Some sad news for fellow Michiganders

I was wondering why the city of Detroit wouldn't turn the management over to the zoological society too. Why close it instead?

This makes me worry a bit about the Dallas Zoo. Everyone bashes it (and rightfully so in some ways) but it's biggest problem is a lack of funding. I keep hoping that funds will materialize and that someone will fix it up. I guess that the Detroit Zoo is having some of the same problems.
 
Planogirl said:
I was wondering why the city of Detroit wouldn't turn the management over to the zoological society too. Why close it instead?

This makes me worry a bit about the Dallas Zoo. Everyone bashes it (and rightfully so in some ways) but it's biggest problem is a lack of funding. I keep hoping that funds will materialize and that someone will fix it up. I guess that the Detroit Zoo is having some of the same problems.


It is all about power. They want other people to fund it, but they still want to have control over it. Mostly just because other people want it.

I feel it is rather immature. If we can't have it, (and we don't really want it, we are only interested in it because you are.) then no one can have it and we will just close it. I say if you care for it that much, you shouldn't be able to have it. :mad:

Now they are playing the race card.

Many zoos are privately funded now a days.
 
I was wondering why the city of Detroit wouldn't turn the management over to the zoological society too. Why close it instead?
Why.... Amazingly, a lot of it has to do with racial politics:
(City Councilwoman) Collins and her colleagues defended their vote against the rescue plan, saying it was given to them Friday at 4:45 p.m. -- too late to properly debate, they said. In a move rare in city history, the council held a special session Saturday until 1 a.m. Sunday to debate the proposal before voting 7-2 against it; with Council President Kenneth Cockrel and Councilwoman Sheila Cockrel voting in favor.

The vote was rushed because of a deadline set by state officials that required approval by Sunday in order for the zoo to receive a $4 million state grant.

Oakland County Executive L. Brooks Patterson said the zoo cries out for regional management, and he was highly critical of the council's vote.

"They'd rather close the zoo than share its management with the region," Patterson said. "And shame on them for that point of view."

The zoo is in Royal Oak, in south Oakland County.

The deal would have handed over management and control to the society, though the city would maintain ownership.

"It was a really solid plan that would have allowed the zoo to survive, and it would have relieved the city of the vast majority of its expenses to run it," said zoo Director Ron Kagen.

Collins said the state deadline amounted to unfair pressure by small-town legislators on the city to relinquish control of the zoo. She and other council members were angered by numerous calls and e-mails made to their offices by suburbanites critical of the council's vote. Some of the council members took the e-mails as veiled racism.

"This is not a plantation," Collins said. "We are not owned by everyone else. Black folks are not owned by white folks anymore. I made the point Saturday that the state Legislature was pimping the City of Detroit, and that we should not play the role of prostitute. That upset a lot of people, but I stand by my words. The symbolism is that Detroit is a black city, and we're not able to govern ourselves. It's a racist attitude and I resent it."

Collins said she thought the council would meet with the society and Kilpatrick when the mayor gets back from Africa, where he is on a fact-finding trip with his mother, Congresswoman Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, and other members of Congress. But no set plans for meetings or hearings had been made by Monday evening.

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Meanwhile, Detroit shows little sign of reversing the trend of trying to pull the rest of the region and state around with it as it circles the financial and economic porcelain bowl.
 
It is not for sure. It's a mess. I feel sick about it. We do go to Toledo usually.
 

It would be such a shame to see the zoo close :(
 
Geoff_M said:
Why.... Amazingly, a lot of it has to do with racial politics:Meanwhile, Detroit shows little sign of reversing the trend of trying to pull the rest of the region and state around with it as it circles the financial and economic porcelain bowl.

You have much nicer wording for the city of Detroit....I usually just refer to it as the cesspool of MI.

Glad to hear today on the news that attempts are being made to save the Zoo though. Very sweet seeing all the children bringing their little piggie banks over to the zoo to donate their money!

On another note, didn't the city make something like $395 million dollars hosting the superbowl? Couldn't some of that money be used to help the Zoo or is Kuame using that money to vacation in Africa? Maybe more SUV's for his family members or wild parties where his wife gets physically agressive with the strippers or prostitutes? Hmmm..... :rolleyes:
 
On another note, didn't the city make something like $395 million dollars hosting the superbowl?
No, I'm sure that number represents the "total economic impact" of the game... Hotel revenues, restaurant sales, bar tabs, taxi fares, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if, on paper, the city itself lost money on the games due to added police overtime, mayor's parties, etc. The theory is that it's made up in terms of added tax revenues.
 
Geoff_M said:
No, I'm sure that number represents the "total economic impact" of the game... Hotel revenues, restaurant sales, bar tabs, taxi fares, etc. It wouldn't surprise me if, on paper, the city itself lost money on the games due to added police overtime, mayor's parties, etc. The theory is that it's made up in terms of added tax revenues.

Yes, you're probably right. I was thinking that the City got this huge boost of income but you're right about having to add police overtime & yes, Kuame's parties, etc.... They even had police & sharp shooters from the suburbs down there working. Oh well....
 
Well I know as soon as I start Nursing we are getting the he** out of dodge and moving to Washtenaw county .... Jeeze... I feel sorry for people who live in the city and have to put up with all those better-than-thou political crap from that %*$*# council and mayoral ppl... :rolleyes:

What's next the DIA?? :rolleyes:
 
Geoff_M said:
Why.... Amazingly, a lot of it has to do with racial politics:Meanwhile, Detroit shows little sign of reversing the trend of trying to pull the rest of the region and state around with it as it circles the financial and economic porcelain bowl.


OMG.... No... they are just too proud to admit that they made a huge mistake so now they are blaming anyone they can for there sh%(^y state of affairs... Pulling out the race card. ...SHAME ON YOU DETROIT CITY GOVERNMENT!!!!! :furious:
 
I can't believe that they're trying to turn this into a racial issue. Goodness, people are obviously just trying to save the zoo! Zoos are important and I hope that the area citizens somehow get this resolved. I hope that they remember this nonsense at election time too.
 
Wow, I had no idea they were planning on closing the Detroit Zoo! I guess it just goes to show how sheltered life in the UP can be! That's just so sad. I haven't been to the zoo in a long time, so I don't really remember it that well.
 












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