Upset about the ADRs 90+10 fiasco that Free dining is creating

I agree with the OP - I preferred the 180 day mark for making ADRs. As a DVC member, I plan our trips well in advance, planning our restaurant choices as well. The dining plan (and free dining in particular) make it very difficult to get reservations at the 90 day mark. I have read numerous posts regarding this issue. I have also read on some of the sites that people are double booking if they aren't sure which park they might be in on a given day.
I sent an e-mail to DVC suggesting that maybe, as a perk to DVC members, they could allow members to book ADRs further out than 90 days. Wouldn't cost Disney a cent to do something like that.

Bring back the 180 days ADRs!! :goodvibes

I posted the same thing about DVC members getting earlier ADRs as a perk since it wouldn't cost Disney financially. I honestly think that if they had the ADRs at 180 days as previous, I would not be here complaining. I would have made my ADRs early before they announce the free dining and NOT be caught up in this mess. :scared: I don't even get the free dining! (Not that I want it.):sad2:
 
Hang out on the trip planning board and see what extent this people go to, to plan the "perfect" vacation. :headache: It makes the D-day invasion of Normandy look like a day at the beach.

Or read the unofficial guide which gives advice like:

set one of your clocks to the USNO Atomic Clock
call a few days before and write down the phone tree
durning that call double check that you'll be able to start making ADRs on [day of the week]
call a morning or two before and time how long it takes for your call get setup (double check your phone tree)
call a few minutes before 7am to get your phone programmed with the number in redial (Or already have it in a speed dial slot)
start calling the morning of 100 days, at 7am eastern - setup time (based on your atomic synced clock)
go though the phone tree preprogrammed They suggest you write down the first word of each level...
as soon as you hear a human shout out "Cindy's Table, 8am on the 25th"
Seconds count...

Yes it's precision operation if you want to get one of the first ADRs for Cindy's

johno
 
Or read the unofficial guide which gives advice like:

set one of your clocks to the USNO Atomic Clock
call a few days before and write down the phone tree
durning that call double check that you'll be able to start making ADRs on [day of the week]
call a morning or two before and time how long it takes for your call get setup (double check your phone tree)
call a few minutes before 7am to get your phone programmed with the number in redial (Or already have it in a speed dial slot)
start calling the morning of 100 days, at 7am eastern - setup time (based on your atomic synced clock)
go though the phone tree preprogrammed They suggest you write down the first word of each level...
as soon as you hear a human shout out "Cindy's Table, 8am on the 25th"
Seconds count...

Yes it's precision operation if you want to get one of the first ADRs for Cindy's

johno

:scared1: :eek: :scared:

(Boy....I thought I was a planner!:sad2:)
 

as soon as you hear a human shout out "Cindy's Table, 8am on the 25th"
Seconds count...

Yes it's precision operation if you want to get one of the first ADRs for Cindy's

As soon as you hear a human, you shout out WHAT?!?!

If my wife did that, I would send her to the doctor immediately. You should be arrested for that. Yikes.
 
As soon as you hear a human, you shout out WHAT?!?!

If my wife did that, I would send her to the doctor immediately. You should be arrested for that. Yikes.

The book says... there will be plenty of time for apologies after the ADR is secured....

:)

And I'm just repeating/paraphrasing what is in the book... don't yell at me.

johno
 
The book says... there will be plenty of time for apologies after the ADR is secured....

:)

And I'm just repeating/paraphrasing what is in the book... don't yell at me.

johno

Not yelling at you -- just.... in shock.
 
You usually do have to provide a res number.

You have to provide a res number if you are using the 90 plus 10 option. People can make ADRs at 90 days out without a res number. If they couldn't no one offsite or local could get an ADR
 
Or read the unofficial guide which gives advice like:

set one of your clocks to the USNO Atomic Clock
call a few days before and write down the phone tree
durning that call double check that you'll be able to start making ADRs on [day of the week]
call a morning or two before and time how long it takes for your call get setup (double check your phone tree)
call a few minutes before 7am to get your phone programmed with the number in redial (Or already have it in a speed dial slot)
start calling the morning of 100 days, at 7am eastern - setup time (based on your atomic synced clock)
go though the phone tree preprogrammed They suggest you write down the first word of each level...
as soon as you hear a human shout out "Cindy's Table, 8am on the 25th"
Seconds count...

Yes it's precision operation if you want to get one of the first ADRs for Cindy's

johno

*Robin hangs her head in shame.*

Yes, I have done that exact scenario when my DD was younger and the Cindy's reservation was paramount. All the way down to the atomic clock (atomic clock sync for my PC: http://www.worldtimeserver.com/atomic-clock/) and writing down the phone tree so I didn't get stuck in voice mail jail. The good news is that I got my reservation each and every time :woohoo:. You should see me on the day that I need to call DVC for my annual NYE reservation. Let's just say that "practice makes perfect", LOL.
 
We're not free diners but ARE coincidently going on August 16. Free dining always USED to start the week or so after so this was the first time I had to make ADR's at the same time. WHAT a pain. I was literally on the phone for 1 hr. 48 minutes. The biggest problem for me this go-around was that DS wants to see Fantasmic (again). I could do without it but.... Anyway, now that they're only doing the show 2-3 times / week it's super extra hard to get a Fantasmic pkg. By the time I got thru yest. morning there was only 1 time left at only 1 restaurant for only 1 day of the week we're there.:headache: NOT the restaurant we wanted (Brown Derby) and NOT the time we wanted (3:40). I don't know if we'll keep it or not. I had called last week for pricing for the pkg. at the various participating restaurants and last week was told $46.99 pp for Brown Derby and yesterday was told $50.05 pp.:scared1: We've never eaten at the Brown Derby but I cannot imagine ANY meal being worth that much. Esp. for DS who's now 12 but will probably eat from the children's selections. :sad2: If I can talk him out of seeing the show again without a hissy fit I will.

ALSO, BTW, I'm a double booker and freely admit it and here's why. I HATE, HATE, HATE being forced to make ADR's so far ahead and hate having to commit to being in a certain park at a certain time months in advance. If they would hold some slots back to give out at say 2 weeks I'd have a much better idea what I really want and it would eliminate this mess. We want some flexibility with our plans and like to be a little spontaneous. We usually only do about 3 TS meals over a week so I made 3 reservations at San Angel Inn (1 for lunch and 2 for dinner, all on diff. days 'cuz I don't know yet where / when we will be). I WILL call back and cancel the 2 that we don't want once we know what we're doing. Likewise, I made 3 ressies for Tony's Town Square for diff. days because I don't know yet what are plan is going to be and I made 2 ressies for lunch at Tusker House. I have all of the Disney phone numbers programmed into my cell (Dining, DCL, DVC etc.) and I WILL call and cancel what we don't want to keep out of those - there will be someone who didn't know they needed to call 90 days ahead who will be calling at the last minute who will get lucky and will get whatever I cancel. Making ADR's was never my idea of fun and double booking is what they get for forcing them on people if they want to eat a TS meal - especially since the invention of the dining plan, which we don't do. We just want to eat what we want, when we want, where we want. Double booking is a pain in my butt too and is not how I prefer to do it. But the dining plan has forced me to plan in this manner.:rolleyes:
 
We're not free diners but ARE coincidently going on August 16. Free dining always USED to start the week or so after so this was the first time I had to make ADR's at the same time.
Nope. Free dining has ALWAYS been on or before August 16th. I know because I have been at WDW for my DD's birthday the last 3 August 17th's and got free dining each time.

In 2006 it started on 8/13, in 2007 it started on 8/5 for "bounceback" and 8/12 for UK residents and 8/26 for everyone else, in 2008 it started on 8/10 for UK and "bounceback" and 8/26 for everyone else. Now the hoards of new free diners didn't start until after the 16th the last two years so I guess that's a difference :). I also think that 90-day ADRs are to blame for most of this. It compressed everyone into one or two days of making their dining instead of spreading it out over when they made their reservation.

BTW, I have double-booked too. I always double-book NYE. I book one reservation to include friends and another for just us. If my friends don't make it (and they have canceled at the last minute) I always have my back-up reservation. I alwats cancel the one we don't use in a timely manner. In fact, I usually cancel it after noting it in the "December ADRs" thread so a fellow DISer can scoop it up!
 
Actually Anal Annie is right, it always started around the 24th. There might have been some special programs that began before, but for the US free dining it was around the 24th.
 
Actually Anal Annie is right, it always started around the 24th. There might have been some special programs that began before, but for the US free dining it was around the 24th.
Did you even read what I wrote?
 
The book says... there will be plenty of time for apologies after the ADR is secured....

johno

These people need psychiatric help.:lmao:

I have in the past, for special occasions, made ADRs but not as a rule.

This is vacation and I don't want to have to adhere to a schedule, I want to be spontaneous. Many times we don't even try to make dining reservations until we get there. I have never been during free dining and from what I'm reading I don't want to be there at this time frame.

Thank God for DVC - I can avoid the craziness of the free dining period.

I can't imagine what this does for the crowd levels in the parks. This is nuts.

Oh well, to each his own. :confused3
 
I have never been during free dining and from what I'm reading I don't want to be there at this time frame.

Thank God for DVC - I can avoid the craziness of the free dining period.

I can't imagine what this does for the crowd levels in the parks. This is nuts.

Oh well, to each his own. :confused3

I wish we could avoid the Free Dining period. However, we only go twice a year - once during Spring Break (and since we want to go 2 weeks at time - make the airfare worth it, my children will miss one week of school) and the other time has to be during summer break so that my children don't miss any more time from school. And the best time is to go during the last two weeks of August since some US school are back in session. We would love to go in September, as what I originally planned this year (last week of Aug and 1st week of Sept), but our school board has decided to bring the children back in school BEFORE Labour Day. This has not happened in the past many years so most of us are not prepared. I had to scramble to change my reservation, only to find that it is during the beginning of Free Dining.:mad: So I want to be blame someone, maybe the school board or Disney for offering Free Dining while the children in Florida are still on summer break or Disney for bring the ADRs back to 90 days or myself for not wanting to have my children miss too much school ...well, not myself because school is important....but any of the other ones will do.:lmao:
 
These people need psychiatric help.:lmao:

I have in the past, for special occasions, made ADRs but not as a rule.

This is vacation and I don't want to have to adhere to a schedule, I want to be spontaneous. Many times we don't even try to make dining reservations until we get there. I have never been during free dining and from what I'm reading I don't want to be there at this time frame.

Thank God for DVC - I can avoid the craziness of the free dining period.

I can't imagine what this does for the crowd levels in the parks. This is nuts.

Oh well, to each his own. :confused3

Unless you're like us and book before Disney announces the free dining and it coincidently overlaps your vacation. I had no intention of going during that mess. I know robinb says it has always started then but I know we went that week 2 summers ago and the free dining started the week AFTER we were there - at least for the majority of the people there. I guess that's just what we get for trying to stretch our points and going in "Dream" season!:rotfl: Some dream huh?:rotfl2:
 
Ugggg - it would grant DVC such, such good will if they allowed DVC members to book ADRs at 180 or 120 or 100 days. What would be the harm in that and, like the free Internet that DVC allows its members, it would be a perk that truly makes you feel appreciated for buying into DVC. I mean, our trips are booked anyway... What a bummer for everyone having to make ADRs to compete with free dining. I feel for you! :hug:
 
You're like my wife who constantly says, "Are you listening to me?"
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

sorry about that, my bad. :goodvibes
*snork* No worries. I actually made my DH go to the doctor a couple years aho because he didn't seem to hear me when I talked to him. It turned out he just wasn't listening :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:.
 
Sad, but true. To me, a vacation isn't supposed to be fully planned. A meal here and there with ADRs is fine, but we let a lot of the magic "just happen." A rigorous schedule would not be relaxing to me.

Well put. I made ADR's for the first time last year just to make sure we could get in some of our favorite restaurants. As it turned out we probably could have walked in to any restaurant we wanted to. We have our TS meal for lunch and June 1-6 last year was very light crowdwise. There were empty tables at Le Cellier when we ate there, weird.
 



















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