Thoughts on driving straight thru

CarolA

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As some of you know, I have posted in the past that I think driving excessive amounts of time to get to Disney is risky and dangerous. I would ask you to read the following article and ask yourself if getting to Disney early is worth it. I can gurantee the young man discussed in the article would rather have had his family alive then to be dealing with his loss after the tragic accident caused by driver fatigue.....

As I read the article it is fairly evident that seatbelts were not being worn. A friend of mine just lost her mother and uncle in an accident that was surviveable if they had just worn their seatbelts. Such a waste.

Jones shares details of family tragedy
By MIKE GRIFFITH, knsgriff@aol.com
November 18, 2003

Tennessee defensive tackle Greg Jones is living a nightmare.

Jones said he has slept for only four hours over the past three days since learning of the tragic single-car accident on a desolate stretch of Interstate 65 near Greenville, Ala. The accident, which occurred at 2:19 a.m. CST, killed his 23-year-old pregnant sister, Naytala Durr, and involved seven other members of Jones' family.


His mother, Phyllis Muhammad; his grandmother, Zenora Lewis; his cousin, Chris Hall; and his niece, Anyiah Durr were hospitalized in Alabama.

At press time, Lewis was in the neuro-intensive care unit at UAB Hospital in Birmingham after undergoing brain surgery Monday.

Jones' niece, 6-year-old Anyiah, is on life support in the pediatric intensive care unit at Children's Hospital in Birmingham.

Jones said his mother suffered a broken arm and injuries to both knees, all of which required surgery at a Montgomery hospital.

Jones said his cousin, Chris Hall, who was driving, had an ear surgically re-attached and suffered damage to the top of his skull as the result of his head going through the sun roof when the vehicle flipped. Jones said Hall also had surgery to repair a fractured spine. Hall was released Monday.

Jones said three of the occupants in the Ford Explorer survived the wreck relatively unscathed: two cousins, girls ages 13 and 8, and Jones' youngest niece, an 8-month-old.

As Jones understands it, the accident happened after his cousin fell asleep at the wheel and the car veered onto the shoulder of the road.

"My grandmother was in the passenger seat and felt him going over the rumble strips,'' Jones said. "He had his cruise on 75 (mph), and my grandmother, as she felt him in the rumble strips, she tried to steer back into the lane . they lost control and it began to flip.''

Jones said both his cousin and his mother said the vehicle flipped six times. Five of the passengers - including his sister - were ejected.

Jones said doctors aren't sure what killed his sister, who was 71/2 months pregnant, but they have speculated she died upon impact, perhaps of a heart attack.

Jones said his youngest niece, the 8-month-old, was located by her cries as she crawled in a pile of leaves. Jones said his mother had removed the 8-month-old from her car seat and placed her in her lap just prior to the accident.

Jones said it was going to be the second time his mother's side of the family had come to a UT game to see him play. Jones had regained the starting role at defensive tackle for the Mississippi State game as a result of Mondre Dickerson's suspension from the team.

Jones said he last talked with his grandmother at 1 a.m. Saturday. She had called to inform him that the family had just crossed the Alabama state line on the 10-hour trip to Knoxville. They left their homes, in the Gulfport, Miss., area, at approximately 11 p.m.

Jones tried to call them Saturday morning to check on their progress. Getting no answer, he assumed they were simply out of range.

One hour before kickoff, Jones got a phone call from his father, Greg Jones Sr., who now lives in Jonesboro, Ark., with Jones' stepmother.
 
Very important post!!!! Last winter my MIL was involved in an accident when she fell asleep at the wheel. She also had her cruise control on. If she had not had it on as she fell asleep her car would have slowed and slowly went into a ditch. Because her cruise control was on she flew over the ditch and hit a snow bank at 60 mph, totaling her car. She is lucky to be alive.

PLEASE PLEASE everyone wear your seat belts, keep your precious children in their car seats, don't drive when you are tired and use your cruise control with caution. Accidents like these could be prevented.
 
I agree -- it is VERY dangerous to drive for too many hours! Definitely not worth the time/money saved by not spending the night somewhere! It is worth it to stop and get some sleep, even 5-6 hours, to recharge. Getting to Disney 6 hours later is so much better than never getting there at all!

I drove straight through from Pittsburgh to Orlando ONE time, when I was in college and living in Orlando at the time. Around Jacksonville I started to "zone out" and was doing all I could to stay awake -- loud music, windows all the way down (in January), singing, you name it. I can't believe I was SO STUPID! :guilty:

I would NEVER do that again, and certainly not with loved ones in the car with me!
 
The other details I have seen indicate the family did not leave until late Friday due to work schedules. The poor football player has been quoted as saying he wished they had just stayed home and watched him play on TV. The school has established a fund to help with medical expenses and stuff, but.....
 

As some of you know, I have posted in the past that I think driving excessive amounts of time to get to Disney is risky and dangerous. I would ask you to read the following article and ask yourself if getting to Disney early is worth it.
Do you consider driving less than 3.5 hours to be driving an excessive amount of time?
 
Not if you are not fatigued, but apparently after working all day it can be. I mean if you start your trip at 11 PM and you got up at 7 am, you have already had a 16 hour day. Now you drive three hours. You have been up 20 hours...... I see lots of these ideas posted. People want to leave after work and drive all night so the kiddies sleep, etc... My concern is that the kiddies won't be the only one's sleeping.

Even if you rest during the day, unless your body is used to being up all night (i.e., night shift work) I don't think you will be that alert around 1 in the morning.

Now this is just my belief, but I really dread the day I read one of these horror stories about a DIS member.
 
My policy is I get there when I get there. I do not be in a hurry. I would never leave drive through the night. Because I know I would fall a sleep.

I know Ihave a 10 hour drive. I leave at 7:00am. so i can get there before dark.

I am a firm believe that seat belts saves lives. Because it save my life. When I hit a telephone pole.
 
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When I was young, and foolish, I would drive through the night. I've never fallen asleep, but I've come close enough that it scared sense into me, and I won't ever drive through the night again.

As others have pointed out, it's not the time spent on the road, it's the exhaustion. Which can come at any time, day or night. Anytime someone says they are driving through the night, I worry *A Lot*.

Because from personal experience, the hours from midnight to dawn are horrible to drive. No traffic to keep your attention, and most of us are used to working the day or evening shift, so our bodies are conditioned to shut down after a certain hour. (Obviously, if you work the graveyard shift, YMMV)

Absolutely do *not* push through the night. It's just not worth it. Get a hotel room, or if you must, pull into a truck stop for a few hours. Even a few hours of sleep can be the difference between life and death.
 
I fell asleep once while driving. Luckily scrapping a snow bank woke me up.

When you fall asleep, you don't know you did.

I was feeling tired, but not that much, so I thought.
 
I remember one of the news shows (Dateline, I think) did a show on the dangers of driving drunk vs. driving tired, and they showed very little difference, if any the sleep deprived drivers were a little worse.
 
CarolA and others have summed up the thoughts I had pretty well when I asked my question earlier about driving time. There are many variables which come into play.

To accuse someone of putting their family members' lives in jeopardy based solely on the time spent on the road is wrong. :guilty: Pointing out the factors which can tire a person out and the possible consequences from driving while fatigued is good. ::yes::
 
The first thing to go with both drinking and fatigue is your sense of judgement. Everybody thinks they will be able to tell when they are too drunk or too tired to drive, but they can't, because their judgement is already blurred. The result is too often disaster. So keep it simple:
-- If you've been drinking ANY amount, don't drive.
-- Decide IN ADVANCE how long you're sure you can drive safely, then stop regardless of how you think you feel.
 
maybe I am missing something but if there were 8 people in the car for a 10 hr drive unless most were kids they would have only had to drive a few hrs each. we have usually driven at night before since the traffic is much lighter but we always drove in shifts and had someone else awake with the driver. If you drive when you are over tired, enough to fall asleep at the wheel, that is probably not your only problem, you probably are not a safe driver to begin with.
 
The last time we drove from MA, my sister and I drove straight through. Stupid, stupid, stupid thing to do!

By the time we arrived at our hotel, it was after 2AM and I had been up for over 36 hours. I thought it wouldn't bother me because I worked at a group home and was used to working overnight shifts. I couldn't have been more wrong. I didn't realize it at the time, but I was literally delirious from lack of sleep. So much so that I couldn't find my hotel room after checking in. We were wandering the halls aimlessly because we just couldn't figure out how to find our room. It was worse than being intoxicated.

I thought we were saving time since it was going to be a short trip and we didn't want to waste another day driving, but the next day ended up being a total waste anyway. We slept until noon and then forced ourselves to get up and "enjoy" the parks. Our schedules were off for the next couple of days and we didn't have as much fun as we would have if we were well-rested.

I look back on it and can't believe I was so irresponsible. I'll never make that mistake again!
 
Good drivers make mistakes just like bad drivers do, and a mistake in underestimating how tired you are is still a mistake. It can happen whether you are driving through the night, or driving home after a long day at work. Exhaustion is still exhaustion, and sometimes is unavoidable. I've seen it happen to very good drivers.

As to driving through the night, which is the topic of the post, it has more hazards than normal exhaustion because most of us work during the day/evening, and sleep at night.

No matter how you plan it, no matter how many drivers there are, if everyone has worked a long day, and every person that *could* drive has been up all day, they will *still* have a tendancy to fall asleep during the early morning shift.

Even with someone to talk to. A 30 second lapse in conversation while the passenger scrambles for another topic, could be those fatal 30 seconds needed.

Although, if you are driving and tired (no matter what time of day or night), having someone to talk to is invaluable. What's worked the best for me is either mind games (name the states and capitols, etc), or a "heated" topic (politics, religion, etc), if you *have* to drive tired.

I still hold that it's more than worth the price of a hotel to stop in the early evening to get a good night's sleep.
 
maybe I misunderstood cause I thought the op was talking about driving for excessive amounts of time to get there faster, rather than the time of day. then I guess it changed to the "time of day"..imo if you drive for an obsessive.. I mean excessive amount of time anytime I agree whole heartedly , not a good idea... but every one reacts differently to driving a few hours day or night eg my one daughter is in bed by 9 every night but can drive for hours during the day cause she loves to drive, the other does not even think of bed till 2-3 and so is wide awake no matter what she is doing at night, both having worked a full day. I can not sleep when someone is driving( or basically anytime else!) so I am awake the whole time day or night no matter what but do not see well at night so do not drive then ...hubby on the other hand could sleep anytime day or night and he is the one I dread to drive! so I guess I feel you can't make a pat statement...now if we were talking about people who drive while on cell phones...lol!

I have a sleep disorder and so read a lot about it ..interestingly enough most people ,espec. women, are sleep deprived every day and sleep 6 or less hrs a night...so you are taking your chances every time you drive any where!
 














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