The Running Thread - 2016

What type of headphones do you guys use to run in?

Any wireless headphone recommendations? I feel like I'm always getting caught up in the cords of my headphones, or they are falling out!


At the same time, I'm not looking to spend hundreds on headphones (and I do understand that you definitely get what you pay for with headphones)

I ordered some wireless from Amazon called Photive PH-BTE70 Wireless Bluetooth Earbuds back in January. They are great because you can mold them to fit your ear. I went through several until I found those. I have been missing them for the past month though- I'm pretty sure I left them on an airplane on our last trip, and my runs have not been the same without them!
 
QOTD: What is your position on virtual races?

ATTQOTD: I've never done one and don't have much interest, but think it's great for those who do enjoy them. I will admit to being tempted by the Harry Potter ones just because I love the medals. :)
 
QOTD: Today is the first official day of summer! With that in mind, I would like to share so information I was email from my local running store. I was recently reminded of it as I was a bit discouraged from my speed work session over the weekend.

ATTQOTD: Below is some information on the topic to consider.

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How Long Does It Take to Get Used to the Heat - to "acclimate"?
Exercise Physiology: Basis of Human Movement in Health and Disease
By Stanley P. Brown, Wayne C. Miller, Jane M. Eason
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So, How Much Water Do You Need?
Try this Hydration Calculator:
http://beverageinstitute.org/us/hydration-calculator/

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What About Salt?
Recently, Americans have been urged to pay more attention to their sodium intake. Decades ago, all foods seemed heavily salted. Then, a link between sodium intake and high blood pressure was discovered. Suddenly, "sodium - free" or "low sodium" products began flooding the consumer market. Certainly, to a degree, this is justified.
However, sodium is a required element for normal body functions. It is lost in sweat and urine and is replaced in the diet. The body has a remarkable ability to maintain sodium and water balance throughout a variety of conditions.
Longer runs and race challenge this survival mechanism.
In hot, humid conditions a large amount of sweat is lost, which can disturb sodium and water balance. Adequate hydration and sodium intake -- either via sports drinks or food -- becomes vitally important during long races.
Hyponatremia -- what is it?
Hyponatremia means a low concentration of sodium in the blood.
It is estimated that approximately 30% of the finishers of the Hawaii Ironman are both hyponatremic and dehydrated. The longer the training run or race, the greater the risk of hyponatremia.
It cannot be stressed enough that you have got to know what your needs are prior to race day. Rehearse your hydration, feeding, and salt strategy during your training sessions. There are so many variations between individuals that there is no single right answer.

Know what your body's' needs are:
  • Drink frequently to attempt to stay hydrated.
  • During a long, hot race, aim for a total sodium intake of approximately 1 gram per hour, as recommended by Doug Hiller, M.D. from experience with the Hawaii Ironman. Please note that this may not be appropriate for everyone.
  • During training, heat acclimatization, and for several days leading up to a big race make sure that you increase salt intake by 10 - 25 grams per day.
  • Sodium is also important for recovery.
  • Avoid aspirin, ibuprofen, or other anti-inflammatories, and acetaminophen during exercise, but especially during a race.
  • Check with your doctor if you have any health problems.
 
ATTQOTD: not sure how I feel about them but I am doing the Orlando one next week, more because of the cause and would be fine if they didn't even send the metal or shirt!
 

Ugh, the heat here is oppressive right now. We've been in the 90s every day with high humidity for going on two weeks now and no relief in sight. That's normal August weather for us, not June! I find that as I've gotten a bit older, and likely because of some medication I take, I just don't handle the heat like I used to. I'm stubborn about slowing down in the heat, but frankly, that's what I need to do more as well.
 
QOTD: Today is the first official day of summer! With that in mind, I would like to share so information I was email from my local running store. I was recently reminded of it as I was a bit discouraged from my speed work session over the weekend.

ATTQOTD: Below is some information on the topic to consider.

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Fantastic chart...I went out and did 10 miles yesterday and our heat index was pushing 100ºF. I felt like I was running around a 7:10 pace but was actually running 7:38, almost bang on what this chart says. I ran with a bottle of water for the first time in a couple of years and tried to stick to the shadiest areas I could, but we were up at the cottage and there just isn't a lot of shade at the beach :sunny:

I actually think that my coach sent me this same information in one of my training plans...like EXACTLY the same information from the same article. She didn't give me the fancy chart though, but I specifically remember the bit on hyponatremia and Hawaii Ironman stats. Thanks for sharing @LSUlakes, really good info as I'm looking at another day over 100º!
 
QOTD: Today is the first official day of summer! With that in mind, I would like to share so information I was email from my local running store. I was recently reminded of it as I was a bit discouraged from my speed work session over the weekend.

ATTQOTD: Below is some information on the topic to consider.

g2AB4NW-hloXUdMuc2G2aHqFHkJm4S2MXVlLqJDe_qGOQ4CWmKImzkBKKWkXXIWD8IU-csdRZsKbXQv4ok_gXUoFMCIZfYihH-g1rZZb2zYZ3bqD=s0-d-e1-ft

How Long Does It Take to Get Used to the Heat - to "acclimate"?
Exercise Physiology: Basis of Human Movement in Health and Disease
By Stanley P. Brown, Wayne C. Miller, Jane M. Eason
3q3tz3M2LXHgyWGtdRwCJWlojOTDVCdUYx_BZ18HZ-7Va4u474TwjR15h629VqLFD9j5aY12QeqeOr5nYRX909pzXrhR_y8xOrYw7zD4_7bx7SfQ=s0-d-e1-ft


So, How Much Water Do You Need?
Try this Hydration Calculator:
http://beverageinstitute.org/us/hydration-calculator/

qddFuOhiRV2G4Ty413gd8aqcBfL_l4Opc0L-lFvEvbmdd0xVGhL1OPA6y8jvNjfQlWM3DnRUVsGHshop45n7tOWC1Ac1jFKdmdXZtqmVvystK0EF=s0-d-e1-ft

What About Salt?
Recently, Americans have been urged to pay more attention to their sodium intake. Decades ago, all foods seemed heavily salted. Then, a link between sodium intake and high blood pressure was discovered. Suddenly, "sodium - free" or "low sodium" products began flooding the consumer market. Certainly, to a degree, this is justified.
However, sodium is a required element for normal body functions. It is lost in sweat and urine and is replaced in the diet. The body has a remarkable ability to maintain sodium and water balance throughout a variety of conditions.
Longer runs and race challenge this survival mechanism.
In hot, humid conditions a large amount of sweat is lost, which can disturb sodium and water balance. Adequate hydration and sodium intake -- either via sports drinks or food -- becomes vitally important during long races.
Hyponatremia -- what is it?
Hyponatremia means a low concentration of sodium in the blood.
It is estimated that approximately 30% of the finishers of the Hawaii Ironman are both hyponatremic and dehydrated. The longer the training run or race, the greater the risk of hyponatremia.
It cannot be stressed enough that you have got to know what your needs are prior to race day. Rehearse your hydration, feeding, and salt strategy during your training sessions. There are so many variations between individuals that there is no single right answer.

Know what your body's' needs are:
  • Drink frequently to attempt to stay hydrated.
  • During a long, hot race, aim for a total sodium intake of approximately 1 gram per hour, as recommended by Doug Hiller, M.D. from experience with the Hawaii Ironman. Please note that this may not be appropriate for everyone.
  • During training, heat acclimatization, and for several days leading up to a big race make sure that you increase salt intake by 10 - 25 grams per day.
  • Sodium is also important for recovery.
  • Avoid aspirin, ibuprofen, or other anti-inflammatories, and acetaminophen during exercise, but especially during a race.
  • Check with your doctor if you have any health problems.
That is some good info! We don't get over 90 degrees here often but it does get humid here.

As for salt I'm going to honest and say I've never really paid attention to my salt intake.
 
ATTQOTD: I use a somewhat similar method of determining heat adjusted paces (I combine temp and dew point and then I determine my pace adjustment based on the sum of the two). The main thing I've learned is I'm an awful high temp / high humidity runner. So (and I know this has been said many times on here) I run almost completely by feel during the summer because I know if I try and push myself even a tad bit I'm toast. I'm cool with slowing down, but I hate how sweaty, sticky and heavy everything gets. I haven't really solved for that yet.
 
That is a cool chart and seems pretty accurate for me, but I'm pretty sure if the heat was 120 degrees I would be running a whoooooole lot slower than it says, haha. As in, I would be at home hiding from the outside world.

I think forcing myself to run Friday and yesterday during the heat & sun (if not the hottest part of the day) will help me at least a smidgen for my Saturday race which is going to be HOT!

Sidenote: My hubby did a trial "brick" (forgive me if I use any of these terms wrong) on Sunday with biking his 12.5 miles and then doing his transition in our backyard and running a 5k and he was happy with it. We had watched a triathlon in England on tv the day before, anyone else see that? He started telling me about why their bikes weren't like other bikes because of the terrain and all I'm thinking is "He's gonna want another bike." Haha
After his "brick" we took our kiddo to swim practice and she swam a whole kid-sized lap with her face in the water and no floaties, no goggles and like real swimming strokes and she's only 3.5 years old! She leveled up again they are working on back stroke and breat stroke with no floaties. And dolphin kicks for eventual butterfly with just one hand-held floaty bar. ACK WHAT? I have a mermaid kid.
Confession: I'm a terrible swimmer. I hold my nose to go under water. I do not like getting water in my nose or eyes. I love just lazy floaty swimming. Maybe I need to take lessons too...I'm serious. :)
 
I found the trick to non-wireless headphones is to actually have the wire run under your shirt so they don't get caught while swinging your arms etc.
:thumbsup2 Yep! I run mine behind my neck, instead of in front, under my shirt, beneath one bra strap (locks the wire down), and out my arm hole if using an armband for my phone, or under my shirt all the way down if I'm putting my phone in a leg pocket. I never even notice the wire!

ATTQOTD: Below is some information on the topic to consider.

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:rotfl:My pace isn't even on there! I can say, though, that my summer pace tends to be all over the place and is utterly dependent on how I'm doing with the heat on any given day. One day I may be 1:30 slower than winter pace, and another day I may be within :15 of a winter session. I go by feel and perceived effort and let the pace fall where it will. But I definitely feel better mid- to late-summer than I do in the first couple months (summer is basically April through Oct here); those first few really hot runs are just brutal, but after a while the heat starts to feel routine.

I did a much better job of pre-electrolyting last week and it paid off: Feels Like was over 90* before the sun even rose, but I rocked 7 miles more or less comfortably. Nuun the day before, morning of, and all through my run. Stopped to refill my water bottle twice and doused myself in the cool-ish water, too. Long "cool down" walk after, followed by some slow paddling in the pool, then several hours of re-hydrating in the AC. What I notice most about the long, hot summer runs is that they wipe me out in a way that cooler runs just don't. I almost never nap after long winter runs, but I really need them in summer.
 
Oh, also, Jeff Galloway recommends slowing down pace 30 seconds per mile for every 5 degrees above 60. That's a lot to slow down in my book, so I don't slow down that much, but that's at least what he recommends. Honestly, since I'm not a fast runner to start with, that much of a slow down would be nearly impossible for me and still keep running. :)
 
QOTD: Today is the first official day of summer! With that in mind, I would like to share so information I was email from my local running store. I was recently reminded of it as I was a bit discouraged from my speed work session over the weekend.

ATTQOTD: Below is some information on the topic to consider.

g2AB4NW-hloXUdMuc2G2aHqFHkJm4S2MXVlLqJDe_qGOQ4CWmKImzkBKKWkXXIWD8IU-csdRZsKbXQv4ok_gXUoFMCIZfYihH-g1rZZb2zYZ3bqD=s0-d-e1-ft

How Long Does It Take to Get Used to the Heat - to "acclimate"?
Exercise Physiology: Basis of Human Movement in Health and Disease
By Stanley P. Brown, Wayne C. Miller, Jane M. Eason
3q3tz3M2LXHgyWGtdRwCJWlojOTDVCdUYx_BZ18HZ-7Va4u474TwjR15h629VqLFD9j5aY12QeqeOr5nYRX909pzXrhR_y8xOrYw7zD4_7bx7SfQ=s0-d-e1-ft


So, How Much Water Do You Need?
Try this Hydration Calculator:
http://beverageinstitute.org/us/hydration-calculator/

qddFuOhiRV2G4Ty413gd8aqcBfL_l4Opc0L-lFvEvbmdd0xVGhL1OPA6y8jvNjfQlWM3DnRUVsGHshop45n7tOWC1Ac1jFKdmdXZtqmVvystK0EF=s0-d-e1-ft

What About Salt?
Recently, Americans have been urged to pay more attention to their sodium intake. Decades ago, all foods seemed heavily salted. Then, a link between sodium intake and high blood pressure was discovered. Suddenly, "sodium - free" or "low sodium" products began flooding the consumer market. Certainly, to a degree, this is justified.
However, sodium is a required element for normal body functions. It is lost in sweat and urine and is replaced in the diet. The body has a remarkable ability to maintain sodium and water balance throughout a variety of conditions.
Longer runs and race challenge this survival mechanism.
In hot, humid conditions a large amount of sweat is lost, which can disturb sodium and water balance. Adequate hydration and sodium intake -- either via sports drinks or food -- becomes vitally important during long races.
Hyponatremia -- what is it?
Hyponatremia means a low concentration of sodium in the blood.
It is estimated that approximately 30% of the finishers of the Hawaii Ironman are both hyponatremic and dehydrated. The longer the training run or race, the greater the risk of hyponatremia.
It cannot be stressed enough that you have got to know what your needs are prior to race day. Rehearse your hydration, feeding, and salt strategy during your training sessions. There are so many variations between individuals that there is no single right answer.

Know what your body's' needs are:
  • Drink frequently to attempt to stay hydrated.
  • During a long, hot race, aim for a total sodium intake of approximately 1 gram per hour, as recommended by Doug Hiller, M.D. from experience with the Hawaii Ironman. Please note that this may not be appropriate for everyone.
  • During training, heat acclimatization, and for several days leading up to a big race make sure that you increase salt intake by 10 - 25 grams per day.
  • Sodium is also important for recovery.
  • Avoid aspirin, ibuprofen, or other anti-inflammatories, and acetaminophen during exercise, but especially during a race.
  • Check with your doctor if you have any health problems.
Great info- thanks for sharing!
 
I've never paid attention to my salt intake but there was some discussion in this thread some pages back about salt tablets that got me thinking maybe I should look into them. I am a very heavy sweat-er even under non-summer conditions, and end up covered in salt crust after sweaty runs.
 
What type of headphones do you guys use to run in?

Any wireless headphone recommendations? I feel like I'm always getting caught up in the cords of my headphones, or they are falling out!


At the same time, I'm not looking to spend hundreds on headphones (and I do understand that you definitely get what you pay for with headphones)
I have the Jaybird X2, and I love them. The best deal I've seen is at Sam's Club.
 
I've never paid attention to my salt intake but there was some discussion in this thread some pages back about salt tablets that got me thinking maybe I should look into them. I am a very heavy sweat-er even under non-summer conditions, and end up covered in salt crust after sweaty runs.

I was getting day long headaches after running long distancesin the warmer months. I thought I was dehydrated until I went to a nutrition clinic. Headaches are a lesser symptom of salt deficiency. I started taking Salt Stick pills, and I haven't had a headache after a run again.
 
That is a cool chart and seems pretty accurate for me, but I'm pretty sure if the heat was 120 degrees I would be running a whoooooole lot slower than it says, haha. As in, I would be at home hiding from the outside world.

I think forcing myself to run Friday and yesterday during the heat & sun (if not the hottest part of the day) will help me at least a smidgen for my Saturday race which is going to be HOT!

Sidenote: My hubby did a trial "brick" (forgive me if I use any of these terms wrong) on Sunday with biking his 12.5 miles and then doing his transition in our backyard and running a 5k and he was happy with it. We had watched a triathlon in England on tv the day before, anyone else see that? He started telling me about why their bikes weren't like other bikes because of the terrain and all I'm thinking is "He's gonna want another bike." Haha
After his "brick" we took our kiddo to swim practice and she swam a whole kid-sized lap with her face in the water and no floaties, no goggles and like real swimming strokes and she's only 3.5 years old! She leveled up again they are working on back stroke and breat stroke with no floaties. And dolphin kicks for eventual butterfly with just one hand-held floaty bar. ACK WHAT? I have a mermaid kid.
Confession: I'm a terrible swimmer. I hold my nose to go under water. I do not like getting water in my nose or eyes. I love just lazy floaty swimming. Maybe I need to take lessons too...I'm serious. :)
Sounds like your mermaid is pretty awesome! I watched the triathlon last week too, it was a pretty good race. Really enjoyed the women's race, couldn't believe Gwen was able to run Flora down from almost 2 minutes. Rio is going to be good. The men's race was a bit more dull...Brownlee's being Brownlee's. The reason for the road bikes in races like that isn't as much for the terrain, it is because drafting (meaning, riding in a pack) is legal in ITU. If you are in a pack it is very dangerous to ride aerobars/tri bike , you don't have the same handling or braking capabilities as a road bike. None of the ITU courses are so hilly that a road bike would be required.

:thumbsup2 Yep! I run mine behind my neck, instead of in front, under my shirt, beneath one bra strap (locks the wire down), and out my arm hole if using an armband for my phone, or under my shirt all the way down if I'm putting my phone in a leg pocket. I never even notice the wire!
I do the same but down the front, and I use my HR strap (since I don';t wear a bra while running ;) )
 
@LSUlakes .....great chart, thanks for sharing.

I just finished 1.5 weeks in oppressive Florida and South Carolina heat and neglected to make any allowances for the heat and humidity...just kept running the prescribed pace in my training plan. Got back to Virginia and temps were 60 degrees and it felt like paradise!!!!
Unfortunately heat and humidity headed my way this week and I need to be smarter with my running.

@ebradley23..... thanks for sharing about your salt deficiency headaches. I will give that a try and see if it helps.
 
I was getting day long headaches after running long distancesin the warmer months. I thought I was dehydrated until I went to a nutrition clinic. Headaches are a lesser symptom of salt deficiency. I started taking Salt Stick pills, and I haven't had a headache after a run again.

Not on topic but I believe you mentioned that you were going to run the Seashore 50k in December - registration opened this weekend just in case you weren't constantly checking it like me. :)
 
Well, if I thought my sleep schedule was crap before ... Marathon training in Texas during the summer is not doing a whole lot to help me.

To sleep at 1 a.m., up at 5:45 a.m. (ish) to run six miles this morning. Back home to feed the dogs, take them out for a walk before it becomes too oppressive (that's another mile to the daily mileage, by the way!), shower and then take a nap. Of course, I guess I was pretty tired today - my hour-long nap turned into a three-hour nap and now I've wasted half the day.

Here's hoping this gets easier ...
 
Well, if I thought my sleep schedule was crap before ... Marathon training in Texas during the summer is not doing a whole lot to help me.

To sleep at 1 a.m., up at 5:45 a.m. (ish) to run six miles this morning. Back home to feed the dogs, take them out for a walk before it becomes too oppressive (that's another mile to the daily mileage, by the way!), shower and then take a nap. Of course, I guess I was pretty tired today - my hour-long nap turned into a three-hour nap and now I've wasted half the day.

Here's hoping this gets easier ...

I'm so glad I didn't attempt running while I lived in DFW. I'm such a wuss when it comes to heat and humidity. I'm fairly certain I would have never made it past week 1 of my couch to 5k plan.
 



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