I wish more people understood this. It is not just random changing of “the goals.” There is a lot more that is known today vs six months or a year ago. Do “you” have the exact same view of COVID as “you”did six months or a year ago? I know I don’t. Heck I’m not even sure I have the same view as I did six weeks ago.
Curious what goals you feel are moving and what would need to happen for you to change your mind.
Not sure where you are, but some states are lifting restrictions based on the % vaccinated rather than number of infections. This is something we have more control over if we all get our shots. Vaccinations here in CT have been excellent and we are lifting all restrictions by May 19. The more people who get the shot, the better chance things go back to normal. Nothing is ever a guarantee. If you are on the fence, please get your vaccine!!
I don't understand how the goals being moved change how you feel about the vaccine. The goals being moved don't change how the vaccine is created, what is in the vaccine, how it's delivered, or the speed at which it was developed. Can you elaborate on why the goals would determine if you get the vaccine?
Science-wise the ability to spread is important but so is the betterment of everyone. Consider how freaked out so many of us were at seeing masks when they first started. I like to tell the story of back in March 2020 when a plane landed at my airport and security/police were called because a person was wearing a mask and at that time generally only the ones who had symptoms were wearing it. Passengers were freaked out and talked to the FA who then alerted ground crew, big affair (no the passenger in question did not have covid). Gradually people became more acclimated to it, but once you start to see less people wearing it that social component will drive people to less and less wear it unless businesses also require a mask but that's irrespective of one's vaccinated status, you won't know and places won't force you (unless we're suggesting your local grocery store is going to require your CDC card to come in and shop without a mask). I think if we didn't have multiple variants that are increasingly showing their presence there would be more a sense of acceptability but because we have these variants it puts even vaccinated people at a higher risk than before due to effectiveness against them even while still being a lower risk.
I wish people would stop describing it at that (not aimed at you just aimed at every single person who says nothing changes). I suspect the issue for most is they are already doing some of the things on the "go" list and are frustrated they don't just get to do everything now.
Add me to the list that doesn't understand what one has to do with the other.
From CDC's website. https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html
Yes! I recently learned the stuff about no long term side effects from vaccines myself. Good info, especially since that understandably plays into some of the worries of a vaccine.
And that's where it gets so frustrating for those of us who have been following the public health guidelines all along. We've been holding up the umbrella for over a year for those who pretend it isn't raining. We'd like to get our lives back, but we realize that if we all give up and drop the umbrella, then we get a surge like we can't even imagine. So we're begging people to get vaccinated so we can all get back to normal, and the same people who have been acting like it isn't raining don't want to get vaccinated either. It gets old.
I'm from an area with a large Asian population, including a lot of Asian expats and international students. It frankly wasn't unusual to see people on the street wearing masks - at least procedure style masks that a doctor might wear during an exam.
I'm talking about the nation at large and yes the nation at large was very unsettled at first about mask wearing likely because we were more "if you're sick wear a mask" at that time so people associated mask wearing with people being sick. I'm not even going to get into the cultural discussion other than to say it's likely that many of whom you are talking about weren't wearing them to just wear them, it was likely more they were under the weather rather than a 24/7 365 days a year mask wearing such that this pandemic is more about. But again don't want to get into the cultural debate respectfully.
Not exactly sure what you mean by "cultural discussion". However, much of Asia got really freaked out with SARS and avian flu that they wear masks, and encouraged their relatives in the west to do so.
It usually gets to a debate over whether Asian cultures/countries wear masks as in it's a normalized thing there and people debate over how common it really is that it's seen that way and what situations they wear it and etc. And your comments are already starting that. Respectfully I didn't want to get that going
I was just pointing out how masks were seen socially in the very beginning.It usually gets to a debate over whether Asian cultures/countries wear masks as in it's a normalized thing there and people debate over how common it really is that it's seen that way and what situations they wear it and etc. And your comments are already starting that. Respectfully I didn't want to get that going
It usually gets to a debate over whether Asian cultures/countries wear masks as in it's a normalized thing there and people debate over how common it really is that it's seen that way and what situations they wear it and etc. And your comments are already starting that. Respectfully I didn't want to get that going
