The Conservative Thread: Back to Basics. Pass the Lasagna and Have a Flower!!

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I will try to explain someone like myself. Take my Fill-in-the-blank. He is gay. I love him to death. He knows I love him. I do not tell him he is going to go to hell because he is a sinner because I have no idea where he is going to. That is between him and God.

And while we are talking about sin, I sin every day. I am a sinner. My Fill-in-the-blank is a sinner. Heck, even Obama, The Chosen One, is a sinner!

So to embrace someone who is gay is what exactly? Does it mean that I need to tell someone who is gay that I think what they are doing is great? Nope. Ain't gonna happen. Does it mean I am willing to listen about their love life? Nope, that ain't gonna happen either. I will show them that I love them with my actions. And this has worked with more people than I care to mention.:hug:

Thank you...you worded very nicely how I feel. I love my brother. My son loves his uncle. When people say we need to support someone, what does that mean exactly? Does that mean we have to agree with all of their lifestyle choices? No.

Did anyone see the new button they're selling at McCain's store? "Don't Blame Me, I Voted for McCain-Palin." Y'all got your wish after all, if only in button form. :rotfl2:

http://www.johnmccain08store.com/eshop/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=DBM-214A

I've got to go check those out! Thanks for the link.


Well, DH got me settled down. And my DS wrote a very nice email back to my brother stating that his political views are private, and that he enjoys spending time with his uncle, and looks forward to seeing him at Christmas.

My DS is a pretty good kid :thumbsup2

Thanks for all the support, guys. I didn't mean to rile things up around here...:rolleyes1

Oh...and the kids have decided to name the puppy Jack, in honor of Captain Jack Sparrow....savvy?
 
We are a tight knit group here. If you read more than a few pages you will find we are also a very diverse group. We have conservatives, moderates, and even a few Democrats in here. Our beliefs differ but we are extremely respectful of each other. We have no hate. You were the one who came in and started judging and throwing out accusations. We just defended our friend, who we all know to be a kind, thoughtful, tolerant person.

This is the second conservative thread I've seen you in. In both of them you threw out accusations without knowing the full story. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.

In judging us, you have proven to be the truly judgemental one. Think about that.

I have missed some of the background here - but FFM you've hit the nail on the head. Everyone here has different views on certain issues -- we respect each other.


Oh, whoever let Lindsay Lohan out of that box -- please lock her back up-- if she ever gets another role in anything, I give up -- she gets the PINHEAD award of the day (and I'm no BO fan) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450347,00.html
 
I have missed some of the background here - but FFM you've hit the nail on the head. Everyone here has different views on certain issues -- we respect each other.


Oh, whoever let Lindsay Lohan out of that box -- please lock her back up-- if she ever gets another role in anything, I give up -- she gets the PINHEAD award of the day (and I'm no BO fan) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,450347,00.html

Lindsay was probably seeing colors and thought he was green.
 

I don't remember if anyone I know personally has used the term "colored", but I didn't realize it was considered racist. I just thought it was outdated, like Negro, and people preferred African American. Although apparently it's again acceptable to use the term "black".:confused3
 
I don't remember if anyone I know personally has used the term "colored", but I didn't realize it was considered racist. I just thought it was outdated, like Negro, and people preferred African American. Although apparently it's again acceptable to use the term "black".:confused3

:confused3 I always have thought of it as a derogatory term. I can't keep up though to be honest.
 
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Hi everyone. I was away for a few days so forgive me while I catch up, but I just have one question:

Why did John McCain jump all over his staffers for calling BO by his full name, Barack Hussein Obama, yet, he won't stick up for Sarah Palin with all these latest attacks from "sources close to the campaign?"

I'm just baffled by that.

Everyday that goes by, I ask myself that same question.
 
I don't remember if anyone I know personally has used the term "colored", but I didn't realize it was considered racist. I just thought it was outdated, like Negro, and people preferred African American. Although apparently it's again acceptable to use the term "black".:confused3

LaShawn Barber, well known conservative blogger, very recently on her blo stated she prefers black. She says she is not African American; she didn't immigrate from Africa and neither did her parents.
I'm white/caucasion; I don't go by German/Jewish/English/Native Indian American. :lmao:
 
LaShawn Barber, well known conservative blogger, very recently on her blo stated she prefers black. She says she is not African American; she didn't immigrate from Africa and neither did her parents.
I'm white/caucasion; I don't go by German/Jewish/English/Native Indian American. :lmao:

I just go by American.:goodvibes
 
Hi guys

Just checking in. I have been working more at my PT job since Chritmas is getting closer so I have not been around. The pace of this thread just awes me. looks like I missed a bunch. I'll have to go back and read some.

Hope you all are doing well.
 
Okay, so I've mostly caught up on things.

blestmom: :hug: to you. My thoughts on it all are in line with pretty much everyone else's in that he shouldn't have assumed joining a conservative group means you agree with everything. I'm a member of a lot of conservative groups myself on Facebook, and I am moderate on gun control and I don't agree with any party or ideology as far as the environment goes. And even if he did agree with the group completely, that doesn't mean he loves his uncle any less. Good people have honest disagreements about this issue. Your DS sounds like he was raised right based on that email he sent him. I think you should be proud. :thumbsup2

sarasotamom, here are my thoughts in regards to what you posted. I agree with most of what you said about Obama. I think he is a very dangerous leapforward towards socialism. All I can do now on that is pray he works as a moderate like he promoted himself as, but I don't believe that based on what he's actually done and the plans he's actually put forward. So you did vote for McCain after all, despite reservations you had? I ask because I'm confused here; on another thread you said that you did not vote for him because of Sarah Palin.

A side note not really related to the topic is about your comment "People are changing, and although it breaks my heart, pro-choice is accepted by most of the younger generation. Christians or not." Actually, studies are showing that members of the younger generation are more likely to be pro-life than their parents' generation. It's quite interesting, considering one would think otherwise. I don't remember the research journals off of the top of my head, but there are quite a few research articles published in national journals on this topic. I read several of them in grad school and college.

Back on topic. I don't think in any way blestmom was saying she was afraid her brother would "turn her son gay." The problem as I took it is that he jumped to assumptions based on a Facebook group; and even if the son agreed totally with the group, that's his views and the uncle should accept that without insulting her son. Disagree, sure! But people interpret the Bible differently. For me personally, I strive not to judge people. However, there are behaviors I do disagree with (ex. using God's name in vain). In my family it was always the saying of "Hate the sins, love the sinner."

I know that this is controversial but this is the way that we all believe. You can flame us all you want to but why would someone chose to be in the minority? Seriously, we are asking for support from Republicans but so far we have not got any support.Funny thing is, that the Dems are much more supportive. As a family we do not support Obama's views. All I am saying is that you all better wake up, and realize that the country has changed. I am truly sorry if I hurt anyone by my views. I did not mean to hurt anyone. But I am in tears as I write this as all of you have made me feel as if I am wromg to support my son.

I'm a lifelong Southern Baptist. I don't believe being gay is a choice, I believe people are born that way. Do I agree with acting on it, based on my religious beliefs? No, just like I don't agree with premarital sex, among other things. On the issue that started the "problem" with blestmom's DS and brother, the Republicans as a party (but not all Republicans) and many Democrats have the exact same view: That marriage is between a man and a woman only. Obama feels this way, Biden feels this way. McCain actually got 3% more of the GLBT vote than Bush 43 did in 2004.

I honestly don't get the feeling that anyone said or implied you're wrong to support your son. The way I see it, you're supposed to love your children no matter what. Why? They're you're children. You might disagree with what they do sometimes, but you still love them.

Welcome to the thread. I mean that sincerely. But I hope you will come to realize that we as a whole are not what you seem to think we are. I'm not trying to upset you by saying this, but some people were upset because you say at first you don't believe it's our place to judge others, but you then say God will judge some people who posted and it will not be pretty. Assuming "it will not be pretty" is also judging, as is assuming what people really think about an issue.

I don't think any of us here believe exactly the same way. We have our disagreements, but we get along well. We're actually a very nice and fun bunch here. Promise. :wizard:
 
Good news ---

Coleman-Franken Audit Precedes Minn. Recount

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 11:33 AM

By: Phil Brennan Article Font Size



A ballot-by-ballot audit of the results that originally gave U.S. Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., a paper-thin lead over his challenger, liberal comedian Al Franken, isn’t moving either candidate’s total much.

The county-by-county tally precedes the official statewide recount that begins on Nov. 19, according to the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

As of Monday, Coleman’s lead had slipped from 725 votes out of about 2.9 million cast Nov. 4 to 204 Monday. That original slim margin triggered the need for the Nov. 19 recount.

The newspaper described the audit as a sneak preview of the statewide recount, reporting that 20 men and women at the Ramsey County elections office in St. Paul started Monday morning checking 7,700 of the ballots cast in the Senate race on Election Day.

After the first three hours of counting, Coleman had lost one net vote in five of the county's precincts, while Franken had gained one. On Election Day, Franken garnered 52 percent of the vote in the urban county, to Coleman’s 34 percent.

"You take the ballots out, you count them by hand and you report the results — exactly what we'll be doing” with the recount, Joe Mansky, the county elections director in charge of what is known as a "postelection audit," told the Star Tribune.

This audit process functionally is meant to check the accuracy of Minnesota's optical scan voting machines and is not related to the Nov. 19 recount.

"Every vote is counted, by hand, with only election judges and elections staffers touching them," the paper wrote, explaining that the whole process is open to the public and takes place in the presence of good-government volunteers and operatives of the two campaigns.

"I'm just watching like everyone else," John Stiles, a DFL spokesman who had staked out one corner of the conference room, told the Star Tribune. "It all seems pretty straightforward to me."

Coleman volunteer John Nygaard said, "It's very transparent. I'm impressed. I didn't realize how much work went into this."




© 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

-- and, while we're praying for our troops, we need to pray for the recount in GA, too ...


I am worried about this one. Glenn Beck had a statistics expert on his radio show today talking about this race. When he examined the results, only the Franken/Coleman race show any anomalies. As they discover "new" uncounted ballots, they should run about the same percentages for each candidate as the others that were cast, but they are not. 100% of these votes are going to Franken, with Coleman actually losing votes.

The one county where Franken made the most gains blamed the problem on the fact that they were tired when doing the vote count and made mistakes. If this were true, than mistakes would have been made in all the races. The Franken/Coleman race was the only one in that county to have these "mistakes" in counting. it didn't affect any other races, including President.

On O'Reilly tonight they said that the Feds may get involved because of the possible fraud. I hope that the Republicans don't roll over and take it on this one. They need to fight this fraud and make sure that that twit Franken doesn't steal the election!
 
Hi everyone:

I got banned! Right before the election! I've followed along on your comments since then, and as I predicted the posters on the Conservative Thread are right back to their happy, productive, fulfilling lives. I LOVE CONSERVATIVES!!

So, the election…

I'm so glad it's over, and actually so relieved I get to take the next 4 years off from defending my president, his policies, the war, etc. It all belongs to President Obama now, and I get to sit back and say, "Hey, how's that Obama presidency workin' out for ya'?" every time another business closes, another 10,000 jobs get lost, another chunk of change disappears from our paychecks, another terrorist threat pops up, etc.

I was especially amused today when Team Obama announced that they won't be rolling back any of Bush's executive orders on terrorist questioning, terrorist surveillance, etc. You know, all the stuff they were going to impeach Bush for. Now, Obama has seen 1 or 2 daily security briefings, and he's like "Oh, crap. Ummmmm, yeah, the bad guys are kinda bad. Scary, even. That Bush guy, he was a freakin' genius!" And now Russia is meeting with Cuba, forming a groovy alliance and all. Good times.

Yup. I'm settling into my comfiest chair, with a nice hot cup of coffee, and I'm gonna watch the show. It's going to be quite interesting, and such a disappointment, I think, for a whole bunch of folks walking around with Kool-Aid mustaches. How do you suppose they'll handle the disappointment?
 
On O'Reilly tonight they said that the Feds may get involved because of the possible fraud. I hope that the Republicans don't roll over and take it on this one. They need to fight this fraud and make sure that that twit Franken doesn't steal the election!

Didn't I hear, they actually "found" and COUNTED 32 votes.....that were found in the trunk of a car?:scared1:

**edited to add** Welcome back Loco!!
 
hey Loco - I thought banning meant forever- how are you able to post? I thought that was what happened to you. Never thought we'd see you again. Glad you are back :)

I agree - it will be nice to sit back for four years and not to have defend the president
 
Hi everyone:

I got banned! Right before the election! I've followed along on your comments since then, and as I predicted the posters on the Conservative Thread are right back to their happy, productive, fulfilling lives. I LOVE CONSERVATIVES!!

So, the election…

I'm so glad it's over, and actually so relieved I get to take the next 4 years off from defending my president, his policies, the war, etc. It all belongs to President Obama now, and I get to sit back and say, "Hey, how's that Obama presidency workin' out for ya'?" every time another business closes, another 10,000 jobs get lost, another chunk of change disappears from our paychecks, another terrorist threat pops up, etc.

I was especially amused today when Team Obama announced that they won't be rolling back any of Bush's executive orders on terrorist questioning, terrorist surveillance, etc. You know, all the stuff they were going to impeach Bush for. Now, Obama has seen 1 or 2 daily security briefings, and he's like "Oh, crap. Ummmmm, yeah, the bad guys are kinda bad. Scary, even. That Bush guy, he was a freakin' genius!" And now Russia is meeting with Cuba, forming a groovy alliance and all. Good times.

Yup. I'm settling into my comfiest chair, with a nice hot cup of coffee, and I'm gonna watch the show. It's going to be quite interesting, and such a disappointment, I think, for a whole bunch of folks walking around with Kool-Aid mustaches. How do you suppose they'll handle the disappointment?


:wave2: :wave2: :wave2: WELCOME BACK -- YOU'VE BEEN MISSED. Love your outlook -- in other words, when life hands you lemons make lemonade.

Similar vibe coming from this article http://jewishworldreview.com/1108/prager111108.php3
 
Hi everyone:

I got banned! Right before the election! I've followed along on your comments since then, and as I predicted the posters on the Conservative Thread are right back to their happy, productive, fulfilling lives. I LOVE CONSERVATIVES!!

So, the election…

I'm so glad it's over, and actually so relieved I get to take the next 4 years off from defending my president, his policies, the war, etc. It all belongs to President Obama now, and I get to sit back and say, "Hey, how's that Obama presidency workin' out for ya'?" every time another business closes, another 10,000 jobs get lost, another chunk of change disappears from our paychecks, another terrorist threat pops up, etc.

I was especially amused today when Team Obama announced that they won't be rolling back any of Bush's executive orders on terrorist questioning, terrorist surveillance, etc. You know, all the stuff they were going to impeach Bush for. Now, Obama has seen 1 or 2 daily security briefings, and he's like "Oh, crap. Ummmmm, yeah, the bad guys are kinda bad. Scary, even. That Bush guy, he was a freakin' genius!" And now Russia is meeting with Cuba, forming a groovy alliance and all. Good times.

Yup. I'm settling into my comfiest chair, with a nice hot cup of coffee, and I'm gonna watch the show. It's going to be quite interesting, and such a disappointment, I think, for a whole bunch of folks walking around with Kool-Aid mustaches. How do you suppose they'll handle the disappointment?

Glad to have you back! I feel like you do. the ball is in their court no with no one to blame but themselves when they screw up. I will be glad the day I no longer have to hear that it is Bush's fault. Of course we will still be hearing that for a long time to come. I thought it was really funny this week when H had his press conference and said that he was going to meet with his economic advisor's to come up with a plan for the economy. Excuse me, but you have been running for 2 years and yapping about all your plans and now it is crunch time and it turns out you never had one in the first place.:confused3

Didn't I hear, they actually "found" and COUNTED 32 votes.....that were found in the trunk of a car?:scared1:

Yes. An election official had ballots in his/her car and they were ALL for Franken. Who would have guessed that one?
 
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