Trash will now be taken every day

This new policy is so intrusive as to force change behavior. Spouses won’t be able to go to the lounge while kids/spouse are napping because the latch can’t be left undone. Bathing? If you’re a single woman, would you take a shower during any reasonable time of day if alone? On and on.

This isn’t annoyance over waiting 10 more minutes to gain entry to MK. No.

When you tell your guests that they have no expectation of privacy in their rooms, it’s going to significantly alter their experience.

At the premium WDW charges to stay on property, my guess is this will have a real effect on the bottom line. If not now, when the economy is booming, then at the next downturn.

That’s the point. This isn’t a “one and done” negative publicity event. This is changing expectations of privacy going forward.

My guess is that, within six months, Disney finds a way to mitigate what they’ve just done.
 
This new policy is so intrusive as to force change behavior. Spouses won’t be able to go to the lounge while kids/spouse are napping because the latch can’t be left undone. Bathing? If you’re a single woman, would you take a shower during any reasonable time of day if alone? On and on.

There is very little difference between this and the level of access Disney--and every other hotelier--already has on a daily basis. All hotels have to contend with varying guest schedules when providing housekeeping and maintenance services.

In the examples above, if the "occupied" sign is left out there should be no issue...provided guests remove the sign for some period of time each day when they are not in the villa. Yes, I'm giving Disney the benefit of the doubt, assuming that they'd much rather check my room at 11am when the "occupied" sign has been removed and I'm at the park rather than 8am when the sign is up and I might showering or 3pm when I'm napping.
 
Perhaps, but the real impact is only going to be DVC reservations. The people on cash reservations will probably not notice any change whatsoever, as they get daily housekeeping anyway. And in truth, I doubt this will have a big impact on most DVC members, unless they happen to be in their room at the same time as the inspector/housekeeper. I remember when packages delivered from the parks were placed directly in our rooms and not delivered to the gift shops. It would be nice if they added that service back in, since they'll be entering our rooms anyway.

I think since our dues will go up for this extra "service" I want more than just my trash being taken out. Deliver our packages, make the bed, something.
 
There is very little difference between this and the level of access Disney--and every other hotelier--already has on a daily basis. All hotels have to contend with varying guest schedules when providing housekeeping and maintenance services.

In the examples above, if the "occupied" sign is left out there should be no issue...provided guests remove the sign for some period of time each day when they are not in the villa. Yes, I'm giving Disney the benefit of the doubt, assuming that they'd much rather check my room at 11am when the "occupied" sign has been removed and I'm at the park rather than 8am when the sign is up and I might showering or 3pm when I'm napping.

I haven't seen other hotels that I have stayed at to take away the do not disturb signs. What I have seen is if we have been there for a while, they knock on the door to see if we need fresh linens. (every so many days) I don't think a daily inspection is necessary, but they can do what they want.
 

I think since our dues will go up for this extra "service" I want more than just my trash being taken out. Deliver our packages, make the bed, something.

I think making beds would take too much time, and require even more people to be hired. Package delivery, on the other hand, only requires a quick stop at the resort store to pick up any packages they have, and they are usually already sorted by the store staff, so they would just need to sort by room number rather than name.
 
I haven't seen other hotels that I have stayed at to take away the do not disturb signs.

Signs aren't gone, rather the wording and intent has changed a bit.

Bottom line: I have to believe Disney would much rather check the room when you are not in it. If guests remove the door hanger before leaving for a theme park in the morning, nearly all will have their rooms checked by the time they return. No interruption whatsoever. The only time guests may be disturbed--thus the elimination of "Do Not Disturb" wording--is if the sign is displayed 24/7.

For DVC members, removing the sign is basically a way of saying "I'm out of the room...please come empty my trash and check the room now." Disney isn't looking for excuses to barge in on people showering or napping.
 
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I think making beds would take too much time, and require even more people to be hired. Package delivery, on the other hand, only requires a quick stop at the resort store to pick up any packages they have, and they are usually already sorted by the store staff, so they would just need to sort by room number rather than name.

maybe drop off a basket of linens? Something?
 
I know not everyone uses the WDW app, but wouldn't this be an easy way to let MS know that it was okay to check your room or let them know that you are napping and don't want to be disturbed. I in know the do not disturb sign is easier but this might be a way to go.
 
I fully agree with you.

The only thing I could possibly see them catching is maybe the possible room exceeding room occupancy and maybe the rare sad occurance of someone found dead in the room or suffering a health issue (i.e. heart attack, stroke and such). On the DVC side maybe one less stinky room...LOL

I really think catching room occupancy scofflaws will be the icing on their cake...moreso to tick off a security requirement as to insurance

The locks already tell them who/when has gained entrance to each room, helps to deter employee theft of items left unsecured

We shall see in January when we are there.

Of course, keeping the safety latch engaged doesn't work if one of the party is out of the room. If the snooping housekeeper is locked out, so is my husband. So when I am napping or showering he either has to stay put or keep out. No going back and forth.

And of course when we decide to have sex (lets be honest, that is what we will be doing) we will have to have the safety latch engaged AND stop what we are doing to let the snooping housekeeper know to come back later. Otherwise what will they do? Just leave us alone and pretend that they didn't stop by? Or will they let security know that we are suspicious because we won't let them into our room?

Perhaps the concept of the balcony club will morph over from cruise ships. JK OMG can you imagine?

Snooping housekeeper? IMO they tend to be like ninjas, do their job as quickly as possibly & leave.

Above their paygrade to expect them to pry/dig thru guest's personal belongings.

I'm thinking not only has Vegas raised concerns, but it has insurance companies running scared. Daily "room monitoring" for lack of a better term, is likely going to be required by insurers at every hotel, motel and B&B when the policies roll over.

Willing to bet it's in the fine print of all hotels. It being the right to enter your room re security issues.

I think it has more to do with liability than security. As a previous poster said, they want to establish a daily visible and documentable staff presence. Possibly partially for insurance purposes.

I also don't see a lot of folks (at least those talking about it online) cancelling their reservations yet.



He spend three days in the suite, and the three previous days in a different room. News accounts say the housekeepers came into the suite, but he had hidden whatever parts of his arsenal he had in the room at the time. Didn't see anything that says how often he had housekeeping in.

People talk a lot negatively after this sort of thing happens, then typically, sigh & carry on

There is very little difference between this and the level of access Disney--and every other hotelier--already has on a daily basis. All hotels have to contend with varying guest schedules when providing housekeeping and maintenance services.

In the examples above, if the "occupied" sign is left out there should be no issue...provided guests remove the sign for some period of time each day when they are not in the villa. Yes, I'm giving Disney the benefit of the doubt, assuming that they'd much rather check my room at 11am when the "occupied" sign has been removed and I'm at the park rather than 8am when the sign is up and I might showering or 3pm when I'm napping.

I'd like to think the occupied sign would work as you describe, but not holding my breath.

Last trip to SSR on T&T day we left room @ 10 am for pool, came back a little after noon with the do not disturb sign out, removed it an hour later when we left for parks. Returned to room after midnight and dirty towels still in the tub.

Called & were informed they stopped & sign was out. I insisted they bring us clean towels. Half hour later a tap on the door, handed a 6 inch stack of wash clothes & 2 towels. Had to laugh about it. To their credit we did get clean ones in the am.
 
If guests avoid the habit of leaving the "Occupied" sign up 24/7, I think there will be few issues. The overwhelming majority of Disney hotel guests visit the theme parks, pool or restaurants for several hours each day. When the sign is down, staff members will discretely make their checks. I'm sure there's a huge window of time between (approx) 10am - 1pm each day when most rooms are empty. They only need a couple minutes per room.

If the sign is left up all day--or guests actually do remain in the room--there are logical times when staff members are likely to avoid napping adults & children. I'd say somewhere in the 5pm - 8pm range would be ideal.

If you know you aren't going to be leaving the room all day or have an unusual sleep schedule, speak to a staff member and make arrangements.
There may be some initial learning curve but (IMO) the ones who are likely to encounter the most frustration are those who choose to fight the process.

I, like many others, simply do not want anyone in my room unless it an emergency or requested. I've been a member for 25 years and currently visit about 30 days a year. My family and I aren't threats. After sanitizing the room upon entry, always removing the trash daily, and always cancelling maid service, I don't want my space invaded. Members, particularly those with a long history such as mine, should be allowed to waive the daily entry requirement.
 
Morning news is reporting that MK resorts are getting daily security checks no info from Disney if others will follow.

:earsboy: Bill

MK resorts have become ridiculous. Room security checks. Monorail security checks every time you get on and off, and if you go to EPCOT from a monorail resort, you are now checked twice. What's next, strip searches?
 
MK resorts have become ridiculous. Room security checks. Monorail security checks every time you get on and off, and if you go to EPCOT from a monorail resort, you are now checked twice. What's next, strip searches?

And yet Disney World is known worldwide, something that bad people everywhere hate. It is open to anybody who pays their way. It has somehow gone almost 50 years without any major issue. This includes not only terrorist threats, but also someone who was upset that he was cut in line pulling a gun on someone. With tens of millions of guests per year, that seems like a minor miracle.
They are doing a great job with security. Their decisions are a bit intrusive to us law abiding citizens, but they are being made with the intention of keeping everyone safe so that we can enjoy our vacations.
 
I, like many others, simply do not want anyone in my room unless it an emergency or requested. I've been a member for 25 years and currently visit about 30 days a year. My family and I aren't threats. After sanitizing the room upon entry, always removing the trash daily, and always cancelling maid service, I don't want my space invaded. Members, particularly those with a long history such as mine, should be allowed to waive the daily entry requirement.

The Las Vegas shooter was a frequent guest of the hotel, staying in a comped suite at Mandalay Bay where he often gambled. This guest--who was similarly well known and had a history with the hotel--brought 23 firearms into his room and murdered 58 people.

Many of us know that we do not pose any threat, but Disney cannot afford to make exceptions. Doing so would not only open them up to claims of favoritism and profiling, but potentially overlook those who are legitimate threats. Like it or not, we aren't living in the 1950s. The Disney theme parks and resorts are VERY visible targets and I don't think it's unrealistic to assert that their security measures--even those which seem like theater--are exactly why guests have not fallen victim to some terror attack.

"I'm not a threat..go bother someone else" isn't going to cut it.

As a society, we cannot stop living our lives due to a threat of terrorism. But specific to Walt Disney World, think for a moment about what would happen if some tragedy were allowed to occur. Not just the financial impact to The Walt Disney Company in the form of reduced tourism. Consider the impact on DVC ownership--people immediately looking to sell their points. Consider the impact on member dues as the company rushes to dramatically over compensate. God forbid something happened from a balcony at Bay Lake Tower, do you think guests would EVER be allowed to step outside again? Those balcony doors would be permanently bolted shut the next day.

Consider what sort of additional security measures they'd be obligated to implement at theme parks just to regain the public trust. A pipe bomb goes off in Tomorrowland; are people just supposed to accept that "if a bad person wants to hurt people, there's nothing you can do to stop it"???

MK resorts have become ridiculous. Room security checks. Monorail security checks every time you get on and off, and if you go to EPCOT from a monorail resort, you are now checked twice. What's next, strip searches?

Bit of a logical fallacy there. Metal detectors and visual checks are obviously not precursors to strip searches.
 
I, like many others, simply do not want anyone in my room unless it an emergency or requested. I've been a member for 25 years and currently visit about 30 days a year. My family and I aren't threats. After sanitizing the room upon entry, always removing the trash daily, and always cancelling maid service, I don't want my space invaded. Members, particularly those with a long history such as mine, should be allowed to waive the daily entry requirement.

I hear you, so much for Welcome Home!
 
I really wasn't going to jump in on this thread again...but.... I was thinking on it and recall that whenever we do the 10 plus day vacations, we usually handle our trash and have the do not disturb sign out. After one or two days past the trash and towel, we always get a phone message asking to call if we need service. So this tells me they do track this and obviously have some sort of awareness. I have not thought this out completely, but maybe that should be the benchmark for the knock on the door. Again folks....have not thought it out completely..
 

It will blow over.

The other thing is that this doesn't affect the hotel side - where daily housekeeping is expected - as much as the DVC side. And we are - as has been said every time a change is made that creates dissatisfaction - a captive audience. DVCers customer satisfaction has a very indirect relationship to Disney's bottom line. Because you are going to do what, exactly? Not use your points and let them have the breakage income? Sell or rent them to someone else who will use them and spend at Disney?
 
It will blow over.

The other thing is that this doesn't affect the hotel side - where daily housekeeping is expected - as much as the DVC side. And we are - as has been said every time a change is made that creates dissatisfaction - a captive audience. DVCers customer satisfaction has a very indirect relationship to Disney's bottom line. Because you are going to do what, exactly? Not use your points and let them have the breakage income? Sell or rent them to someone else who will use them and spend at Disney?

I agree, they do not care.
 
I agree, they do not care.

I'm looking forward to an upcoming ticket price increase. I love hearing the "Walt is rolling in his grave right now" comments that always come with them. Like clockwork, these changes are announced, people complain, the changes get made anyway, and Disney keeps on making money.
 
I really wasn't going to jump in on this thread again...but.... I was thinking on it and recall that whenever we do the 10 plus day vacations, we usually handle our trash and have the do not disturb sign out. After one or two days past the trash and towel, we always get a phone message asking to call if we need service. So this tells me they do track this and obviously have some sort of awareness. I have not thought this out completely, but maybe that should be the benchmark for the knock on the door. Again folks....have not thought it out completely..
I always leave DND sign up for the duration. Couldn’t tell you if they called because I always unplug the phone first thing. And I never answer the door. Anybody who owns a timeshare elsewhere can tell you that those are prudent anti-marketing measures.

This borders on 4th amendment violations. If Disney wants to violate my privacy as a hotel, then they can’t also be the local government. There’s plenty of case law regarding hotels letting local governments into hotel rooms for warrentless searches. In this case, Disney is both. That’s a fine line to straddle.
 















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