The Apprentice....the Trump version...watch out for spoilers

Bob Slydell said:
I don't understand why everyone's suddenly turned on Randal all over this one decision (which he was forced to make at a really bad time, IMO) :confused3 He was most people's favorite for most of the season and suddenly he's a bad guy for that one choice?

Rebecca will be fine -- actually, she's probably even better off now than if she was offered a job by Trump. Now she can entertain the numerous offers that'll come her way.

I honestly thought (and still think) that Randall is overrated. That being said, he's very talented, I just don't think he was as great as everyone else.

And like someone said, the fact that we're debating this at all means that it was good, enjoyable television...which is a rarity nowadays.
 
bengalbelle said:
Like Trump said, they were both stars.
That is the truth. I've worked with some impressive people in my time, and these two are on another level. I can't imagine either one of them ever being flustered.
 
Bob Slydell said:
I don't understand why everyone's suddenly turned on Randal all over this one decision (which he was forced to make at a really bad time, IMO) :confused3 He was most people's favorite for most of the season and suddenly he's a bad guy for that one choice?

Rebecca will be fine -- actually, she's probably even better off now than if she was offered a job by Trump. Now she can entertain the numerous offers that'll come her way.
I actually preferred Rebecca over Randall if it just came down to one. She never showed signs of stress and took action immediately when necessary. That's what the Trump organization needs.

Randall has a "ho, hum" attitude. Come on, no backup plan for rain...even when it was suggested? Who would plan an outside event and not think of that. It's common sense (again, even when it was mentioned they should have one).
 
djm99 said:
The 13 week interview is to win the apprentice - one apprentice. Not several.... Never in "reality" tv history (that I know of) has there been one prize at the end then MC asks - do you think we should give so and so the prize too.

Wrong--on the series Fame (reality--not the television show), there was one winner...and while no ones opinion was solicited--the runner up was basically offered a contract like the winner of the show.
 

I just read that the Glaser Foundation has declared that it will announce how much was raised by the envelopes.
 
Marshawn was a very strong candidate as well. She is very well spoken. She did better on the learning class project than Rebecca did. I dont know why she flipped out on that one task and wouldnt do the presentation but we didnt see Marshawn involved in much if any at all "catish" behavior.

On the last task, Randall's event was more challenging due to the rain. Even though he didnt have a firm plan B, he handled the situation well and in the end got the results. Results are what matters in coporate America. They can nitpick Randall all day long about not having a plan B but in the end he got the job done. If he didnt get the job done then the questioning his plans would have been more appropriate. It was also nitpicking by George about wanting the celebs up front. Talking about grasping at straws. I would have liek to have seen Rebecca in the task Randall had.

Randall was also the defacto PM on the Microsoft task replacing the actor and taking over himself. He drove him and Rebecca to a win when Rebecca started getting all neutrotic about Carolyn asking them what they have been doing with their time.
 
There are also a lot of behind the scenes that we will never be aware of...in both sides and in all tasks...I'm sure they both cracked to one degree or another. I just think that Rebecca, even the age she is, handled herself in a more business or professional manner. Randall still seemed to wishy, washy at times.
 
Bob Slydell said:
I don't understand why everyone's suddenly turned on Randal all over this one decision (which he was forced to make at a really bad time, IMO) :confused3 He was most people's favorite for most of the season and suddenly he's a bad guy for that one choice?

Rebecca will be fine -- actually, she's probably even better off now than if she was offered a job by Trump. Now she can entertain the numerous offers that'll come her way.

I think it was because he was classy all season long.

I think there are nicer ways to say "no". To me it seemd like he put the knife in and twisted it--and twisted it further.

No problems with him winning or celebrating--but in that moment when Trump asked him if he should hire Rebecca as well....almost like the only thing missing was the thumb in the ears, fingers waving and the nah-nanny-boo-boo bit. :confused3
 
Lisa loves Pooh said:
Wrong--on the series Fame (reality--not the television show), there was one winner...and while no ones opinion was solicited--the runner up was basically offered a contract like the winner of the show.

I wrote that I know of.... go back and read my post. As the Apprentice comes on it goes something like this .... 20 some odd people will have a 13 weeks interview, but only one can be ... The Apprentice. Not two can be - or one will win 1st then we will give second a "pity" price. That's the opening Every Thursday. My point was and still remains.... IMHO, Rebecca should not have been in the final two. And to her credit I thought it was unfair. Randal not only looks good on paper (education wise) but he has the personality and boldness of a leader. Although I think that Rebecca was a nice girl - even smart - but to hold her against Randal (with the appearance of more book smarts, street smarts, charisma, boldness, and guts) - no way!!! Rebecca only won one task with the help of Randal….. And her last task was a fundraiser that she failed at miserably. Any other week – Rebecca would have been fired for failing not the raise a dime!!! She didn't do much to show who the fundraiser was for (1 poster). She could have used those flat screens to show what the Pediatric Aids Foundations was about, what they do, how they change lives. Did she really think that the VIP's were going to view their "gift bags". But the sponsor was everywhere - Yahoo!! Randal made mistakes too (no plan B) and I agree with him when he said the Organization that he was representing was the only celebrity that day and the “celebs” present didn’t need to share the stage with the Kids Autism Foundation they were raising money for. Rebecca vs. Randal is almost a silly….. Now Randal vs. Alla – hey that would have been a competition. Randal said it best….. Randal builds and manages companies Rebecca writes about those companies. :cool1:
 
djm99 said:
Rebecca only won one task with the help of Randal….. And her last task was a fundraiser that she failed at miserably.

Keep in mind that as PM, Rebecca also lost one task due, in part, to Randal. Remember him putting the wrong channel number on the satellite radio poster?
 
stlrod said:
Keep in mind that as PM, Rebecca also lost one task due, in part, to Randal. Remember him putting the wrong channel number on the satellite radio poster?

A small part..... Rebecca was PM for a radio station and didn't pick an Artist that even fit in with the program. Now true everyone (including Randal) went along with her - but thats the reason Rebecca lost that task.
 
And her last task was a fundraiser that she failed at miserably. Any other week – Rebecca would have been fired for failing not the raise a dime!!! She didn't do much to show who the fundraiser was for (1 poster). She could have used those flat screens to show what the Pediatric Aids Foundations was about, what they do, how they change lives. Did she really think that the VIP's were going to view their "gift bags". But the sponsor was everywhere - Yahoo!! Randal made mistakes too (no plan B) and I agree with him when he said the Organization that he was representing was the only celebrity that day and the “celebs” present didn’t need to share the stage with the Kids Autism Foundation they were raising money for. Rebecca vs. Randal is almost a silly….. Now Randal vs. Alla – hey that would have been a competition. Randal said it best….. Randal builds and manages companies Rebecca writes about those companies

I agree with you, Randell, hands down was the winner.


Also a note- Trump did an interview on Jim Kerr's radio show this morning-

Jimm Kerr asked Trump- "If you want, you can do something for Rebecca now, you can hire her...." Trump replied "No, I'm over it."
 
2funny2c said:
Randall was also the defacto PM on the Microsoft task replacing the actor and taking over himself. He drove him and Rebecca to a win when Rebecca started getting all neutrotic about Carolyn asking them what they have been doing with their time.

Umm...pretty certain that it was Rebecca's decision to fire the actor and have Randall take over. She realized that the actor wasn't cutting it and made the decision to put Randall in his place. And as for her getting neurotic...they were done the task at that point. The reason Rebecca was worried was because they were completed so early and Carolyn's remarks worried her a little.

Also, people keep saying that this was a charity event and Rebecca didn't raise any money for the charity. The company chairing the event didn't want her to ask for money. How is it her fault? It'll be interesting to see how much money was donated.
 
I kind of blame this all on The Donald - that he didn't handle this very well.

It was apparent by the advertising of a new twist that he might hire both.
I think he hired Randall first, thinking that when he proposed the hiring of Rebecca too that Randall would say "yes" I think The Donald misjudged Randall, hence the "he's really strong" comments on Today Show.

I don't blame Randall for what he did. Very poor on The Donald to put Randall in that position.

I think most of us thought it really didn't matter who won, because we liked them both. However, the way it was done was really crappy. The Donald should have just named Randell the winner and let it be.

He has now successfully created a whole lot of negative press for Randall.

I think Randall should have either passed the question back to Trump to decided or probably should have said ''yes". He really was in a "no-win" situation.......even though he won!
 
Hey, he FIRED more than one at a time so there is no reason why he can't HIRE more than one.

It is Donald's show and company after all, isn't it???
 
Yzma and Kronk said:
I kind of blame this all on The Donald - that he didn't handle this very well.

He has now successfully created a whole lot of negative press for Randall.

I think Randall should have either passed the question back to Trump to decided or probably should have said ''yes". He really was in a "no-win" situation.......even though he won!

Very well said...... Before the finale... I heard nothing negative about Randal ... This morning... he's selfish, he needs to apologize, etc. etc. Trump did that..... Next seasons finale I'd be shocked if Donald would ask that question... Donald should have asked that last season....
 
bengalbelle said:
If Trump wants Rebecca he won't let her get away. I still don't understand why Trump felt Randall had to prove he was a nice guy so he put the decision in Randall's hands. Maybe I am misinterpreting your other post. IMHO, if Randall needed to prove something, it was that he could be tough.
Tough he is. Just Trumps style. I was thinking that Trump was just giving Randall the opportunity to show his sincerity and show what a leader and decision maker he is. Whatever. This is an interesting thread. I knew Randall was going to get beat up today, but really wasn't prepared for all the different opinions of people. Interesting! Lots of good thoughts!
 
djm99 said:
Donald should have asked that last season....
No, he should have fired both finalists last season.
 
djm99 said:
Before the finale... I heard nothing negative about Randal ... This morning... he's an A hole, he's selfish, he needs to apologize, etc. etc.

I think the reason behind this was mentioned by Lisa Loves Pooh in a previous post (at least I think it was her). Randall was depicted as a generous, nice guy who seemed to be able to be friends with everyone while still maintaining an aire of professionalism. It seemed totally outside of his personality to do what he did last night.

--- Plus since Rebecca was my pick, I'm kinda bitter ;) ---
 
You know what frosts my cookies?! The show is Donald Trump's show ... not Randall's show. It was sooooo very unfair and wrong for Trump to even ask Randall that question or put him in that position. Why did he do that to Randall!??! The decision was Trump's alone to make. He *could* have said "You're both hired" ... but to make Randall decide is just wrong on so many levels. Why didn't he just ask Randall to pick out someone from the other "wannabes" to be burned at the stake?!!?

Sorry, but that was very poor judgement on Trump's part. If Trump wanted Rebecca, he should have just hired her for the other position since it was the one Randall turned down to begin with.

I always thought Trump was a jerk ... .

Also, I think that the winner should have been chosen on the outcome of the final task. Since every other "boardroom dismissal" is based on task performance, this one should have been, too. Let's face it ... Rebecca blew it. She did not bring in a single penny for the Elizabeth Glaser Pediatric AIDS Foundation. She could have had an auction (Chinese, silent, bidding, etc.). Nobody would have to participate if they didn't want to. Yes, they didn't want to appear to be begging for money -- but if you have some great prizes to win, why not offer up chances. People could have said "no thank you" and not participated what-so-ever. There would have been no pressure whatsoever if they held any type of auction. You don't want to donate, then don't bid/play/etc. Heck, if I go to a Chinese auction or silent auction, I decide how much (if anything) that I want to spend. Nobody forces me to spend $1000 if I don't want to. That was the easiest thing to do for a fundraiser b/c you're not out there "begging" like you would be w/envelopes. When I saw those envelopes, I knew nobody would send a single one in.

In the "real world", Rebecca would have been fired for throwing a fundraiser that brought in zero funds. **Edited for clarity -- she would have been fired by the EGPAF, not Yahoo!, for not bringing in the donations. (Thanks, Jimbo).
 


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