Paid Time Off

[bcla]

No. Well, ‘on paper’ I suppose you could say as it’s tracked in the payroll system. But it’s not something I’d get paid out for, it’s not that kind of arrangement.

It’s tricky in California, as at least one court ruled that an unofficial “unlimited” system might still come with an obligation to pay out PTO at the end of an exempt employee's employment. The general idea was that it wasn’t really unlimited in practice due to managers’ requests, but could also be used in order to get around accrued PTO as a financial liability in opposition to state employment law.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar_...EF+Intercultural+Foundation&hl=en&as_sdt=2006​

The record thus supports a finding that EF's paid time off policy had an implied "cap" and was by no means "unlimited." As the trial court said, an employer cannot avoid section 227.3 by leaving the amount of vacation time undefined in its policy while impliedly limiting the time actually available for approval.​

The reference is the the California Labor Code section that says accrued vacation time must be paid out upon termination of employment,

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?sectionNum=227.3.&lawCode=LAB

 

[bcla]

My current employer basically tells employees who come in visible sick that they are given sick days to use them when they are sick and to go home. Of course there is always going to be a someone who will call out when they aren't sick. It is hard to completely stop that.

I remember when I had my first full time job, my dad gave me a bit of advice. It was to show up for work when sick, just to show my employer how dedicated I was to the job. But in practice they always told me to leave if I might be infectious. But my dad said to ignore it. I stayed at home and it frankly was never an issue.

 

[easyas123]

It’s tricky in California,

Luckily we aren’t in CA, but I’m familiar with/ some of the more stringent regulations as a few of the Companies in our Captive are from there. Speaking with them at our mtgs is eye opening at times.
I don’t have concerns over payout for PTO, limited or unlimited or rolled over as it applies to me. But I recognize that most do and it’s an important benefit. We don’t allow for more than 7 days to rollover, but will payout anything beyond that on the last pay period of the year.