Throwaway room (read post #2041 or #2710 before posting)

[mamabear0222]

You can. But you still need to pick up the Magic Bands in order to use the FP+ you booked in the parks.

Well that's useless for me lol thank you

 

[Networth]

To be fair they wouldn't likely get us back as customers onsite. We have done the onsite thing at AKLodge. Although we did enjoy the Lodge because of the animal viewing we were extremely disappointed in the level of service and the quality of accom. at that price point. If i'm spending those dollars I'm staying at the Ritz or a 4 seasons where the quality/service imho is higher. I understand those who want the ambiance of being onsite but the isn't as important to me as a luxury "feel" . Even the Hyatt Grand Cypress had a more luxurious feel to us than did akl. And before anyone suggests the Grand F. we went over for dinner on our last trip and although it was nice it was way too busy/zoo like to get the "feel" im talking about but keep in mind that this is just our tastes.

I get your sentiment about Ritz/Mandarin/Four Seasons prices. I felt the same way until a few trips ago until we stayed at the Grand Floridian. I do hate how the lobby fills up with non GF resort guest(being honest here) but they tend to leave around 8-9 pm. We may have to walk through the lobby in the morning but durning the day we are gone and we get to come back to our buteo flu resort when the hordes have gone.

I sometimes feel like an elitist snob when I get mad there is no where to sit in the hotel IM staying in's lobby because other non hotel guest have hogged the seats/ATM/Concierge etc. Than I remind myself I am spending a lot of money to stay at Disney's "flag ship" I have every right to be annoyed. Anyway my point was try the Grand it changed my opinion, just know that durning the day the lobby is a zooish but come night when you will head back it is only the resort guests lounging around.

**Another tip stay in the outer buildings if I want club I just stay in Sugar Loaf. The hordes don't venture/can't get into the outer buildings.

 

[maxiesmom]

There is a big difference between doing something illegal and something that some people just don't like

Not if Disney is the one who has the problem with it. Their resort, their rules, their thoughts on the matter are the ones that count.

Again, for one night I don't think there would be any repercussions. But at least twice that I remember Dis posters with longer stays have had problems leaving their rooms for a few days. It doesn't seem to be something that happens all of the time, but if Disney decides you have abandoned your room, they can take whatever steps they see fit. May be nothing. May be your lose your room and your dining credits. Totally up to them.

 

[skylizard]

Ok, this is what I thought. But everyone kept correcting me and telling me that anyone can use Disney transportation and, therefore, Disney transportation is not a perk for onsite guests. Based on what I, as an offsite guest would have to do in order to be able to use it, I say that it IS a perk for onsite guests.

Anyone CAN use disney transportation. There is nothing to keep a park guest from boarding a bus or monorail. There is no resort key card required or proof of onsite stay. No where on the bus or monorail does it say "for onsite guests only".

 

[jimmysmom74]

So I'm obviously wrong about the Disney transportation, as so many have pointed out. I can say I learned something today. So I have another question (and please do not take this as being sarcastic. I really just want to know the answer.): As an offsite guest, I can then park at a Disney resort and take Disney transportation to the parks? If this is true, then why would I pay $15 to park at the parks?

I see you got your answer, and it was a good question. Just to add, there is a time limit for how long you are allowed to park at a resort. There are signs and a guard that checks you at the gate. You need to be a guest, have a restaurant ADR , or be able to explain your business there that day. We went to boardwalk for the day to watch Sunday football once and they gave us a pass to put in car window, since many guests park and go to Epcot for the day. They can tow you in those circumstances. Not worth the risk for $15.

Also for those commenting on the campsites, I am surprised that Disney doesn't put some kind of minimum stay on sites if this such a problem. It sounds like it is not common for ppl to use a site for 1 day. I can understand your frustration.

 

[wordwitt]

Not if Disney is the one who has the problem with it. Their resort, their rules, their thoughts on the matter are the ones that count.

Again, for one night I don't think there would be any repercussions. But at least twice that I remember Dis posters with longer stays have had problems leaving their rooms for a few days. It doesn't seem to be something that happens all of the time, but if Disney decides you have abandoned your room, they can take whatever steps they see fit. May be nothing. May be your lose your room and your dining credits. Totally up to them.

I would sure like you to point us to these threads because I'm not finding anything like this after a site search and a Google search.

 

[CiCiBee]

I do think this is something that Disney will catch onto. As said previously, you paid for the site it's yours.

But again, with campsites it's a bit different. There are many 100's of value rooms, as opposed to very few tent/popup sites. FW will soon see a decrease in sales elsewhere due to this. Campers tend to spend a bit more time just relaxing and enjoying The Fort, and they spend money while doing this. Be it renting golf carts from FW, eating at Trail's End, having a drink at The Tavern, or a snack by the pool. Shoot, people buy bags of ice at $2 a bag, especially in the tent sites.
When throwaway sites are being used none of these activities are being done, therefore Disney is missing out on money.

Again, once the dust is cleared, Disney will make changes so that stuff like this cannot happen, and its going to be the few rotten eggs that make changes for everyone else that are just trying to get along.

 

[mamabear0222]

Not if Disney is the one who has the problem with it. Their resort, their rules, their thoughts on the matter are the ones that count.

Again, for one night I don't think there would be any repercussions. But at least twice that I remember Dis posters with longer stays have had problems leaving their rooms for a few days. It doesn't seem to be something that happens all of the time, but if Disney decides you have abandoned your room, they can take whatever steps they see fit. May be nothing. May be your lose your room and your dining credits. Totally up to them.

So if I'm staying onsite and decide to go to the beach for a few days and leave my room they can purge my stuff because they think I've abandoned it? Last I checked if I paid for it, It's mine for the duration. I'd be raising a major stink if that happened. I should not have to tell them my every move!

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[Luckybee]

We camp (with 2 kids), and if we are traveling somewhere (in fact on our way to Disney and back later this month) we often stay one night somewhere.

And even more often, we do a weekend somewhere (Fri & Sat night).

And long weekends, Fri - Tues would fit fine with a person who has a Wed only stay somewhere.

Again, if a person pays for a site, who am I to care whether they sleep there or not, as long as they pay for it. They reserved it before I did. First come, first serve. (Having FP arguments flashbacks....aye)

There are plenty of campgrounds that require 2 night stays on weekends and 3 night stays on holiday weekends. If FW sees this as a problem, they can always go that route.

I haven't camped in yrs (about 15) since dh and I have been married since he takes the position that he'll be happy to go camping once camp sites have room service and turndown . That said when I did camp it was mainly a weekend or overnight thing. Even back then I remember going up north in the summer where we'd have to book a minimum number of nights during high season in order to get a spot. If this is such a problem at D already ie prior to the fp stuff, does anyone know why D isn't doing this ?

 

[Laketravis]

"Entering the contest using multiple e-mail addresses on a single day is against the rules." and "I 'know' by the way some posters post that they're breaking the rules by using multiple e-mail addresses."

First statement is fact; second is unsubstantiated and seemingly intended only to misdirect from the actual topic.

Hold that thought for a second......

"Entering the contest using multiple e-mail addresses on a single day is against the rules." and "I 'know' by the way some posters post that they're breaking the rules by using multiple e-mail addresses."

First statement is fact; second is unsubstantiated and seemingly intended only to misdirect from the actual topic.

Oh, okay. So you know for a fact that nobody has entered a Disney contest multiple times a day by using different email addresses? Because, as you pointed out, that would be a clear violation of the rules.

I think we agree on the first point. But you sound totally confident that anybody with a "high level" of moral standards applies those standards consistently and equally to every situation they encounter, regardless of the potential for personal gain. On that point, I disagree.

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

Disney will make changes so that stuff like this cannot happen, and its going to be the few rotten eggs that make changes for everyone else that are just trying to get along.

So the change that Disney would make to keep this from happening would be to require at least a 2 day minimum stay. So who would this change be hurting? We are only rotten eggs is we pay for a 1 night stay at a campsite and don't sleep in it but we are okay if we pay for a 1 night stay at a campsite and sleep on it?? Both groups have done the exact same thing. Kept that campsite from someone that may have wanted to move in that day and stay for more than one night.

 

[kaytieeldr]

I haven't camped in yrs (about 15) since dh and I have been married since he takes the position that he'll be happy to go camping once camp sites have room service and turndown . That said when I did camp it was mainly a weekend or overnight thing. Even back then I remember going up north in the summer where we'd have to book a minimum number of nights during high season in order to get a spot. If this is such a problem at D already ie prior to the fp stuff, does anyone know why D isn't doing this ?

Try here http://www.pawsup.com// or here http://www.elcapitancanyon.com/

The first one comes with a butler and a chef for each unit. If those don't work for him, just Google luxury campgrounds.

 

[kaytieeldr]

Hold that thought for a second......



Oh, okay. So you know for a fact that nobody has entered a Disney contest multiple times a day by using different email addresses? Because, as you pointed out, that would be a clear violation of the rules.

I think we agree on the first point. But you sound totally confident that anybody with a "high level" of moral standards applies those standards consistently and equally to every situation they encounter, regardless of the potential for personal gain. On that point, I disagree.

I don't know - but then I'm not the person repeatedly accusing people of violating contest rules with absolutely no proof.

eta: comments on the Disney Vacation contest are based on only (a) tge quoted poster's repeated accusations and (b) general knowledge of sweepstakes rules

 

[Laketravis]

I don't know - but then I'm not the person repeatedly accusing people of violating contest rules with absolutely no proof.

I'm simply responding to the repeated accusations by others that paying for a resort accommodation that they don't "use" is breaking some sort of lodging rule or moral guideline.

At least my standpoint is consistent

 

[Sur]

Man, that sure sounds like a lot of work. I think for a few bucks more I'd just get a room

It's not a few bucks. When you get older and have some children, you'll see how costs really add up. I'm not in disagreement with your point on the OP topic, but your method of making it just discredits you (to me) on heeding your advice...nothing personal.

 

[CiCiBee]

So the change that Disney would make to keep this from happening would be to require at least a 2 day minimum stay. So who would this change be hurting? We are only rotten eggs is we pay for a 1 night stay at a campsite and don't sleep in it but we are okay if we pay for a 1 night stay at a campsite and sleep on it?? Both groups have done the exact same thing. Kept that campsite from someone that may have wanted to move in that day and stay for more than one night.

The change that they would make would be to only make the MB and FP+ active for the length of stay.
That is what this whole post is about, booking it just to get the MB so that they can activate it for their entire stay but only pay for one night.

And although at most campsites, people are traveling and staying a night here and a night there, Disney is the destination, meaning people stay put a bit longer. They are not just pitching a tent and packing up in the morning. Don't know if you have ever been to The Fort, but maybe check it out. The setups are a bit more elaborate and people make a grand stay of it.

 

[Missyrose]

The change that they would make would be to only make the MB and FP+ active for the length of stay.
That is what this whole post is about, booking it just to get the MB so that they can activate it for their entire stay but only pay for one night.

And although at most campsites, people are traveling and staying a night here and a night there, Disney is the destination, meaning people stay put a bit longer. They are not just pitching a tent and packing up in the morning. Don't know if you have ever been to The Fort, but maybe check it out. The setups are a bit more elaborate and people make a grand stay of it.

With all the issues Disney has had with the technology/Web site, I really don't think they can have some people's MBs deactivate after the ticket is used up (for MYW tickets), while leaving MBs with APs on them active.

Plus, doesn't the FAQ say people can re-use the MBs on multiple trips if people want to?

 

[Laketravis]

It's not a few bucks. When you get older and have some children, you'll see how costs really add up. I'm not in disagreement with your point on the OP topic, but your method of making it just discredits you (to me) on heeding your advice...nothing personal.

I'm 53 and have kids - how much older do I need to get? And I've trailered cabin cruisers on my own, setup fifth-wheels on my own, I'm no stranger to boat ramps, campgrounds, marinas, and other "space use" oriented situations.

It is that experience that provides me with the belief that when someone feels they've somehow been screwed out of a campsite because somebody else who reserved and paid for it didn't utilize it in a manner that other party deems acceptable, it's simply due to an unfulfilled sense of entitlement.

Nothing personal, of course.

 

[Dizfan4life]

Man, that sure sounds like a lot of work. I think for a few bucks more I'd just get a room

Not really, the size of my fifth wheel is bigger than a room at a Moderate resort plus we get our own beds and the kids have their own space in the back bunkhouse!

 

[mom2mickeyfan]

The change that they would make would be to only make the MB and FP+ active for the length of stay.

But isn't that what everyone is upset about? That people are in fact making a reservation for 1 or 2 nights and getting FP+s for the length of their ticket instead of the length of their stay. I was assuming that that is what they wanted. For you to only be able to pre-book FP+s for the length of your stay no matter what kind of ticket you had. It sounds like they would welcome this change. And if no one did this then Disney would not need to make a change (not that I believe Disney has any problem with someone doing this, as a few have reported) then it would be a non issue because no one is doing it.