Taking photos inside some rides

Lizziejane

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What's the protocal for taking pictures in rides such as POTC, TGMR, etc? Flash, no flash? I would have thought photos were not allowed at all but obviously that's not the case judging by lots of posts on the boards. Is it ok on certain rides, others not allowed?


Jane
 
The automated spiel or the cast members will usually mention "no flash" and "no movie lights". Even if they don't, consider how dark the ride is and decide if you would mind someone's flash going off in your direction. Some people still don't seem to care, making for an unpleasant ride.

Funny, the rules change and sometimes it seems it is up to the CM. For example, the rules for Carousel of Progress have been different for the last three times I have been there: no photos; no flash; no mention.

The aesthetic aspect is that Disney goes to a great deal of effort to light the rides, and a flash completely changes the look of the scene. We have all seen flash photos of POTC, and they don't look like the scene we see on the ride. Go flashless, it's better! :)

Very few rides totally forbid photography, I can't see much reason to do so. Just hang onto the camera real tight in Space Mountain! ;)
 
I agree with what's been said before - not only does the flash change the picture from what was intended, but in my opinion it is also distracting to others on the ride. Just last week I rode on POTC and a woman in the front of the boat was taking flash photos the entire ride, not realizing that when she was taking pictures of things behind her, the flash was going off in eveyone elses face!

My opinion, no flash! Make sure you have a fast lens, and your ISO is set a bit higher.
 
Oh my goodness. Please, Please do not use flash. In November we rode POTC for the first time since it'd been updated and there were some foreigners behind us that took like 4 flash pictures per every scene. I give them the benefit of the doubt because maybe they don't understand english and couldn't comprehend the instructions to not use flash photography, but it really ticked me off. It pretty much ruined the ride. I can't enjoy a ride when there's a bright flash going off all the time.
 

Thanks for the replies! This will be a great opportunity to see what this new camera can do!
 
Oh my goodness. Please, Please do not use flash. In November we rode POTC for the first time since it'd been updated and there were some foreigners behind us that took like 4 flash pictures per every scene. I give them the benefit of the doubt because maybe they don't understand english and couldn't comprehend the instructions to not use flash photography, but it really ticked me off. It pretty much ruined the ride. I can't enjoy a ride when there's a bright flash going off all the time.

No worries - no flash! I just wanted to be sure of what is acceptable/what isn't. I actually thought some of the rides would be no photos at all. And what really threw me off is that some pictures posted are incredible - hard to believe no flash!!
 
I'd ask before each ride if they don't say. I was rather surprised that they started allowing flash on ITSW. I was also surprised that they wouldn't allow any pictures on Carousel of Progress.
 
Thanks for the replies! This will be a great opportunity to see what this new camera can do!

Lizzie, I saw from a previous post you have a new XTi? If that's the case, and you are wanting some "dark ride" pics, make sure you have a fast lens and set the ISO higher. The pictures below were taken at F3.5 (didn't have anything faster with me on this ride!), with an ISO of 3200. The shutter speed was 1/50 and 1/60, respectively - not quite enough to reduce camera shake / boat movement, but pretty close. I did use Noise Ninja (noise removal software) to get rid of some of the grain.

Have fun!

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I had no luck getting flash-less pics in POTC w/ my xti using ISO 1600 and my 50/1.8 lens set to 1.8. The shutter speeds were just too long. I deleted the pics, so I don't have exif data, but I'd say 1/5 of a sec or so? Long enough to give motion trails.

I was shooting Av. Maybe I should have shot Tv and just had them been underexposed and tried to fix in post?
 
POTC is quite a bit darker than IASM, and some of the scenes have some "performers" that move faster in the dark environment, so I can see why there would be a problem. An additional thought is to take in RAW - which should give a bit more latitude in PP with exposure. Just a thought - haven't tried it myself so I can't comment on effectiveness.
 
I was told to turn off my flash in POTC. I think that the CM is referring to the viewfinder display on my camera. I was taking pictures in POTC without flash and they didn't turn out that great otherwise they were blurry. I went on ITASW and the pictures all turned out. I have gotten a new camera since and hope that on my next trip i can get better pictures.
 
I was told to turn off my flash in POTC. I think that the CM is referring to the viewfinder display on my camera. I was taking pictures in POTC without flash and they didn't turn out that great otherwise they were blurry. I went on ITASW and the pictures all turned out. I have gotten a new camera since and hope that on my next trip i can get better pictures.

PotC stretched my current capabilities as a photographer. I could get no shots I was satisfied with and most were total ^#*%. IASW photos came out much better. I was happy with ay least one.

I was using a Canon 30D with the kit lens, BTW. Next time, fast ISO (3200), wide open lens.
 
"Pirates" is difficult, at least half of my photos are not worth keeping. I have used a 50mm f/1.8, 24-105 f/4 IS, 10-22 f/3.5-4.5, and 16 f/2.8. The ones from the 10-22 look the best, except for the time the boat stopped a lot and I could get some clear shots.

If "Pirates" is difficult, "Peter Pan" is darn near impossible! I have no decent photos from inside that ride. I can hardly ever get the camera to even focus on anything.
But I'll keep trying! :)
 
Well, I think I"ll just leave the camera in the case and enjoy POTC without worrying about taking pictures! I have a feeling I'd spend the entire ride working like crazy to get a decent shot (and likely never would!). It's been so long since we were there I really couldn't recall what the light (or lack thereof) is really like.

Thanks again folks - you have saved me from myself ;)
 
How about this - not only should you not use flash, you should turn off the image review feature! My standard procedure when I was getting on any ride, bright or dark, where I was planning to take a photo, was to turn off the image review completely, and try to set any settings that needed, err, setting, so I didn't need to fiddle on the ride.

PnS users, also, please turn off all your "noises" - your camera can work more or less silently, so set it that way when you're at WDW. The worst, of course, are the folks who, on rides like Pirates, hold their camera up high so their bright LCD is distracting, then take a photo with red-eye reduction, so there are a whole series of flashes for every photo they take. It's incredibly distracting and frustrating.

But the bright LCDs can really be an annoyance, too, which is why I turn off the image review.

Focusing can be a big problem, which is why I often used my Zenitar fisheye - everything past 2.3 feet is in focus, and it's reasonably fast (2.8), and the wide field of view means that you can pretty much point it in the general direction and it'll grab what you were looking for. In retrospect, I should have used my Sigma 28mm 2.8 as well, the infinity focus is around 12 ft which is still probably enough for many rides, but it doesn't need to have the exposure set manually like the Zenitar does.

I didn't even attempt Pirates, Haunted Mansion, or Peter Pan... maybe on a future trip. If I do, 1600ISO (or even 3200 maybe) and my 50mm at F1.4! (Or another fast lens - I'm intrigued by something like a 28mm 1.8 or 16mm 1.8 that I see are available... too bad they're pricey!) And if Pirates seems darker, it should - my understanding is that the lights were lowered after the rehab. Not only that, but the light levels have changed other times, as well. When we went in 2003, I noticed that the light levels were distractingly high in Pirates and HM - you could easily see the ceiling tiles in Pirates and the scrims in the graveyard scene in HM. As Disneyland in 05, I noticed lower light levels and wondered if it was a DL vs WDW thing. When we went a year ago (before the Pirates rehab), the lights at WDW were lower again and the ride was better for it. I asked our guide on the Keys to the Kingdom tour and she said that they had experimented with higher light levels as a possible safety thing, hence the brighter lights in 2003, but later decided that it wasn't actually affecting safety.

So, I guess 2003 was the time to take the flashless Pirates and HM on-ride photos!

As for Carousel of Progress - we were told no photography of any kind when we went on it, so I just shut mine down. Oh well...
 
I was using a Canon 30D with the kit lens, BTW. Next time, fast ISO (3200), wide open lens.

The xti's max ISO is 1600 :( Oh well. No Johnny Dep for me.

I had also tried Haunted Mansion with no luck. Small World I was able to get no problem.
 
The xti's max ISO is 1600
My experience with ISO 3200 on Canon cameras is that it looks about the same as shooting RAW at ISO 1600, underexposing, and then boosting the exposure in post production. You're not missing much.

But the bright LCDs can really be an annoyance, too, which is why I turn off the image review.
It's particularly important to turn off image review when taking pictures on rides where photography is not allowed. I see a lot of people get in trouble for forgetting to do that.

Any idea what the logic is for when you can and can't take pictures? For flash it's pretty obvious - when it will bother other guests or performers. But why can you take pictures at FotLK and not a the Nemo show? They say that it is for the safety of the performers, but I don't understand the difference.

Why can't you take pictures on the Carousel of Progress anymore? Are they trying to keep down the number of public images while they prepare for the movie version?
 
Any idea what the logic is for when you can and can't take pictures? For flash it's pretty obvious - when it will bother other guests or performers. But why can you take pictures at FotLK and not a the Nemo show? They say that it is for the safety of the performers, but I don't understand the difference.

Why can't you take pictures on the Carousel of Progress anymore? Are they trying to keep down the number of public images while they prepare for the movie version?
The Carousel one is a mystery. I can't imagine why those are forbidden.

Nemo is probably because it's a new show, and a very fancy Broadway-style one - and you can't take pictures at the Lion King Broadway show, either. But I would guess that it's mostly because it's new and they don't want people downloading poor-quality videos of it off the internet.

Curiously enough, the Little Mermaid show, in the pre-show spiel, made it very clear that you could take photos or video, as long as there was no flash or video lighting (this was repeated a few times to really drive the point home, which makes sense if you've seen the show), in fact the spiel even said that "if you have a video camera with no lighting or a camera with fast film you're OK" - I was amused to see a reference to fast film in a spiel. :)
 
Several people have mentioned lcd's, but what about AF assist lights? I used to try to take a few flashless pictures in dark rides, but then I realized that the AF assist light on my camera might bother people.
 
Several people have mentioned lcd's, but what about AF assist lights? I used to try to take a few flashless pictures in dark rides, but then I realized that the AF assist light on my camera might bother people.

Excellent Point. I almost always forget about the AF assist light. I should just shut it off and get used to not using it in general. See how things work without it.
 


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