Vent-- If you aren't handicapped do not use the darn sticker

[Mickeypooh99]

My father in law would be able to do what you described, but what you wouldn't see are the braces on his legs covered by his pants. The braces allow him to walk short distances. He cannot walk long distances. There is nothing wrong with his arms and I have seen him lift those water jugs. If you looked really close you might be able to tell he doesn't walk quite normal, but it would be hard for anyone who doesn't know him to notice. He has every right to a handicapped parking space.

 

[happygirl]

What are this stickers that you are keep speaking of? The ones we have here are on the license plate.

 

[KAMLEM]

I am betting the OP is just trolling..

The OP has almost 8,000 posts, I doubt she's the one trolling...

You have no idea who that lady was shopping for. Maybe her hubby is handicapped. It really not fair of you to judge this women. Since you don't know the whole story

If her hubby is handicapped and he is not with her she should NOT be using the handicapped sticker.

 

[FireDancer]

No offense Fire Dancer, but we don't often agree.

No offense taken.

 

[luvmy3]

Well, two things.

1. People who don't need them shouldn't use handicapped stickers.

2. The OP has no idea if the person she saw actually has a handicap, but it would seem to me that if they can physically lift such heavy items, that they really don't need to be that close to the front door, unless their handicap is in their feet? It couldn't be back or upper-body or ?

What handicap WOULD this person have that would give them a sticker if they seem to have full body use? Maybe they are mentally handicapped? Maybe they have a fear of parking too far away?

That is what irked me because I saw two other people who definitely could have used that spot more than her. I admit I have no idea what her handicap could be, but if she was able to physically do what I saw her do, then she could have parked elsewhere. The parking lot was far from full, in fact when I pulled in there were spots all over.

I had a handicapped placard until December when I had my hip replaced. I looked "normal" did all the shopping etc BUT every step was agony. Could everyone tell? Nope. Did I ask for help to carry my stuff to the car? Nope. It was important to me to keep some independence. By the time I left the grocery store (or wherever) I was in so much pain- I was really happy to have my car close. It would literally take me all afternoon to unload my groceries.

Unless your eyes are an MRI machine, you have NO IDEA what that woman's joints look like.

BTW- the surgeon wanted me to renew my placard for my post surgical recovery (for at least 6 months) and I refused. I could now walk relatively pain free and was SO HAPPY to NOT use those places anymore!

You really have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm betting that if you had to lift 10 gallons of water plus other stuff the pain would have shoiwn in your face. That woman lifted those jugs (at least 3 times each that I saw) and there was not one iota of pain showing.

There is no way this thread will end well.

well it will for me, I have to go pick up the kids from school.

 

[Mermaid02]

What are this stickers that you are keep speaking of? The ones we have here are on the license plate.

States have different things. Here in Maine we have a placard you hang from your rearview mirror. This way you can take it with you if you go with someone else. A handicapped license plate can also be issued, but you can't take it with you if you use another car.

 

[Mermaid02]

That is what irked me because I saw two other people who definitely could have used that spot more than her. I admit I have no idea what her handicap could be, but if she was able to physically do what I saw her do, then she could have parked elsewhere. The parking lot was far from full, in fact when I pulled in there were spots all over.



I'm betting that if you had to lift 10 gallons of water plus other stuff the pain would have shoiwn in your face. That woman lifted those jugs (at least 3 times each that I saw) and there was not one iota of pain showing.



well it will for me, I have to go pick up the kids from school.

Probably- because I'm weak. However, my deformed/arthritic/necrotic hip would have nothing to do with it.

 

[Heidict]

I'm betting that if you had to lift 10 gallons of water plus other stuff the pain would have shoiwn in your face. That woman lifted those jugs (at least 3 times each that I saw) and there was not one iota of pain showing.

This is what I don't understand. What the heck does her using her arms and back have anything to do with a possible problem/handicap with her legs, knees, ankles or feet?

She very well could have an issue with something below the waist, necessitating the use of the handicap sticker, but have no problems with her upper body strength.

 

[lovesmurfs]

http://www.invisibledisabilities.org/park.htm

It's not for me to judge whether someone "needs" something or not. By virtue of the state, she was eligible. There are sufficient handicapped parking spaces that would accommodate the other two people OP saw in the store. Now if the person buying water didn't have a sticker, that's when I would be upset. It's best not to judge.

 

[Allison]

You are speculating and don't have any facts to put you in a position to be able to rate one disability against another and judge who should take what spot.

 

[Handbag Lady]

Maybe the store where the OP shops needs more handicapped spaces.

That would solve the problem.

 

[luvmy3]

Do you know why she had the handicap sticker? I'm assuming you must in order to make a statement such as "yes i do know what i'm talking about". You know what? You don't know what you are talking about. You can speculate and guess all you want, but short of knowing her medical history you can't begin to know anything about her.

Next time you see something like this, and it bothers you this much, then talk to them. Ask them why they are using a handicap parking space and sticker when they don't seem to need one. At least according to you. Maybe you can shame them into never doing it again. Coming on here and telling us not to do it is not going to teach the "offender" anything.

I know what I'mtalking about because I know what I saw her do and I will stand behind what I said, that woman did not need to park in that spot, whether or not she needed that sticker.
Just as I don't know what I'm talking about neither do any of you, there is in fact a chance that she wasn't handicapped and was using that sticker/tag just to get a primo spot

My father in law would be able to do what you described, but what you wouldn't see are the braces on his legs covered by his pants. The braces allow him to walk short distances. He cannot walk long distances. There is nothing wrong with his arms and I have seen him lift those water jugs. If you looked really close you might be able to tell he doesn't walk quite normal, but it would be hard for anyone who doesn't know him to notice. He has every right to a handicapped parking space.

No hidden braces, she was wearing shorts.

What are this stickers that you are keep speaking of? The ones we have here are on the license plate.

I say sticker but its a tag on the mirror.

 

[npmommie]

I am just curious how many handicapped spots your Lowes has? Ours has way more handicapped spots than are ever filled at once.
but then again I don't go on saturday mornings or other very busy times.
but I am just saying, did that woman take the one and only handicapped spot?
surely those others you mentioned were able to park in a handicapped spot too?

my elderly mom has a handicapped sticker, it hangs from her rearview mirror, she brings it along when we go in my car here, she needs it but she doesn't look handicapped,
multiple knee and back surgeries and she can't walk far distance without pain.

 

[nuttylawprofessor]

I know that there are those who are handicapped that do not appear to be, but if you are able to purchase two 5 gallon water jugs (the kind that go into the water coolers) and a cart full of other stuff and are able to load it into your cart, push that cart and then unload them into your car, you are clearly not in need of that parking spot.
I normally don't get bothered by this stuff but there were two other people in the store who were handicapped, and for all I know that lady with the jugs took their parking spot

Your *opinion* does not trump the doctor's diagnosis that allowed the person to get the permit/placard.

My father had an ignorant busy-body tell him that he didn't need his placard last week. Like the alleged miscreant in the OP, my dad was unloading his full cart including dog food and kitty litter bags into the back of the car. He lives alone and doesn't have anyone to shop for him. What the busy-body didn't know is that my father has a disintegrated hip, screwed up back, and terminal kidney disease. He *looks* fine, but he really doesn't need to schlep to the hinterlands of the parking lot. What my father should have told the fool was, "I got my bad hip, bad back, and kidney disease from jumping out of airplanes and being sprayed with Agent Orange while in the Army protecting your right to say something stupid. Next time, I'd rather you just say thanks."

Live and let live.

 

[ginna74]

before my dad was permenently off his feet with MS there would be times where he could walk just fine. He would have to use a walker then a wheelchair then could walk just fine and that is really how it was for years. He has had a handicap placecard and license plate sense around the time he was diagnosed. During the times where he could walk you really couldn't "see" what he had..

 

[luvmy3]

This is what I don't understand. What the heck does her using her arms and back have anything to do with a possible problem/handicap with her legs, knees, ankles or feet?

She very well could have an issue with something below the waist, necessitating the use of the handicap sticker, but have no problems with her upper body strength.

You do know that you use more of your body than just your arms when you lift heavy items right?

http://www.invisibledisabilities.org/park.htm

It's not for me to judge whether someone "needs" something or not. By virtue of the state, she was eligible. There are sufficient handicapped parking spaces that would accommodate the other two people OP saw in the store. Now if the person buying water didn't have a sticker, that's when I would be upset. It's best not to judge.

Or she could have borrowed someone elses car, or sticker too. I have no problem judging.


Oh and the store only had 2 handicapped spots.

 

[DisMN]

How awful to need a handicapped sticker and have everyone judge you if you're having a good day that day and don't happen to look like you need it. Geez louise........

I take it if you have a handicap you're supposed to wince every now and then to make it obvious. Got it.

I know plenty of people who have high pain tolerance and wouldn't wince or otherwise show signs of actually being handicapped.

 

[TeresaBelle]

Your *opinion* does not trump the doctor's diagnosis that allowed the person to get the permit/placard.

My father had an ignorant busy-body tell him that he didn't need his placard last week. Like the alleged miscreant in the OP, my dad was unloading his full cart including dog food and kitty litter bags into the back of the car. He lives alone and doesn't have anyone to shop for him. What the busy-body didn't know is that my father has a disintegrated hip, screwed up back, and terminal kidney disease. He *looks* fine, but he really doesn't need to schlep to the hinterlands of the parking lot. What my father should have told the fool was, "I got my bad hip, bad back, and kidney disease from jumping out of airplanes and being sprayed with Agent Orange while in the Army protecting your right to say something stupid. Next time, I'd rather you just say thanks."

Live and let live.

 

[DisMN]

You do know that you use more of your body than just your arms when you lift heavy items right?



Or she could have borrowed someone elses car, or sticker too. I have no problem judging.


Oh and the store only had 2 handicapped spots.

As I just mentioned the person may have simply been having a really good health day, you know? They may have then hopped in the car absolutely overjoyed that they didn't have to ask someone to help them.

 

[PebblesMom]

Lung Cancer. Someone with lung cancer can lift 5lbs, but can not walk because it can become hard to breath. I had an uncle who had a handicap plate for just this reason.