What do you do with people that cut in line to meet up with group?

[AndreaA]

Yep if it is no big deal then why dont you(general you) move back to where your family is vs plowing through the line. You wont mind waiting a few extra minutes will ya? I mean you are telling me it shouldnt matter if I wait, but it is not ok for your family

Do you seriously not understand the difference between you waiting an extra two minutes and someone waaaay in front of you having to wait thirty minutes extra for their husband or wife or son or daughter to finally reach them after being blocked by a bunch of entitled (yes, that's right, the line blockers are JUST as entitled as those who would plow through without actually having a family member to meet) people who think they are the judge and jury about who has groveled enough to pass them?

And to those who would block me, I'd simply go under or over the rail, pass on the other side and hop right back over once I was past you. I'm not about to let someone else's selfishness spoil my time and I wouldn't give you another thought.

 

[Sgtfox]

Just so I understand, your position is that line cutting is okay because you're only adding a few seconds to everyone else's wait and that's better than having someone in your family have to wait for a longer period?

If that's really your belief, then do you ever wait in line for anything? Why wouldn't you just badge straight through to the front of every line in the park? After all, as you say, it's just one or two people and would only add a negligible time to everyone else's wait while saving you hours of waiting...

Also, if you still can't understand why this would upset people, you need to look up "the tragedy of the commons" to understand why "it's just one person!" isn't a very compelling argument.

 

[Rip]

Do you seriously not understand the difference between you waiting an extra two minutes and someone waaaay in front of you having to wait thirty minutes extra for their husband or wife or son or daughter to finally reach them after being blocked by a bunch of entitled (yes, that's right, the line blockers are JUST as entitled as those who would plow through without actually having a family member to meet) people who think they are the judge and jury about who has groveled enough to pass them?

And to those who would block me, I'd simply go under or over the rail, pass on the other side and hop right back over once I was past you. I'm not about to let someone else's selfishness spoil my time and I wouldn't give you another thought.

Your last paragraph is why I get a kick out of all these people that say they block people and never allow them to pass. I know that this isn't realistic because in almost every single line you can just go around them in just this fashion. It's mostly just internet "bada..es" that really do get irate when this happens to them.

 

[smidgy]

Just so I understand, your position is that line cutting is okay because you're only adding a few seconds to everyone else's wait and that's better than having someone in your family have to wait for a longer period?

If that's really your belief, then do you ever wait in line for anything? Why wouldn't you just badge straight through to the front of every line in the park? After all, as you say, it's just one or two people and would only add a negligible time to everyone else's wait while saving you hours of waiting...

Also, if you still can't understand why this would upset people, you need to look up "the tragedy of the commons" to understand why "it's just one person!" isn't a very compelling argument.

very interesting!!

 

[AndreaA]

Just so I understand, your position is that line cutting is okay because you're only adding a few seconds to everyone else's wait and that's better than having someone in your family have to wait for a longer period?

If that's really your belief, then do you ever wait in line for anything? Why wouldn't you just badge straight through to the front of every line in the park? After all, as you say, it's just one or two people and would only add a negligible time to everyone else's wait while saving you hours of waiting...

Also, if you still can't understand why this would upset people, you need to look up "the tragedy of the commons" to understand why "it's just one person!" isn't a very compelling argument.

Is this really that hard to understand? Really? Of course I wait in line for many (most!) things. If I'm alone, or if my family is together, we get in place at the back of the line, as per usual. But if I've been in line and had to run out for something or my husband had to run out for something, then yes, darn tootin' I am going to go back to reclaim my space. You, in fact, would be "stealing" my space if you refused to let me back through.

Does anyone really imagine that most people want to have to leave a line to deal with a potty break or a child hysterical because they discover they dropped their lovey back at the last ride, or the fact that they are panicked because they just realized that they left their wallet in plain view on the stroller?

Again, I just don't understand the mindset of the people who are so militant about such things. I suppose you've never been in a grocery line and had your husband run back for the butter either.

It's just amusing to me because I guarantee that the people who are "cutting" do not have any nefarious plans in their heads. They aren't thinking "my time is more important than these plebes!". They're thinking, "Darnit, I can't believe I had to trudge back through the line for x,y,z! I hope my wife isn't already at the front with the kids waiting and blocking the line!". They problably don't even notice if someone tries to block them, they just quickly scurry around with an embarassed and apologetic nod. Meanwhile those who are ever vigilant in regards to "cutters" are having their blood pressure rise throughout the day!

 

[Minerva Mouse]

I don't like it, but I've never stopped anyone from passing me. I just ask that you remember this little thing called common courtesy. Don't just push your self thru, at least have the decency to say excuse me, and thank you.

Try to remember the Golden Rule!

 

[smidgy]

Is this really that hard to understand? Really? Of course I wait in line for many (most!) things. If I'm alone, or if my family is together, we get in place at the back of the line, as per usual. But if I've been in line and had to run out for something or my husband had to run out for something, then yes, darn tootin' I am going to go back to reclaim my space. You, in fact, would be "stealing" my space if you refused to let me back through.

Does anyone really imagine that most people want to have to leave a line to deal with a potty break or a child hysterical because they discover they dropped their lovey back at the last ride, or the fact that they are panicked because they just realized that they left their wallet in plain view on the stroller?

Again, I just don't understand the mindset of the people who are so militant about such things. I suppose you've never been in a grocery line and had your husband run back for the butter either.

sigh. reading through this thread, you will see that almost no one has a problem with the scenarios you are talking about... you are truly REjoining your family.

we are talking about those who send part of their family into the line and purposely choose to do something else (bathroom, fastpass, sit in shade, take snowy on a dif. ride, etc.) and then "catch up " to the line placeholder.

why waste time waiting for those who have to go to the bathroom and then get in line altogether? we are more important than anyone else, so the ones who don't have to go.. quick! get in line, we'll "catch up"!

or, DH, get in line for the ride, kids and I will get in line for snacks, and catch up to you... why can't we wait in 2 lines at the same time?

there is a system set up to hold your place in line while you do other things. It's called FASTPASS.

if you are in line, and have to use the bathroom, not a problem for me at all.

but: get in the line all at the same time.

(and if we aren't walking fast enough for you, then slow down. we're all going to get to the spot where we have to stop and wait anyway)

 

[Purple Tentacle Guy]

Wife and I have only been to WDW a couple of times, usually in September, so crowds aren't that bad. But the line cutters, for all the aforementioned reasons, are around then too. Of course it bugs the heck out of me, but I'm at Disney World! Not much truly gets me grumpy while I'm there!

 

[smidgy]

yeah, I agree. it doesn't get me grumpy, it doesn't "ruin my trip".

I don't stress over it, etc etc etc yada yada yada.

but I still think it's wrong and unfair and rude.

 

[Sgtfox]

Is this really that hard to understand? Really? Of course I wait in line for many (most!) things. If I'm alone, or if my family is together, we get in place at the back of the line, as per usual. But if I've been in line and had to run out for something or my husband had to run out for something, then yes, darn tootin' I am going to go back to reclaim my space. You, in fact, would be "stealing" my space if you refused to let me back through.

So You think I stole your place when you decided to leave the line? Interesting. Of course, Disney disagrees with you as to who's space it is and who's stealing from whom. Line cutting and "holding place" in line is prohibited in all Disney parks and grounds for ejection. It's clearly printed on all the guide maps under guest policies. Just because you choose to ignore the rules and break them (at the expense of everyone else) doesn't make it any less of a rule or any less improper.

Again, take time to learn about "the tragedy of the commons" to understand why it's wrong. How long do you think it would take you to run out and "get something" or take a "potty break" if everyone thought like you and constantly barged in front of you at the vending location or bathroom? Or how long would it take your "line holder" to get to the front if every person in front of them held a spot for their family to cut through to?

 

[larryz]

What most of this boils down to is jealousy - "I waited in line all this time so you will too" (even in those cases where the only way it affects you is that you take a half step to the left or right to let 1-2 people through, which is much less bothersome than going around a group of people holding up the dang line).

Pretty much the same reason people get ornery when they don't know to use both lines at the CM eateries but you do.

Not jealousy -- basic fairness. Yes, I'm waiting in line, patiently, like an adult. I display no over-sized sense of self-importance, nor do I denigrate the value of those around me. Cutting in line in front of other people does both. And, frankly, it doesn't bother me to tell anyone that yes, I DO mind if they try and cut in front of me.

I'm waiting. You can wait, too. Only in cases of bioemergencies when someone has to leave the line will I willingly and gladly relinquish my position in line (because everyone knows you just can't predict those, no matter how many precautions you take).

BTW, the way to solve the issue at CS registers is to point out the way the system works to those who stubbornly line up on the right side. Show them that they can use both sides, and then wait your turn when they do.

 

[Minerva Mouse]

How long do you think it would take you to run out and "get something" or take a "potty break" if everyone thought like you and constantly barged in front of you at the vending location or bathroom? Or how long would it take your "line holder" to get to the front if every person in front of them held a spot for their family to cut through to?

Kinda a good point could you imagine...

 

[AndreaA]

LOL!

This whole thread is a riot. People really put waaaaay too much thought into something that clearly isn't a problem after forty-one years of operation. I've yet to hear one store here of someone forced to wait an hour while people streamed by to catch up with family, despite the dire predictions some here have put forth.

Again, this just seems a really, really silly thing to get bent out of shape about. If I hadn't seen this thread I would not have given it a second thought - either as a passer or a passee.

Forgot to add that the "tragedy of the commons" reference here is so over the top as to be laughable. It's practically Goodwin's Law in this case!

 

[xipotec]

HOT BUTTON

Seriously?
Line cutting is wrong.

Your lack of planning does not constitute my emergency.
1. Have your child use the restroom before getting in a long line. If they have to go again, its your loss, and you should accept it.
2. Holding a spot so others can ride other rides while the rest of the people wait there turn on each ride, is plain inconsiderate
3. No one deserves special treatment unless everyone does. If everyone did , the park would be in chaos, therefore no special treatment.
You are not special,
You are the same decaying matter as everyone else. Tyler
Can you tell how much this annoys me???? Lol

 

[kaytieeldr]

LOL!

This whole thread is a riot. People really put waaaaay too much thought into something that clearly isn't a problem after forty-one years of operation. I've yet to hear one store here of someone forced to wait an hour while people streamed by to catch up with family, despite the dire predictions some here have put forth.

Again, this just seems a really, really silly thing to get bent out of shape about. If I hadn't seen this thread I would not have given it a second thought - either as a passer or a passee.

Forgot to add that the "tragedy of the commons" reference here is so over the top as to be laughable. It's practically Goodwin's Law in this case!

It's nice to see you so amused by this thread. You might want to save it somewhere in case there's ever an issue that bothers you but others think is silly.

One party of two throughout a touring day rejoining their party in an attraction queue isn't an issue to most posters. If it were only that, threads like this wouldn't exist. But when it's multiple parties "re"joining their groups ahead in line, multiple times during the wait at each attraction all day, it adds up and gets annoying.

 

[20yBWDW]

Is this really that hard to understand? Really? Of course I wait in line for many (most!) things. If I'm alone, or if my family is together, we get in place at the back of the line, as per usual. But if I've been in line and had to run out for something or my husband had to run out for something, then yes, darn tootin' I am going to go back to reclaim my space. You, in fact, would be "stealing" my space if you refused to let me back through.

Does anyone really imagine that most people want to have to leave a line to deal with a potty break or a child hysterical because they discover they dropped their lovey back at the last ride, or the fact that they are panicked because they just realized that they left their wallet in plain view on the stroller?

Again, I just don't understand the mindset of the people who are so militant about such things. I suppose you've never been in a grocery line and had your husband run back for the butter either.

It's just amusing to me because I guarantee that the people who are "cutting" do not have any nefarious plans in their heads. They aren't thinking "my time is more important than these plebes!". They're thinking, "Darnit, I can't believe I had to trudge back through the line for x,y,z! I hope my wife isn't already at the front with the kids waiting and blocking the line!". They problably don't even notice if someone tries to block them, they just quickly scurry around with an embarassed and apologetic nod. Meanwhile those who are ever vigilant in regards to "cutters" are having their blood pressure rise throughout the day!

and this is exactly why I find it sad. I don't think they are thinking about the other people at all. They are focused on what they want and how to get it, without stopping to take into consideration what is the action that is considerate of those around them. Yet, in operating in that manner, they are relying on others being more considerate of them than they are in return.

Like I said, I have always let people through. But from a hypothetical standpoint, it should be recognized as a kindness, not as something you are entitled to. Those people who let you through are being more considerate of you than you are of them.

 

[Sgtfox]

This whole thread is a riot. People really put waaaaay too much thought into something that clearly isn't a problem after forty-one years of operation. I've yet to hear one store here of someone forced to wait an hour while people streamed by to catch up with family, despite the dire predictions some here have put forth.

The only reason it hasn't been a problem is because everyone else exercises enough courtesy and restraint not to do what you do. If they all agreed with your position and acted as you do, it would be a monumental problem.

Forgot to add that the "tragedy of the commons" reference here is so over the top as to be laughable. It's practically Goodwin's Law in this case!

I don't think either of those terms means what you think they do. Your first quote above exemplefies the tragedy of the commons. You believe it's fine for you to cut in line, since as long as everyone is not doing it, it hasn't caused a problem. Under the commons theory, such people are called "freeloaders." If I throw a piece of trash out of my car window, it won't block travel or even really make the city dirty. But if everyone threw trash out of teir car windows, the city would be filthy and the roads impassable. Therefore, I dont't throw trash out my window because it would make me a bad person under the commons theory.

I anxiously await your explanation of how the tragedy of the commons doesn't apply to you or your actions.

 

[AndreaA]

It's nice to see you so amused by this thread. You might want to save it somewhere in case there's ever an issue that bothers you but others think is silly.

One party of two throughout a touring day rejoining their party in an attraction queue isn't an issue to most posters. If it were only that, threads like this wouldn't exist. But when it's multiple parties "re"joining their groups ahead in line, multiple times during the wait at each attraction all day, it adds up and gets annoying.

And I'm still waiting to read a story about someone being repeatedly inconvenienced for multiple rides.

I admit I was more glib in my last post than I should have been, but I truly think that one who gt so upset about such issues really would do themselves a favor to just let it go and not sweat the small stuff. As I said in an earlier post, the chances are good that letting it bother you is only going to cause you stress and unnecessary unhappiness.

On the other hand, if it truly gives you pleasure to try to block "cutters" or otherwise give them a hard time, then sorry, but I can't relate. It's like people stubbornly going exactly the speed limit in the passing lane, just because they want to exert some small bit of power/control over those behind them.

Tragedy of the commons doesn't apply because clearly it has not and will not become a problem, so clearly this is NOT something that is being exploited.

Not to mention the fact that to use the phrase in such a petty and ultimately insignificant situation diminishes it in cases where it actually applies. Much as referring to Hitler in an argument diminishes the evil the man actually committed.

Oh, and I never said that letting people through isn't a kindness. In fact I specifically referred to it as such in my first post. And for those who are assuming anything about my line and park behavior, I haven't even been to the parks since 2006 and didn't have children and had no need to dash in and out of line. But I've certainly let people pass me, in amusement parks, in grocery stores, on the roads, wherever. The golden rule definitely applies.

 

[Rip]

HOT BUTTON

Seriously?
Line cutting is wrong.

Your lack of planning does not constitute my emergency.
1. Have your child use the restroom before getting in a long line. If they have to go again, its your loss, and you should accept it.
2. Holding a spot so others can ride other rides while the rest of the people wait there turn on each ride, is plain inconsiderate
3. No one deserves special treatment unless everyone does. If everyone did , the park would be in chaos, therefore no special treatment.
You are not special,
You are the same decaying matter as everyone else. Tyler
Can you tell how much this annoys me???? Lol

Unfortunately for you, you'll just have to spend your time being annoyed.

 

[Rip]

And I'm still waiting to read a story about someone being repeatedly inconvenienced for multiple rides.

I admit I was more glib in my last post than I should have been, but I truly think that one who gt so upset about such issues really would do themselves a favor to just let it go and not sweat the small stuff. As I said in an earlier post, the chances are good that letting it bother you is only going to cause you stress and unnecessary unhappiness.

On the other hand, if it truly gives you pleasure to try to block "cutters" or otherwise give them a hard time, then sorry, but I can't relate. It's like people stubbornly going exactly the speed limit in the passing lane, just because they want to exert some small bit of power/control over those behind them.

Tragedy of the commons doesn't apply because clearly it has not and will not become a problem, so clearly this is NOT something that is being exploited.

Not to mention the fact that to use the phrase in such a petty and ultimately insignificant situation diminishes it in cases where it actually applies. Much as referring to Hitler in an argument diminishes the evil the man actually committed.

Oh, and I never said that letting people through isn't a kindness. In fact I specifically referred to it as such in my first post. And for those who are assuming anything about my line and park behavior, I haven't even been to the parks since 2006 and didn't have children and had no need to dash in and out of line. But I've certainly let people pass me, in amusement parks, in grocery stores, on the roads, wherever. The golden rule definitely applies.

It's absolutely astounding that people can't recognize this.