The Apprentice....the Trump version...watch out for spoilers

[Lisa loves Pooh]

Every day in the business world, managers are faced with making the decision of which of two higly qualified candidates should fill a position. Oftentimes, they will offer one the position and bring back the other one to discuss filling another position, and even sometimes, create a position for the second-place candidate. Never do the managers say to the one to whom they offer the original position, "Hey, I''ve been interviewing another qualified candidate and I would like to put him in another position, what do you think?" Trump likes to tout this as "an interview" rather than "entertainment." He should have treated it as such. Now today, "He's over it." Funny how he admired Rebecca for her loyalty and then showed her none himself.

No--but how often in the business world is told--"you're hired"--got someone you want to bring along? Pretty often. Some companies even pay bonuses for hired referrals.

He wasn't asked to share the apprenticeship--he was asked his thoughts on whether or not she should be given a job in the organization.


That happened in Men's gymnastics--actually the person who didn't win wanted to share it...or was that ice skating? I think it was the last Olympics The scenarios are apples and oranges though. Nothing is gained or lost by sharing/not sharing a gold medal. But in this instance--money could very well likely be walking out the door.

On the note of Randalls living arrangements and business...just b/c the business is mulit-million dollar doesn't mean that he is. He could be totally reinvesting those millions into the growth of the company. Also--"The Millionaire Next Door" is worth a read. Real millionaires SAVE their money and put it to work for them--not to buy disposable goods. How he lives is not indicative of his net worth or his companies success. Read the Budget boards--lots of talk about you can no longer judge wealth by what people wear, what they drive, or where they live. Perhaps he is living quite comfortably within his means. The Apprenticeship is more than an income--it is an opportunity to LEARN and take what you do learn and run with it.

 

[SRUAlmn]

"Originally Posted by Bob NC
Ya know, I've liked Randall all season, but the past few weeks I've been looking at things that made me doubt that he's the "best" apprentice.

Here's a guy with, what, 5 degrees? Do we all know people that are like, "professional students", know a lot about a lot but don't have the drive, determination or common sense to be successful at anything?

I heard many, many times last night that he heads up a multi-million dollar company. I gotta tell ya, those offices they showed where he works aren't like the offices of any multi-million dollar company I've ever seen. Then they show him at home, gotta tell ya again, that looked like the $600/month apartment that we all shared with roommates while going to college.

Why would the head of a multi-million dollar business want to go to work for the Donald at, what, $200,000 a year?

Randall is like the guy we all know at our companies that, "Interviews well", but provides very little after actually being hired.

Check the weather report before the most important outside event of my life? Naaaaaaa

Being under heavy time restraints on a project that HAS to be completed on time? I think I'll just sit here in my suit doing nothing while ONE underling sets up tents and chairs all by himself.

"I won last weeks project and got immunity, so I think I'll sit on my butt and coast thru this weeks project while Rebecca is PM". "And, while I make this poster for a radio station, I'll get the XM radio station number WRONG".

Randall has a good personality, great education, speaks very well. I kinda get the impression it may be all smoke and no fire, though."

stlrod
"Trump likes to tout this as "an interview" rather than "entertainment." He should have treated it as such. Now today, "He's over it." Funny how he admired Rebecca for her loyalty and then showed her none himself."



I really liked both Rebecca and Randal (Becky and Randy .) I would have been VERY happy if he had hired both. I think this was the first season the finalists were both very qualified to be hired. This is an INTERVIEW first. Yes, it is a reality show, and yes there are twists and turns, but it's unlike other reality shows in that it is for a job, not just for prize money. Therefore, it's not fair to compare apples to oranges.

I think what I (and maybe others too) are bothered by is not so much the fact that Randal was the one that was hired and he said no, but the way he reacted. Like others have said, he wasn't very eloquent in his response and he is normally a VERY eloquent person. He made no gesture to Rebecca at all, a person whom he said was like his sister all season! No hand shake, no hug, no 'job well done', no 'I'm sorry' face, nothing! Even a GOLD MEDALIST hugs or shakes the hand of the Silver Medalist, Randal!

 

[djm99]

I think what I (and maybe others too) are bothered by is not so much the fact that Randal was the one that was hired and he said no, but the way he reacted. Like others have said, he wasn't very eloquent in his response and he is normally a VERY eloquent person. He made no gesture to Rebecca at all, a person whom he said was like his sister all season! No hand shake, no hug, no 'job well done', no 'I'm sorry' face, nothing! Even a GOLD MEDALIST hugs or shakes the hand of the Silver Medalist, Randal!

You know after reading your comment I fast forwarded my DVR (like TiVO) to the point of Randal's hiring. You are mistaken. As I write this I’m freezing my DVR on the scene of Randal hugging Rebecca. Let me set the stage…. Trump said, “Randal your hired’ He shook the hands of all three execs (Trump, Carolyn, George) turned to Rebecca shook her hand, hugged her (then the cameras go to Randals family at home and in the audience). So I'm not sure if Randal said anything to Rebecca. Cameras return to Randal. Randal turns to other candidates hugs and shakes hands with them. A few seconds later Trump calls Randal a few times (then beats on the conference table to get his attention). Trumps says, "Randal sit down a second I want to ask your opinion". Trump continues, "you two were both so good I have to ask Randals opinion, what do you think of Rebecca." He gives her compliments and kudos, etc. Then Trump continues, "Let me ask you a question – and you I really respect and I respect your opinion, if you were me would you hire Rebecca also” Many screams in the audition, some candidates behind Randal clapping, some shaking their heads no, Randal gives a slight smirk almost - not a smile. Rebecca smiles and looks at Randal. And Randal replies, (with a straight serious face) "Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump - I firmly believe that this is the apprentice, that there is one and only one apprentice and If I were to hire someone tonight (many boos from the audience - so he has to speak up - also I didn't notice this last night - many of the other candidates are cheering Randal on and many head shakes agreeing with Randal and some are clapping) - back to Randal he continues with "it should be one" Trump says, "okay". Then Randal said, "It’s not the Apprenti (this gets the laugh of the audience), it’s the apprentice." Trumps says, "I'm gonna (and yeah Trump said gonna) leave it at that - I think I could have been convinced, but you feel that way it should be." Randal said, "thats the way it should be". Trumps said, "Im gonna leave it that way - Congratulations" Randal thanks Trump. The cameras go to Rebecca and she is shaking her head left and right - like no! Congratulations come from Trump – (the music starts) both Randal and Rebecca sit there for a few seconds some words were said (of course we didn’t hear), then hands shakes from the other candidates, music continues - the end!!!

Yeah - i'll admit it - I have not life, wanted to do a little shopping today, but its cold here in St. Louis - so the disboards is my friend tonight. Looking at the ending again, I thought Randal handle himself well - considering the twist. IMO, Randal did the right thing.

 

[SRUAlmn]

You know after reading your comment I fast forwarded my DVR (like TiVO) to the point of Randal's hiring. You are mistaken. As I write this I’m freezing my DVR on the scene of Randal hugging Rebecca. Let me set the stage…. Trump said, “Randal your hired’ He shook the hands of all three execs (Trump, Carolyn, George) turned to Rebecca shook her hand, hugged her (then the cameras go to Randals family at home and in the audience). So I'm not sure if Randal said anything to Rebecca. Cameras return to Randal. Randal turns to other candidates hugs and shakes hands with them. A few seconds later Trump calls Randal a few times (then beats on the conference table to get his attention). Trumps says, "Randal sit down a second I want to ask your opinion". Trump continues, "you two were both so good I have to ask Randals opinion, what do you think of Rebecca." He gives her compliments and kudos, etc. Then Trump continues, "Let me ask you a question – and you I really respect and I respect your opinion, if you were me would you hire Rebecca also” Many screams in the audition, some candidates behind Randal clapping, some shaking their heads no, Randal gives a slight smirk almost - not a smile. Rebecca smiles and looks at Randal. And Randal replies, (with a straight serious face) "Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump - I firmly believe that this is the apprentice, that there is one and only one apprentice and If I were to hire someone tonight (many boos from the audience - so he has to speak up - also I didn't notice this last night - many of the other candidates are cheering Randal on and many head shakes agreeing with Randal and some are clapping) - back to Randal he continues with "it should be one" Trump says, "okay". Then Randal said, "It’s not the Apprenti (this gets the laugh of the audience), it’s the apprentice." Trumps says, "I'm gonna (and yeah Trump said gonna) leave it at that - I think I could have been convinced, but you feel that way it should be." Randal said, "thats the way it should be". Trumps said, "Im gonna leave it that way - Congratulations" Randal thanks Trump. The cameras go to Rebecca and she is shaking her head left and right - like no! Congratulations come from Trump – (the music starts) both Randal and Rebecca sit there for a few seconds some words were said (of course we didn’t hear), then hands shakes from the other candidates, music continues - the end!!!

Yeah - i'll admit it - I have not life, wanted to do a little shopping today, but its cold here in St. Louis - so the disboards is my friend tonight. Looking at the ending again, I thought Randal handle himself well - considering the twist. IMO, Randal did the right thing.

Ok, guess I missed the handshake.

 

[djm99]

Ok, guess I missed the handshake.

The handshake and the hug.... what else was he suppose to do. Should he had kissed her - what? You said that no gesture is what is bothering you and others - the handshake and hug was gesture - nothing else could have been offered. So what is it - thats really bothering you.

 

[OhMari]

Also, people keep saying that this was a charity event and Rebecca didn't raise any money for the charity. The company chairing the event didn't want her to ask for money. How is it her fault? It'll be interesting to see how much money was donated.

You have that wrong. Yahoo was invited to a Fundraiser for the Linda Glazer Foundation. Rebecca was the organizer or event planner that put together the event for the Foundation knowing just Yahoo employees would be invited. Yahoo basically got a lot of free publicity and turning in $100,00 to be shared between the two charities was a slap in the face. So the employees didn't contribute, Yahoo did.

 

[Sandy22]

I never saw what was so special about Rebecca. Towards the end of the show, I was surprised she was still around because she didn't seem to do much...she just layed low and stayed out of the spotlight. I don't think she deserved to be in the final two. I think Randall said it best when he said something along the lines of "Rebecca writes about business, I run a multimilllion dollar business." She might be a great journalist but she has zero experience as a business executive. The winner was obvious all along.

 

[Sandy22]

Look at what he has done with Troy...he could not bring himself to hire him ONLY because he did not have the education. If he had all those little pieces of paper called degrees, he would of given Bill more of a run for his money. Donald is putting Troy through school. I am sure once he finishes, Donald will have a job for him.

Is Donald really paying for Troy to finish school? Troy was something else alright...I wouldn't mind seeing him again on TV.

 

[lsyorke]

I think the only one who acted bad in this finale was Trump. It was unfair to both Randal and Rebecca to be put on the spot like that. Randal was in "fight for the win" mode and you can't turn that off on the spot. Trump handled this VERY poorly!!

 

[Sandy22]

Jimm Kerr asked Trump- "If you want, you can do something for Rebecca now, you can hire her...." Trump replied "No, I'm over it."

Ouch! I wonder if Trump was swayed by her attractiveness and has now realized there wasn't much substance below that. And before I get flamed, I mean substance as in experience as a business executive. Rebecca is obviously smart and talented - she just lacks experience.

 

[Albertan mom]

Sandy, you can appreciate good tv better (ahem, men, ahem) then anyone I 'know'!!

 

[djm99]

I think the only one who acted bad in this finale was Trump. It was unfair to both Randal and Rebecca to be put on the spot like that. Randal was in "fight for the win" mode and you can't turn that off on the spot. Trump handled this VERY poorly!!

I agree...

I believe that Donald Trump:

1. Showed an incredible amount of disrespect to Randal, the other contestants, and the process by not allowing Randal even 30-seconds to savor his win.

2. Blind-sided and unfairly put Randal on the spot and in a "no-win" situation. When he said "no" everyone cries foul for the cute girl who worked while wearing a cast. Lest we not forget, Randal pushed through with the death of a grandmother. Saying "yes" immediately switches the focus from him to HER and the shared win.

I'm sorry I've broken bones and lost my grandmother there is no comparison.

3. Diminished Randal's win by asking him to SHARE the Apprentice title. It's not that Randal should have answered differently; he should never have been asked the question. Perhaps it would have been more appropriate for Trump to ask his NEW APPRENTICE, "So, Randal would YOU hire Rebecca to work for you in the Trump organization?"

Other questions that may have been more appropriate:

--Randal, who will be your first hire? I'd recommend Rebecca.

--Randal, do you think I should find a place for her in the Trump organization?

--Randal, don't you think that Rebecca was a great competitor? Wouldn't you like to have her as a part of your team?

Don't blame Randal for wanting to enjoy the WIN like the contestants before him. He earned it and deserved more respect than he was shown.

Bill wasn't asked to share with Kwame.
Kendra wasn't asked to share with Tana.

Why should Randal be expected to share with Rebecca?

I don't care how great she is. Trump was wrong and Randal does not deserve the backlash. And I don't care what anyone said, how is a journalist going to fit into the Trump organization.

I don't blame Rebecca fans for supporting her. I do blame them for attacking Randal's character and demonizing him.

 

[2funny2c]

Its almost like they are "judging" Randall. And everyone knows how wrong it is to judge.

These people have Randall being selfish and telling you his dead grandmother would have been ashamed.

Trump is to blame. He should have fired Rebecca back when she lost BADLY to Randall in the tech expo challenge and then refused to bring Toral in when Toral was the one who screwed up her part of the challenge. If Rebecca is SOOOO good at event planning then how did she screw up the Expo challenge?

Rebecca rode into the finals on Randall's coat tails. Randall was actually 4-0 because he was the defacto PM on the Microsoft task as well.

 

[Sandy22]

Sandy, you can appreciate good tv better (ahem, men, ahem) then anyone I 'know'!!

What? Who? Me? Noooo....

 

[2funny2c]

From an interview with Randall. Thats right, it was Trump's decision.

http://www.blackenterprise.com/exclusivesekopen.asp?id=1470&p=3

10. BE: Now that there has been some backlash from the White community about you denying Rebecca the opportunity to join you at the Trump organization, do you have any regrets on that decision?

PINKETT: I'm satisfied with the decision I made and I'm pleased with the arguments I presented. As I said last night, 'in a competition there is only one winner.' You wouldn't ask the gold medalist in the Olympics to share with the silver medalist. Unfortunately for those that wanted to see a double hiring or see Rebecca win, I ended up being the bearer of bad news. However, at the end of day all I did was give Mr. Trump my recommendation. It was ultimately his decision to not hire Rebecca.

 

[SRUAlmn]

The handshake and the hug.... what else was he suppose to do. Should he had kissed her - what? You said that no gesture is what is bothering you and others - the handshake and hug was gesture - nothing else could have been offered. So what is it - thats really bothering you.

In the words of my ole pal Charlie Brown, Good Grief! I said I missed it so that is what was really bothering me. Stop trying to make this into something that it's not!

 

[2funny2c]

In the words of my ole pal Charlie Brown, Good Grief! I said I missed it so that is what was really bothering me. Stop trying to make this into something that it's not!

Its almost like making Randall into something he's not just because he was put in a no win situation by Trump all for the sake of TV ratings.

 

[SRUAlmn]

Its almost like making Randall into something he's not just because he was put in a no win situation by Trump all for the sake of TV ratings.

So tell Donald Trump that because he is the one who put him in that situation. I don't understand why that has any relevance to what I said

 

[RyMickey]

From an interview with Randall. Thats right, it was Trump's decision.

http://www.blackenterprise.com/exclusivesekopen.asp?id=1470&p=3

10. BE: Now that there has been some backlash from the White community about you denying Rebecca the opportunity to join you at the Trump organization, do you have any regrets on that decision?

What got me with this quote was that the "white community" is causing a backlash. From my perspective, race is playing ZERO issue in my thinking that Rebecca should've won. And, personally, I'm rather insulted by that statement. [Who woulda thunk an Apprentice thread would gradually be turning into a thread about race?]

Trump is a character, that's for sure. You're perfectly right in saying that Randall shouldn't have had to share his prize, but he seemed callous in his answer. Nothing will change my opinion about that. I'm sure Randall's a good, nice guy, but he came off not looking so good last night -- whether that's Trump's fault or not.

 

[SRUAlmn]

What got me with this quote was that the "white community" is causing a backlash. From my perspective, race is playing ZERO issue in my thinking that Rebecca should've won. And, personally, I'm rather insulted by that statement. [Who woulda thunk an Apprentice thread would gradually be turning into a thread about race?]

ITA! That is what is really upsetting me too. The thought that our opinions could be misconstrued as being a racial issue are unfounded and unecessary.