What do you do with people that cut in line to meet up with group?

[DisneyFanJon]

This topic always just ends up going the same way every time and seems pointless to post

 

[Disney_Princess83]

The idea that "everyone" is going to do this is just not reality. But if people get upset over having one or two more people in front of them, they deserve whatever stress they feel. If they want to ruin their own day or vacation over smal stuff, that's their own fault. If people think waiting an extra 30 seconds is that tragic.....

HayGan--The problem is is that if it ok for you to push by people to join your family in line, then it is ok for everyone to do so. And really it is not. Just think about the mess the whole system would be in if everyone did what you did. There is no way you could look at a line and have an idea of how long the wait was. There is no way Disney could post a wait time that was at all accurate, as you would have hundreds of people shoving past those in the line in order to get ahead and ride.

I've gotten separated from my family in line before, and you know what they did? They came back to the beginning of the line and got me. I didn't push past others who were already waiting patiently in line.

In all honesty I think it is nice that people let you move up so you could ride with the rest of your family. But I don't think people should expect others to do what they did, and think nothing of it. And people shouldn't be made to feel bad about not letting people push past them.

 

[Disney_Princess83]

This debate is so ludicrous to me. Are people really arguing about whether or not they should be kind to others in the happiest place on earth? Whatever happened to strewing pixie dust and random acts of kindness?

Obviously I'm not talking about large groups plowing through, but I see NO reason for ANYONE to refuse to let a person or two pass to rejoin their group. There is no way I would be able to sleep at night if I caused a family to have to spend another half hour in line or more (assuming the members at the front had been standing for a while and would then have to wait all over again) instead of me waiting an extra minute or two.

I'm pretty shocked that so many people don't seem to be able to see the difference. By letting someone pass, you are costing yourself at most five minutes. By refusing, you are costing their entire group (including those who rightfully should be going ahead of you) the entire length of the line, be that fifteen minutes or fifty.

 

[maxiesmom]

The idea that "everyone" is going to do this is just not reality. But if people get upset over having one or two more people in front of them, they deserve whatever stress they feel. If they want to ruin their own day or vacation over smal stuff, that's their own fault. If people think waiting an extra 30 seconds is that tragic.....

Sooo if waiting a few more minutes is not tragic, then why can't the people already in line move back and join their family and friends behind them??? After all, why sweat it?

Kind of funny how those already in line should just wave people by with a smile, but to suggest those towards the front of the line should move back, and nooooooo!

 

[Rip]

This debate is so ludicrous to me. Are people really arguing about whether or not they should be kind to others in the happiest place on earth? Whatever happened to strewing pixie dust and random acts of kindness?

Obviously I'm not talking about large groups plowing through, but I see NO reason for ANYONE to refuse to let a person or two pass to rejoin their group. There is no way I would be able to sleep at night if I caused a family to have to spend another half hour in line or more (assuming the members at the front had been standing for a while and would then have to wait all over again) instead of me waiting an extra minute or two.

I'm pretty shocked that so many people don't seem to be able to see the difference. By letting someone pass, you are costing yourself at most five minutes. By refusing, you are costing their entire group (including those who rightfully should be going ahead of you) the entire length of the line, be that fifteen minutes or fifty.

Yeah, common sense tends to go by the wayside here. I'm with you, those "sticklers" prolly have a much higher stress level and enjoy themselves a whole lot less than people like us.

*cue the "oh I have a wonderful time following the rules" crowd....

Also funny, Disney really doesn't enforce these "rules", which kinda makes me think they aren't actually rules to begin with.

 

[Rip]

Sooo if waiting a few more minutes is not tragic, then why can't the people already in line move back and join their family and friends behind them??? After all, why sweat it?

Kind of funny how those already in line should just wave people by with a smile, but to suggest those towards the front of the line should move back, and nooooooo!

Do you really care that much when you're on vacation? Lord, I'd much rather 1-2 people politely ask to be let by than have to go around an entire group. That's just silliness. And absurdity, good thing few people outside of these boards actually care (Disney included).

 

[Mkrop]

Sooo if waiting a few more minutes is not tragic, then why can't the people already in line move back and join their family and friends behind them??? After all, why sweat it?

Kind of funny how those already in line should just wave people by with a smile, but to suggest those towards the front of the line should move back, and nooooooo!

Yep if it is no big deal then why dont you(general you) move back to where your family is vs plowing through the line. You wont mind waiting a few extra minutes will ya? I mean you are telling me it shouldnt matter if I wait, but it is not ok for your family

 

[Baby Pluto]

I'm not quick to judge scenarios like that, but I can see where the frustration would arise, especially if it's a larger group of people rejoining because chances are most of those people could have waited in line like the rest us. Regardless, I've never made a fuss about it.

When I was sick at Universal last year I wouldn't be very happy with someone not letting me rejoin my group, nor would I be happy explaining to them I was in and out of the bathroom for the past 20 minutes.

 

[maxiesmom]

Yep if it is no big deal then why dont you(general you) move back to where your family is vs plowing through the line. You wont mind waiting a few extra minutes will ya? I mean you are telling me it shouldnt matter if I wait, but it is not ok for your family

Exactly. What it boils down to is that it is ok for someone else to wait, but not the cutters or their family. The people who don't like someone going ahead of them are the rude and mean ones, not those cutting in front of them. The backwards thinking of the entitled.

 

[20yBWDW]

This debate is so ludicrous to me. Are people really arguing about whether or not they should be kind to others in the happiest place on earth? Whatever happened to strewing pixie dust and random acts of kindness?

Obviously I'm not talking about large groups plowing through, but I see NO reason for ANYONE to refuse to let a person or two pass to rejoin their group. There is no way I would be able to sleep at night if I caused a family to have to spend another half hour in line or more (assuming the members at the front had been standing for a while and would then have to wait all over again) instead of me waiting an extra minute or two.

I'm pretty shocked that so many people don't seem to be able to see the difference. By letting someone pass, you are costing yourself at most five minutes. By refusing, you are costing their entire group (including those who rightfully should be going ahead of you) the entire length of the line, be that fifteen minutes or fifty.

I think this kind of mischaracterizes the debate. Whether to show kindness to someone is a personal thing. I would absolutely allow someone to go ahead through. The issue is whether it is a kindness, or an obligation. And whether the person passing through to meet up with their family is relying on the kindness of strangers, or is entitled to do it. Not letting someone pass is not costing them time away from their family. If the family is in two different spots in line, they have two choices to be together. They can all be together in the spot closes to the front, or the spot closer to the end. There are people here arguing that they are entitled, by virtue of having a single member of the family being there, to the spot closer to the front. While I would allow someone to pass to be kind, I cannot imagine the thought process that thinks "I have a problem and you people are obligated to help me solve it in the way most favorable to me and my family, instead of the way that solves the problem in a way more favorable to you."

 

[Rip]

What most of this boils down to is jealousy - "I waited in line all this time so you will too" (even in those cases where the only way it affects you is that you take a half step to the left or right to let 1-2 people through, which is much less bothersome than going around a group of people holding up the dang line).

Pretty much the same reason people get ornery when they don't know to use both lines at the CM eateries but you do.

 

[20yBWDW]

The idea that "everyone" is going to do this is just not reality. But if people get upset over having one or two more people in front of them, they deserve whatever stress they feel. If they want to ruin their own day or vacation over smal stuff, that's their own fault. If people think waiting an extra 30 seconds is that tragic.....

It's not the stress of the extra wait that bothers me. It is a sadness that people really think the way some of the people on this thread do...that person A thinks that if she encounters a problem caused by her and no fault of anyone around her, that the people around her should bear the burden of making it right. I don't care about the extra wait, and if people ask me as a favor, I always say yes. But people who feel that it is just their right...they make me sad.

 

[Rip]

I think this kind of mischaracterizes the debate. Whether to show kindness to someone is a personal thing. I would absolutely allow someone to go ahead through. The issue is whether it is a kindness, or an obligation. And whether the person passing through to meet up with their family is relying on the kindness of strangers, or is entitled to do it. Not letting someone pass is not costing them time away from their family. If the family is in two different spots in line, they have two choices to be together. They can all be together in the spot closes to the front, or the spot closer to the end. There are people here arguing that they are entitled, by virtue of having a single member of the family being there, to the spot closer to the front. While I would allow someone to pass to be kind, I cannot imagine the thought process that thinks "I have a problem and you people are obligated to help me solve it in the way most favorable to me and my family, instead of the way that solves the problem in a way more favorable to you."

Logistically, would you rather allow 1-2 people (again, almost no one is talking about large groups) to pass you to rejoin, or make the (likely larger) group either wait (and hold up the line to a greater extent than allowing said 1-2 to rejoin) or "push" back through?

If any of you answer the latter, you're actually imposing more of an inconvenience on yourself any everyone between you and the group ahead of you. So then it comes down to why you would do this.

 

[Hannathy]

What most of this boils down to is jealousy - "I waited in line all this time so you will too" (even in those cases where the only way it affects you is that you take a half step to the left or right to let 1-2 people through, which is much less bothersome than going around a group of people holding up the dang line).

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just stepping aside is NOT the only way it affects you. the person stepping aside has to wait longer. They may miss the cut off for a show or a vehicle and have a long wait.
If stepping aside is no big deal and your right the stepping aside is no big deal, then I will gladly step aside so your family can come thru and meet up with you BEHIND me! There problem solved with your simple stepping aside. But oh wait you don't get to get ahead that way so it isn't OK.

 

[Baby Pluto]

Speaking of line cutting, I have a disgustingly irksome story to share.

Someone I know (a father well into his 40s) needed to use a scooter to transport himself around DL due to weight issues, and as such, he seemed to think that entitled him to save a spot in the handicap line for the rest of us. He wasn't even planning on riding any of the attractions, it was solely for myself and his family so we didn't need to wait so long in the "regular" lineup. Unfortunately it was better for me not to speak up against him but I cannot even begin to describe how sickened I felt budging in front young children with disabilities.

I don't think that is excusable at all.

 

[Rip]

just stepping aside is NOT the only way it affects you. the person stepping aside has to wait longer. They may miss the cut off for a show or a vehicle and have a long wait.
If stepping aside is no big deal and your right the stepping aside is no big deal, then I will gladly step aside so your family can come thru and meet up with you BEHIND me! There problem solved with your simple stepping aside. But oh wait you don't get to get ahead that way so it isn't OK.

For 1-2 people, it really is. Yes, there are very extreme examples listed earlier where you'd have to wait an extra 8 minutes, but those are, for all practical purposes, a needle in a haystack. In the overwhelming majority (probably 99.9999999999999%) it would actually take longer if the group ahead tried to tell everyone to go around them or, even worse, pushed their way backwards.

Your emphasis on "BEHIND" kinda proves my point. It's really about your attitude that "you were here FIRST". Ok, if that's the way you want to tackle it, but in most cases you are the only one that is going to suffer, because folks are still going to get around you and not even remember you exist while you fume in your head at the injustice of it all.

I'm not being mean, and the 1 and only time (out of more days that I can even remember) that I've ever asked to rejoin my family was when I had to leave a line to take my youngest to the toilet when we were potty training him. I'm saying this because too many people on here sweat the small stuff, and this is really small stuff.

 

[andyman8]

What most of this boils down to is jealousy - "I waited in line all this time so you will too" (even in those cases where the only way it affects you is that you take a half step to the left or right to let 1-2 people through, which is much less bothersome than going around a group of people holding up the dang line).

Pretty much the same reason people get ornery when they don't know to use both lines at the CM eateries but you do.

I agree! Wonderfully said. What I get a bit urked about is people saying they'd be willing to get into fist fights over such a trivial matter. Simply, report it to a CM and go on with your day. I'm not endorsing cutting in any way (it's unacceptable), but I don't see the need to make a scene.

 

[Rip]

I agree! Wonderfully said. What I get a bit urked about is people saying they'd be willing to get into fist fights over such a trivial matter. Simply, report it to a CM and go on with your day. I'm not endorsing cutting in any way (it's unacceptable), but I don't see the need to make a scene.

Exactly. And one must also understand that "rude" is, at least to an extent, subjective. In some areas of the world doing this is completely acceptable and Disney does kinda market to a global audience. My advice is just enjoy your vacation and let it roll.

 

[Hannathy]

For 1-2 people, it really is. Yes, there are very extreme examples listed earlier where you'd have to wait an extra 8 minutes, but those are, for all practical purposes, a needle in a haystack. In the overwhelming majority (probably 99.9999999999999%) it would actually take longer if the group ahead tried to tell everyone to go around them or, even worse, pushed their way backwards.

Your emphasis on "BEHIND" kinda proves my point. It's really about your attitude that "you were here FIRST". Ok, if that's the way you want to tackle it, but in most cases you are the only one that is going to suffer, because folks are still going to get around you and not even remember you exist while you fume in your head at the injustice of it all.

I'm not being mean, and the 1 and only time (out of more days that I can even remember) that I've ever asked to rejoin my family was when I had to leave a line to take my youngest to the toilet when we were potty training him. I'm saying this because too many people on here sweat the small stuff, and this is really small stuff.

Howe could it possible take me longer to continue on in the line, with now actually less people in front of me than behind. I don't get what is so hard to stand to the side and Wait till who you want to be with catches up to you.


I'm not sure how they are going to go around me if I don't move and I wouldn't think twice later in the day if I don't move but I will be bothered if I let them cut.

 

[Rip]

Howe could it possible take me longer to continue on in the line, with now actually less people in front of me than behind. I don't get what is so hard to stand to the side and Wait till who you want to be with catches up to you.

Obviously you've never seen it in practice, people stopping (between you and the "offending" party), having to tell "x" number of people "it's ok, I'm waiting for my wife, please go around us", etc. I don't get why you have such an issue with standing to one side and letting 1-2 people ease past you and avoid the confusion.

I'm not sure how they are going to go around me if I don't move and I wouldn't think twice later in the day if I don't move but I will be bothered if I let them cut.

Oh, they can get around you. There are entirely too many places where the line is wide enough, or they'd just duck under your arms. Of course, you could drop an elbow, but then they'd eject you.

Either way, I've made my point. You've actually done me the favor of further proving it.