me is an HC unit,I can deal with it.But if the only thing availible is pet, then I can't accept it.

"2. Your pet damages it, you pay for it."

MY DOG DIDN'T DO THAT !! PROVE MY DOG DID IT, THEN I'LL PAY FOR IT. Are you willing to go thru and extensive check-in/check-out , witnessed inspection of the room ?


"3. Your dog barks, someone complains, its' verified by Disney staff,"

I'm sorry,but Disney won't deal with rude guest stomping around all hours of the night,disturbing the people below them. Do we really believe they will handle a dog noise complaint ?

" 4. Health certificate and proof of flea program for the pet required before you check in."

Does a "proof of flea program" guarantee no fleas ? No.

" 5. Reasonable weight limits."

Define reasonable. Or better yet, at what age do or size do a set of parents and three "young" children constitute 5 in a one bedroom? People will do whatever DVC lets them get away with.

" 6. Require guest to sign a disclaimer aknowledging he understands the rules and that no barking dogs are allowed, etc. "

Well, didn't we all sorta do that when we signed our DVC contracts at purchase ? Everybody on this board has an opinion of what the rules "really" mean and DVC makes no effort to clarify the gray areas anyway. Same thing would happen with a dog owner disclaimer. Do we think DVC would really enforce a no barking clause. Oh I can't wait to read that thread if it were to ever happen. How dare Disney say my dog was barking !

" 7. Suitable area for dogs "makin' biscuits" and you're required to clean it up. "

My favorite. Have you seen the hallways at BCV or VWL. People won't even take their trash to the proper disposal area.


I'm sorry, I guess I just don't trust people to be good neighbors or citizens.

Hey, it's been working at other places for years now.

But let me address your points one by one:

1. You won't have to worry about accepting a pet unit. Because they will be FULL anyway. The idea is that there would be fewer pet rooms than demand for them. I bet they would be the very first ones reserved at any time. So it's doubtfull you would ever have to worry about one being the only thing left. Do a yahoo search for "travel pets" and you'll find articles on how big a thing this is becoming.

2. You're subject to paying for damages at just about any hotel already. That's one reason they want your tag number, ID, and usually a credit card. They've been collecting damages at hotels for a long time. And again, thousands of hotels/motels are already doing this. And again, let me point out that I suggested charging a pet fee to cover the costs of extra cleaning and even minor damage. Ceramic tile flooring would solve the carpet problem, if that was important. Leather/vinyl chair seating surfaces eliminate hair on the furniture.

3. So you're saying that Disney doesn't handle noise complaints? I don't have any experience with that kind of problem. But ok, just add a barking dog to the list of noises then. But if you're going to assume my list of "requirements" isn't enforced, then of course it won't work. The assumption is that Disney makes rules and sticks to them.

4. No, it doesn't guarantee no fleas, but it goes a long ways towards it. My friend is a vet and told me that some vets have gotten into a lot of trouble by issuing health certifications without actually checking to see if they're free of fleas and on a program. The time limit for the certification is usually 10-14 days. So I guess a dog could go off its flea medicine and pick them up sometime in the 10 days before the trip, but isn't that unlikely? And once again, remember I said that anyone staying in the "pet section" takes on the risk of rooms with pet "problems". And again, I've stayed in half a dozen "pet friendly" condos, hotels, and rental homes, and I've never had a single problem with fleas. A $5 fogger solves the problem, anyway. And people who take pets on vacations with them usually treat them better than some people treat their children. They're not likely to be flea bags. Most will be pampered indoor dogs. I have three dogs and haven't seen a flea in over 5 years at this house. Where there's a will, there's a way to solve most problems.

5. Ok, I hereby define "reasonable" as 30 lbs. Ok? This of course means some people will bring Fido weighing 40, but that's just life. It hardly matters much if it's 30 or 50. The idea is not to have a great dane tipping over furniture in the room and rubbing the paint off the wall as it pads around. And again, as is already practiced all over the place, you're subject to being evicted with no refund of your rental fees if you violate the terms by bringing in a bigger pet. Haven't you ever rented a condo at the beach? They're all like this. You lie to them and get caught, you lose bigtime. Besides, couldn't they just check your dog out when you check in?

6. Disney determines the rules. They determine who's breaking them. Very simple.

7. Yes, but Disney doesn't eject them for leaving trash in the hallway. But it won't be a big problem. Not everyone is completely irresponsible. You just gotta have more faith in people. And this is coming from someone who hates crowds and the behavior crowds seem to bring out in folks. So fence in an area around the "pet building" where no pet can leave and so what if there's the rare poop pile on the grass?

Hotels, condos, motels, thousands of em all over the country already allow pets. From what I'm reading, their managers are saying it helps attract travelers in a slow market. Sometimes yes, there could be a problem. But if you read carefully, I didn't suggest putting pets in with regular guests. So just how loud does a dog have to bark to bother you in a sealed room 150 yards away in another building? If I want to bring my pet, I can either play by their terms and deal with less than perfection, or leave Fido at home and stay away from the pets and their poo. Choice is always good. I vote for more choice.
 















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