The Running Thread - 2016

Not on topic but I believe you mentioned that you were going to run the Seashore 50k in December - registration opened this weekend just in case you weren't constantly checking it like me. :)
Yikes! Registration is open now. I was hoping for more time to wrap my head around the idea of finishing a 50k
 
I'm not a big fountain soda fan, but I do enjoy the Vanilla Diet Coke out of the every flavor machines. I do wish they would put out a Cherry Diet Coke, though (in cans). The lack of one has me drinking WAY too much Wild Cherry Diet Pepsi.

There is a Cherry Diet Coke! Personally, I'm hooked on Coke Zero now, any kind of Coke Zero. I've tried to cut down my soda intake to one per day. Whether that's one can or one fountain-sized drink ... But I also do coffee in the morning, so that doesn't leave much room for water. Thus, my dehydration issues. lol

Good choice on the 235! I hope you enjoy it! Here are a couple of quick tips to hopefully avoid some of the trial and error learning I went though with mine.

Before going on a run, make sure you have a solid heart icon for the HR monitor, otherwise it may not record HR during the run. I find it easiest to watch on the main HR screen before toggling over to the run activity.

Also be sure to completely customize the HR settings. Out of the box they are WAY out of whack. You'll need to manually enter all the following: resting HR, max HR, calc method (%HRR or % Max HR) and ranges for each HR Zone.

I just found where to update these items, but I have a question. How do I know, without knowing (lol) what to set my max HR at?

Confession: I'm a terrible swimmer. I hold my nose to go under water. I do not like getting water in my nose or eyes. I love just lazy floaty swimming. Maybe I need to take lessons too...I'm serious. :)

ME! ME! This is me too! lol

ATTQOTD (was this Friday?): I started doing virtual runs with the Hogwarts Running Club. 1. I love Harry Potter, 2. #irunforbling, 3. The medals are great. In the past, it has kept me going during training runs between races (see #2 above). The last few have been really long distances and those are not as satisfying for me, since I want to stick to my training plan. So, I'll save those medals for one of my actual races or something. I do like that their funds go to charity, though. I signed up for the RunDisney one, but I'm not sure I would again.

It's been way too hot here to run. I know, I'm a spoiled CA girl as many of you have it much worse than me. But I just can't bring myself to put on the gear when it's already 70s by 8 a.m. (that's early for me). It was 71 at 630 a.m. this morning. And southern CA just has NO clouds as a rule, I think. So with the sun blazing it just feels so much hotter than the temperature reads. I'm not sure how I'm going to keep training if it stays like this. I don't have a gym membership at the moment.
 
I'm so glad I didn't attempt running while I lived in DFW. I'm such a wuss when it comes to heat and humidity. I'm fairly certain I would have never made it past week 1 of my couch to 5k plan.

Yeah - the struggle is real right now. I don't mind doing short distance outside ... like, three miles is pretty much my max right now. Last summer, I did more - mostly in training for Disneyland and a local 10K and it just did not end up paying the dividends like I expected it to. Then I got hurt in July and really had to push my Dopey training back a while, so I avoided the summer altogether.

This time around, there's no way I can do that if I want to hit my goal time in Chicago. It will be easier when my husband gets back - he's been on the road since the start of the NBA Finals - because my three dogs are acting like school children out on summer vacation - once they're up, they're ready to play and goof off and they don't understand why their walk is happening so early and why I'm going back to bed and won't let them hang around the house barking at every person or plastic bag that blows by the front door. At least they'll have another human to

(BTW, @LSUlakes - I meant to tell you that he rode in the elevator with your pal Les Miles in Cleveland last week! Said he was a very tiny guy, but was nice!)

Yikes! Registration is open now. I was hoping for more time to wrap my head around the idea of finishing a 50k

@mbwhitti and I are toying with the idea of one next year, but it's going to be a real gametime decision.
 
There is a Cherry Diet Coke! Personally, I'm hooked on Coke Zero now, any kind of Coke Zero. I've tried to cut down my soda intake to one per day. Whether that's one can or one fountain-sized drink ... But I also do coffee in the morning, so that doesn't leave much room for water. Thus, my dehydration issues. lol

I'll have to keep my eyes open for Diet Cherry Coke, then. I've never seen it outside the every flavor fountain machines. Maybe it's a regional thing. Just to clarify, you're not referring to Cherry Coke Zero are you? I can't stand anything Coke Zero based, including the cherry, having tried it multiple times.

I just found where to update these items, but I have a question. How do I know, without knowing (lol) what to set my max HR at?

If you don't know your max HR from one of the experimental running methods out there, I'd just use the 225 - Age formula to calculate the estimated value and use that.
 

I just found where to update these items, but I have a question. How do I know, without knowing (lol) what to set my max HR at?

General rule is 220 - [your age], but that is pretty general and not accurate for many folks. For example, per the formula, I should have a max HR of 174, but I oftentimes see 187 or 188 at the end of a 5k race, so I use 188 as my max.

So, maybe start with the formula, and then update it once you experience an all-out effort of your own.
 
I'll have to keep my eyes open for Diet Cherry Coke, then. I've never seen it outside the every flavor fountain machines. Maybe it's a regional thing. Just to clarify, you're not referring to Cherry Coke Zero are you? I can't stand anything Coke Zero based, including the cherry, having tried it multiple times.

Well, I was pretty sure I had seen it before, but I did a Google search just to be sure and I did find that it exists ... ! So I am fairly confident. :) It could be regional though.
 
Not on topic but I believe you mentioned that you were going to run the Seashore 50k in December - registration opened this weekend just in case you weren't constantly checking it like me. :)

Ohhh! that's one of the races I want to do. thanks for the heads up.
 
BTW, @LSUlakes - I meant to tell you that he rode in the elevator with your pal Les Miles in Cleveland last week! Said he was a very tiny guy, but was nice!)

He is a very likeable person is what I am told. Never had the chance to meet him myself, but I did meet his brother a few years ago. They look very much alike. I'm looking forward to yelling at the TV already. It means cooler weather is on the way as well, which would be nice!
 
I guess that I am the only one who thinks that the chart is dangerous. The chart assumes that you are already fully acclimatized to the heat. If you are not and you try those paces you risk heat injury. Good information, but it needs some clarification.
 
Congrats on the new watch LSU. I really like my 235.

I guess that I am the only one who thinks that the chart is dangerous. The chart assumes that you are already fully acclimatized to the heat. If you are not and you try those paces you risk heat injury. Good information, but it needs some clarification.
I'm too lazy to force myself to run by a chart. I prefer to spend the summer months cursing myself for becoming old and slow. In October I'm almost always amazed by how much faster I magically become.
 
I'm too lazy to force myself to run by a chart. I prefer to spend the summer months cursing myself for becoming old and slow. In October I'm almost always amazed by how much faster I magically become.

There's really no need to run by a chart. Run by level of effort or heart rate. Either of those will slow you down automatically without you having to focus on a certain pace.
 
Well, if I thought my sleep schedule was crap before ... Marathon training in Texas during the summer is not doing a whole lot to help me.

To sleep at 1 a.m., up at 5:45 a.m. (ish) to run six miles this morning. Back home to feed the dogs, take them out for a walk before it becomes too oppressive (that's another mile to the daily mileage, by the way!), shower and then take a nap. Of course, I guess I was pretty tired today - my hour-long nap turned into a three-hour nap and now I've wasted half the day.

Here's hoping this gets easier ...

When I lived in Dallas I used to run in the evenings after work using 100 degrees as my cut off. If it was 100 or over, I skipped the run. 99 degrees and I went for it. I was younger and dumber then!

I think the early-wake-up-plus-nap plan is much better!:teeth:

On the plus side, I think I may be permanently acclimated to warm weather running. The heat here in the DC area definitely slows me down some but it's nothing compared to Texas!
 
Yikes! Registration is open now. I was hoping for more time to wrap my head around the idea of finishing a 50k

I think it usually sells out but I'm not sure how long it takes. Looks like they take around 330 and maybe 60 or so slots already gone.
 
QOTD: Today is the first official day of summer! With that in mind, I would like to share so information I was email from my local running store. I was recently reminded of it as I was a bit discouraged from my speed work session over the weekend.

ATTQOTD: Below is some information on the topic to consider.

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How Long Does It Take to Get Used to the Heat - to "acclimate"?
Exercise Physiology: Basis of Human Movement in Health and Disease
By Stanley P. Brown, Wayne C. Miller, Jane M. Eason
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So, How Much Water Do You Need?
Try this Hydration Calculator:
http://beverageinstitute.org/us/hydration-calculator/

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What About Salt?
Recently, Americans have been urged to pay more attention to their sodium intake. Decades ago, all foods seemed heavily salted. Then, a link between sodium intake and high blood pressure was discovered. Suddenly, "sodium - free" or "low sodium" products began flooding the consumer market. Certainly, to a degree, this is justified.
However, sodium is a required element for normal body functions. It is lost in sweat and urine and is replaced in the diet. The body has a remarkable ability to maintain sodium and water balance throughout a variety of conditions.
Longer runs and race challenge this survival mechanism.
In hot, humid conditions a large amount of sweat is lost, which can disturb sodium and water balance. Adequate hydration and sodium intake -- either via sports drinks or food -- becomes vitally important during long races.
Hyponatremia -- what is it?
Hyponatremia means a low concentration of sodium in the blood.
It is estimated that approximately 30% of the finishers of the Hawaii Ironman are both hyponatremic and dehydrated. The longer the training run or race, the greater the risk of hyponatremia.
It cannot be stressed enough that you have got to know what your needs are prior to race day. Rehearse your hydration, feeding, and salt strategy during your training sessions. There are so many variations between individuals that there is no single right answer.

Know what your body's' needs are:
  • Drink frequently to attempt to stay hydrated.
  • During a long, hot race, aim for a total sodium intake of approximately 1 gram per hour, as recommended by Doug Hiller, M.D. from experience with the Hawaii Ironman. Please note that this may not be appropriate for everyone.
  • During training, heat acclimatization, and for several days leading up to a big race make sure that you increase salt intake by 10 - 25 grams per day.
  • Sodium is also important for recovery.
  • Avoid aspirin, ibuprofen, or other anti-inflammatories, and acetaminophen during exercise, but especially during a race.
  • Check with your doctor if you have any health problems.
Thanks for posting this, it helps me to realize that I am not doing anything wrong when I have to slow down in the heat. It can get depressing when I feel like I am trying my best but I am going slower.
 
:thumbsup2 Yep! I run mine behind my neck, instead of in front, under my shirt, beneath one bra strap (locks the wire down), and out my arm hole if using an armband for my phone, or under my shirt all the way down if I'm putting my phone in a leg pocket. I never even notice the wire!



:rotfl:My pace isn't even on there! I can say, though, that my summer pace tends to be all over the place and is utterly dependent on how I'm doing with the heat on any given day. One day I may be 1:30 slower than winter pace, and another day I may be within :15 of a winter session. I go by feel and perceived effort and let the pace fall where it will. But I definitely feel better mid- to late-summer than I do in the first couple months (summer is basically April through Oct here); those first few really hot runs are just brutal, but after a while the heat starts to feel routine.

I did a much better job of pre-electrolyting last week and it paid off: Feels Like was over 90* before the sun even rose, but I rocked 7 miles more or less comfortably. Nuun the day before, morning of, and all through my run. Stopped to refill my water bottle twice and doused myself in the cool-ish water, too. Long "cool down" walk after, followed by some slow paddling in the pool, then several hours of re-hydrating in the AC. What I notice most about the long, hot summer runs is that they wipe me out in a way that cooler runs just don't. I almost never nap after long winter runs, but I really need them in summer.

I don't run in quite the heat you guys do down south but on the days when it's in the 90's and we have high humidity those runs knock me out. I get home and when I finally cool down it is all I can do to stay awake. When I run in the spring and fall I feel so refreshed after a run.


Well, if I thought my sleep schedule was crap before ... Marathon training in Texas during the summer is not doing a whole lot to help me.

To sleep at 1 a.m., up at 5:45 a.m. (ish) to run six miles this morning. Back home to feed the dogs, take them out for a walk before it becomes too oppressive (that's another mile to the daily mileage, by the way!), shower and then take a nap. Of course, I guess I was pretty tired today - my hour-long nap turned into a three-hour nap and now I've wasted half the day.

Here's hoping this gets easier ...

Keels, I don't think you told us how your interview went?


QOTD: Very interesting information. While I agree with John that you should run by feel or heart rate in the heat and not worry about the pace, I also agree with @MommaoffherRocker that it does feel good knowing you are supposed to be slower in the heat. As we know, the mental aspect of running is so huge so you don't want to start getting down on yourself for slower speeds when it is justified.
 
QOTD: What is the latest you ever decided to go out for a run?

ATTQOTD: 11:29 PM last night for 4 miles. I was working late trying to get to bottom of a huge mistake I made about 8 weeks ago that has just surfaced. I was hoping it was an error else where, but unfortunately the majority of the blame is on me. I did not rest well last night and feel sick to my stomach. I am not sure what is going to happen or how long its going to take but I don't see things working out for me.
 
QOTD: What is the latest you ever decided to go out for a run?

ATTQOTD: 11:29 PM last night for 4 miles. I was working late trying to get to bottom of a huge mistake I made about 8 weeks ago that has just surfaced. I was hoping it was an error else where, but unfortunately the majority of the blame is on me. I did not rest well last night and feel sick to my stomach. I am not sure what is going to happen or how long its going to take but I don't see things working out for me.

I think the latest I started was around 9:30pm (which for me is late since I'm normally in bed by 8:30-9pm). The earliest I've ever started a run was 3:00am.

Wishing you the best on your work issue. Hoping it's something you can work through and minimize the effects of the mistake.
 
QOTD: What is the latest you ever decided to go out for a run?

ATTQOTD: 11:29 PM last night for 4 miles. I was working late trying to get to bottom of a huge mistake I made about 8 weeks ago that has just surfaced. I was hoping it was an error else where, but unfortunately the majority of the blame is on me. I did not rest well last night and feel sick to my stomach. I am not sure what is going to happen or how long its going to take but I don't see things working out for me.

Probably about 10pm, but that was many, many years ago. I now almost never run in the evenings, although I will wake up pretty darn early to run.

As far as your work issue, I know how you feel - I have been there before. Not a good feeling, but as I remind myself, it's not the mistake but how you respond that shows the type of person you are. Plus, even though it seems huge at the time, in the long run, it may not be as big as you are thinking right now. As my wife asks, "is anybody going to die because of your mistake?" She is always good about keeping things in perspective.
 












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