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The Telegraph recently posted an article listing the 30 biggest conspiracy theories of all time.

The conspiracies that they listed are:

1) 9/11 was an inside job or that the US knew and allowed it.
2) The Kennedy assassination was not just Oswald.
3) A extraterrestrial crashed in Roswell in 1947.
4) NASA faked the moon landings.
5) The Illuminati and the New World Order
6) Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a child.
7) Diana was murdered.
8) Elvis faked his death.
9) Operation Northwoods.
10) MK-Ultra - CIA mind control.
11) North American Union
12) Someone else wrote Shakespeare's plays.
13) The disappearance of Shergar.
14) Paul McCartney died in 1966.
15) July 7, 2005 Tube Bombings - Done by Brits.
16) Russia bombed the Moscow Apartments in 1999.
17) UN patrols with Black Helicopters.
18) Harold Wilson was a Soviet Agent.
19) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
20) The oil industry is hiding huge amounts of oil to keep prices high.
21) Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen by a knowing US.
22) The Philadelphia Experiment.
23) Pan Am Flight 103 was downed with CIA involvment
24) Fluoridation continues for reasons other than dental health.
25) India caused the 2004 Tsunami with nukes.
26) FEMA has 1/2 million coffins, has set up concentration camps, and is preparing for martial law.
27) HAARP
28) AIDS was created in a labratory.
29) Global Warming is an intentional hoax.
30) Some contrails from planes are Chemtrails, spreading chemicals for nefarious purposes.

A few that I've heard from several people:
1) We can easily make 100mpg cars, but the oil companies suppress the technology.
2) Bush stole the election (either one). The claims that he'll use martial law to stay in power seem to be fading.

So what big conspiracies do you hear about? Which of the conspiracies listed are actually true?
 
The thought that 911 was instrumented by our own government is ridiculous.
 
None of them are true. People who believe in conspiracy theories are idiots.
 
Elvis is not dead, he just went back to his home planet.... :rolleyes:
 

The Telegraph recently posted an article listing the 30 biggest conspiracy theories of all time.

The conspiracies that they listed are:

1) 9/11 was an inside job or that the US knew and allowed it.--I don't know about "allowed" but I think they knew "something" was coming
2) The Kennedy assassination was not just Oswald.--agree
3) A extraterrestrial crashed in Roswell in 1947.--agree
4) NASA faked the moon landings.-no they did not
5) The Illuminati and the New World Order--agree
6) Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a child.--agree
7) Diana was murdered.--agree
8) Elvis faked his death.--no
9) Operation Northwoods.--Don't know what this is about
10) MK-Ultra - CIA mind control.--Don't know what this is about
11) North American Union--don't know what this is about
12) Someone else wrote Shakespeare's plays.--happens all the time now-why not then
13) The disappearance of Shergar.--who?
14) Paul McCartney died in 1966.-???
15) July 7, 2005 Tube Bombings - Done by Brits.-??
16) Russia bombed the Moscow Apartments in 1999.-???
17) UN patrols with Black Helicopters.-??
18) Harold Wilson was a Soviet Agent.--??
19) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.-???
20) The oil industry is hiding huge amounts of oil to keep prices high.--OPEC is
21) Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen by a knowing US.--the US DID know about an iminent attack but it was so 'secret' that the people needing to know about it found out too late--that is proven information
22) The Philadelphia Experiment.--??
23) Pan Am Flight 103 was downed with CIA involvment--I saw the original footage-there is definatly something going TOWARD the airplane-they took that off the air very quickly after that
24) Fluoridation continues for reasons other than dental health.--what reasons??
25) India caused the 2004 Tsunami with nukes.--um, ok, doubt it
26) FEMA has 1/2 million coffins, has set up concentration camps, and is preparing for martial law.--for what???
27) HAARP-no idea what this is
28) AIDS was created in a labratory.--probably--who knows
29) Global Warming is an intentional hoax.--tough one
30) Some contrails from planes are Chemtrails, spreading chemicals for nefarious purposes.--um, ok, doubt it

A few that I've heard from several people:
1) We can easily make 100mpg cars, but the oil companies suppress the technology.
2) Bush stole the election (either one). The claims that he'll use martial law to stay in power seem to be fading.

So what big conspiracies do you hear about? Which of the conspiracies listed are actually true?
 
here's another one:


The government blew up the levees in the 9th ward- NOLA during Katrina...People even have "reports" of explosions.....hummmm :confused3
 
The Telegraph recently posted an article listing the 30 biggest conspiracy theories of all time.

The conspiracies that they listed are:

1) 9/11 was an inside job or that the US knew and allowed it.--I don't know about "allowed" but I think they knew "something" was coming

Since there had been several prior attacks, including one on the World trade Center, it's easy to say they knew "something" was coming. Just not something specific.

2) The Kennedy assassination was not just Oswald.--agree

The history channel is just the latest to debunk that conspiracy theory

3) A extraterrestrial crashed in Roswell in 1947.--agree

The problem with this and virtually any other government-related conspiracy theory is that you expect the government, composed of two competing political parties that are continually at war with each other and go out of their way to either embarrass the other side or build their side up, to keep something like that a secret.

5) The Illuminati and the New World Order--agree

Can you say tinfoil hat? :laughing:

6) Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a child.--agree

Using a work of fiction to corroborate your bias against a particular religion isn't pretty.

7) Diana was murdered.--agree

File this under the same explanation about governments as the Roswell, Kennedy, whatever government-related conspiracy theories.

9) Operation Northwoods.--Don't know what this is about

It was a plan to stage terror attacks on American citizens and blame it on the Cuban government so we could then invade cuba. This is true and a validation of the "you can't keep a secret in government" answers above.

11) North American Union--don't know what this is about

Think NAFTA only with a government

13) The disappearance of Shergar.--who?

A famous racehorse

14) Paul McCartney died in 1966.-???

A famous conspiracy at the time, obviously not true to the lasting relief of many British tabloid writers who would be otherwise unemployed

15) July 7, 2005 Tube Bombings - Done by Brits.-??

It depends on your definition of "Brits", since the people who carried it out were british born and raised.

16) Russia bombed the Moscow Apartments in 1999.-???

We'll probably never know. totalitarian governments don't have the same leak problems democratically elected ones do.
18) Harold Wilson was a Soviet Agent.--??

Former British Prime Minister

19) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.-???

This has already been exposed as a forgery
20) The oil industry is hiding huge amounts of oil to keep prices high.--OPEC is

Of course they are, that is in their best interest. Wanting to get the best price for your product is not a conspiracy
22) The Philadelphia Experiment.--??

If you could make ships invisible why hide that? They didn't hide the Stealth bomber, did they?

24) Fluoridation continues for reasons other than dental health.--what reasons??

Well if you produce and distribute Fluoride you'd have millions of reasons :laughing: Some scientists oppose mass medication for reasons such as:

There are other ways of delivering fluoride besides the water supply;
Fluoride does not need to be swallowed to prevent tooth decay;
Tooth decay has dropped at the same rate in countries with, and without, water fluoridation;
People are now receiving fluoride from many other sources besides the water supply;
Studies indicate fluoride’s potential to cause a wide range of adverse, systemic effects

etc., etc., etc.

26) FEMA has 1/2 million coffins, has set up concentration camps, and is preparing for martial law.--for what???

Because George Bush doesn't like black people :rolleyes1

27) HAARP-no idea what this is

High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program -- some claim it can be used as a weapon

29) Global Warming is an intentional hoax.--tough one

So is global cooling. Wanting a safe environment is one thing, creating hysteria for political gain and/or personal profit is a different animal altogether.
 
None of them are true. People who believe in conspiracy theories are idiots.

As is anyone who believes everything the government and media assures them is true. Sorry, there is a place for conspiracy theorists, even if some of them are a bit crazy.

13) The disappearance of Shergar.--who?

How is this a conspiracy? He was a highly valued stud horse who was kidnapped by people who knew his value and, very likely, ended up as glue. Now you want a real racehorse conspiracy theory, take a look at the story of the great Australian hero Phar Lap.

Also, what about the conspiracy theories behind Flight 900 (I think). The one out of New York they thought was shot down with a rocket. That should be on here somewhere.
 
the reason they're called "theories" is that they are unproven.
 
The thought that 911 was instrumented by our own government is ridiculous.

I recently had a conversation with a college student who wholeheartedly believes that the powers that be instrumented the attack. She seemed to be pretty intelligent, so I was surprised to hear that she believes this.
 
Since there had been several prior attacks, including one on the World trade Center, it's easy to say they knew "something" was coming. Just not something specific.

::yes:: I agree with this.


Using a work of fiction to corroborate your bias against a particular religion isn't pretty.

A lot of the "facts" in the Dan Brown books are pulled out of his imagination, but I had heard stuff about this long before "The DaVince Code". I seem to recall some of the info found in the Dead Sea Scrolls pointing this way, before the Pope had them declared heresey.
 
As is anyone who believes everything the government and media assures them is true. Sorry, there is a place for conspiracy theorists, even if some of them are a bit crazy.

It's not an either/or situation. You can have a healthy sense of skepticism about the media and the government and understand that none of these theories are true.

There is a place for conspiracy theorists who honestly, truly believe in these. They need to be medicated and under psychiatric care.
 
It's not an either/or situation. You can have a healthy sense of skepticism about the media and the government and understand that none of these theories are true.

There is a place for conspiracy theorists who honestly, truly believe in these. They need to be medicated and under psychiatric care.

Or living in the dessert in a trailer with 50 cats like the moon landing ding dong!
 
The Telegraph recently posted an article listing the 30 biggest conspiracy theories of all time.

The conspiracies that they listed are:

1) 9/11 was an inside job or that the US knew and allowed it.--I don't know about "allowed" but I think they knew "something" was coming
2) The Kennedy assassination was not just Oswald.--agree
3) A extraterrestrial crashed in Roswell in 1947.--agree
4) NASA faked the moon landings.-no they did not
5) The Illuminati and the New World Order--agree
6) Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a child.--agree
7) Diana was murdered.--agree
8) Elvis faked his death.--no
9) Operation Northwoods.--Don't know what this is about
10) MK-Ultra - CIA mind control.--Don't know what this is about
11) North American Union--don't know what this is about
12) Someone else wrote Shakespeare's plays.--happens all the time now-why not then
13) The disappearance of Shergar.--who?
14) Paul McCartney died in 1966.-???
15) July 7, 2005 Tube Bombings - Done by Brits.-??
16) Russia bombed the Moscow Apartments in 1999.-???
17) UN patrols with Black Helicopters.-??
18) Harold Wilson was a Soviet Agent.--??
19) The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.-???
20) The oil industry is hiding huge amounts of oil to keep prices high.--OPEC is
21) Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen by a knowing US.--the US DID know about an iminent attack but it was so 'secret' that the people needing to know about it found out too late--that is proven information
22) The Philadelphia Experiment.--??
23) Pan Am Flight 103 was downed with CIA involvment--I saw the original footage-there is definatly something going TOWARD the airplane-they took that off the air very quickly after that
24) Fluoridation continues for reasons other than dental health.--what reasons??
25) India caused the 2004 Tsunami with nukes.--um, ok, doubt it
26) FEMA has 1/2 million coffins, has set up concentration camps, and is preparing for martial law.--for what???
27) HAARP-no idea what this is
28) AIDS was created in a labratory.--probably--who knows
29) Global Warming is an intentional hoax.--tough one
30) Some contrails from planes are Chemtrails, spreading chemicals for nefarious purposes.--um, ok, doubt it

A few that I've heard from several people:
1) We can easily make 100mpg cars, but the oil companies suppress the technology.
2) Bush stole the election (either one). The claims that he'll use martial law to stay in power seem to be fading.

So what big conspiracies do you hear about? Which of the conspiracies listed are actually true?
 


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